Time To Change Your Paradigm
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What do you mean by professionally, when someone rules out all Science, Engineering, Physics and says point blank that the Earth is Flat, flashes a few quotes from known dodgy characters, and dodgy poor videos and pictures, not even having the humility to say that they might be wrong.
You know very well what I mean. Please show me that Pazuzu ruled out Science, Engineering, Physics?
I see here a kind of hatred towards Science and anything that does not conform with an idea someone has settled for into themselves.
I dont see that. What I see is a thread and it is subject to further discussion like all other thread.
If you want humility, then demonstrate some too, it's not just a one way process, I am right, to hell with you so to speak, this is what I get from Flat or Concave Earthers and other conspiracy nuts, who don't even have the credentials of basic knowledge.
What are you talking about?
Didn't Allah say that above each one knowledgeable, there is always one with more knowledge.
This is just a thread where people discuss on certain issue. I dont see anything that is against the ALLAH's law?
I appeal to humility, being humble, not arrogant like Satan.
What has Pazuzu done that makes him arrogant like Satan. You making accusation. Is this not the work of Satan???
As I said, Science uses models to explain things, they are not perfect, but they work, if you get a better model, then we use it, but usually, older models do not get put in the bin unless it is really necessary.
On global matters, it is speculation, Flat, Round, Concave, I have ultimately no idea, what I know is that within the model Science community has settled with, the Earth is round, there are planets, the universe is expanding, and it is hypothesised it started with a Big Bang, right or wrong, I personally don't care, I am more bothered with not getting barbecued in Hell, and the Quran is enough to try and avoid that.
Now if I had the means, I would verify this for myself in a big way, and if Allah allows me, I would.
Than show.....I am more than willing to see what you have
End of comms.
I taught you have already call it a day?
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Peace,
You know for someone who uses the nick of Hezbollah, did you ask permission from the group, or are you an official member, LOL!I respected pazuzu with his work on Yemen which I accepted, so it is a deep shock to me to see him taking on the Flat Earthers concept, because it puts all his effort on Yemen in jeopardy.
I feel for this because I have been advertising his essays on twitter on the matter, and arguing for what he wrote.
There is no way I will do such a thing with Flat Earth because I deeply disagree with it.
I do not act as a groupie to someone, I act on what I figured out for myself, Flat Earth is not convincing to me, and it is too much ridiculed to start evangelising for it, whereas there are more important matters to deal with now on Earth, flat, concave or round.
Waste your time away discussing Flat Earth, and encouraging others believing it, I am not one of them.
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Salam
LOL!
Yet you rely on technology to post on the Internet? you don't seem to trust Allah enough to convey your messages more directly, like with thoughts?
Where do you live? do you use some means of transportation, or is it the good trusted donkey, mule, camel or horse?
getting your water from a lake, or is it tap or bottled water?
I can carry on...
Causes will be discontinued for newer ones on the other side, this side is a world of causes and effects.I trust that Allah is in control of all this show right now, and if you have brains, those too!
I really, really, get angry, and it could be said I HATE people who tell people not to get medical help when they are sick and "rely on Allah" when in many cases THAT IS THE HELP OF ALLAH, medicine, technology, FOOD, all of these things are from Allah and help people, why do people think some gifts are not from Allah? Allah took credit for the ships on the sea, for the chainmail armor, where do you think these ideas come from? You think humans can do anything? Allah produces anything that can exist, and what Allah doesn't DO and doesn't say BE to does not exist at all and can not exist.
So when people become sick, it is so disgusting and foolish when they reject medicine, asking instead for miracles like how they asked Jesus to bring down a tablespread of food from the sky instead of just eating, or how the Jews asked for more than the Manna when they could just travel down and get the onions they wanted.
Despicable people, curses on you!
ALL THAT IS GOOD IN THE WORLD, AND ALL THAT IS BAD, BELONGS TO ALLAH, AND THE TRUTH AND THE FALSEHOOD IS BOTH ALLAH'S, AND WHAT ALL CAN MAKE TRUE ALLAH CAN MAKE FALSE AND WHAT ALLAH CAN MAKE FALSE ALLAH CAN MAKE TRUE (Moses staff into a snake and back into a staff again).
This debate is ultimately irrelevant except to broadcast the problems in some of your beliefs, where you reject some of the gifts of Allah (SCIENCE, TECHNOLOGY, etc) and think that only some gifts are acceptable, in truth it is Allah who is making your thinking ill, and taking away the use of some things from you in the manner of the Jews making false rules imposed on themselves and making things more difficult.
Rejecting medicine when you're sick and letting sickness harm you more is just arrogance and stupidity when Allah is the one who created food and medicine and chemicals and all that stuff.
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You wouldn't get an argument on this from me, I concur. Allah is King in the Skies and on the Earths.
A good explicit example is Dhu AlQarnain, where Allah took care to say explicitly that he followed causality in his journeys
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You wouldn't get an argument on this from me, I concur. Allah is King in the Skies and on the Earths.
A good explicit example is Dhu AlQarnain, where Allah took care to say explicitly that he followed causality in his journeys
.Yeah, Dhu AlQarnain is a cool character and I really like that story! Can you explain more about the causality thing?
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Nothing more than what you can find out yourself, too lazy and tired at the moment
Allah says that causality will be discontinued for the ones who die, as if they will realise the BS they were previously in, which was not worth aught.
.It's sababa, not sab, for some reason the a got deleted.
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Nothing more than what you can find out yourself, too lazy and tired at the moment
Allah says that causality will be discontinued for the ones who die, as if they will realise the BS they were previously in, which was not worth aught.
.What should I type into google search?
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@FreedomStands
LOL!
You're lazier than me...
no, read the Quran, it's all there.
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@FreedomStands
LOL!
You're lazier than me...
no, read the Quran, it's all there.
Can you read Arabic?No, not yet! I hope to someday! I go to some websites and study the root meanings and things even of the Akkadian language and I enjoy that lots, I love languages, but I haven't learned Arabic or Qur'anic Arabic and English is the only language I speak relatively fluently. I wish I could speak all languages, that would be so cool!
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I guess we're all late, because when this was first posted it was "Time To Change" our "Paradigms". Oh I'll give you one quick shift, I like to say "Payra dig'ms" sometimes just for fun.
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I like this. Maybe this can be a good reminder for me.
Thanks, brother Khan.
Salaam JL,
Thank you handshake
Salam brother mmkhan and all,
I concur with brother mmkhan.
Salaam Hizbullah,
Thank you brother handshake
May Allah increase our knowledge and guide us on His path pr
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Salam
LOL!
Yet you rely on technology to post on the Internet? you don't seem to trust Allah enough to convey your messages more directly, like with thoughts?
Where do you live? do you use some means of transportation, or is it the good trusted donkey, mule, camel or horse?
getting your water from a lake, or is it tap or bottled water?
I can carry on...
Causes will be discontinued for newer ones on the other side, this side is a world of causes and effects.Salaam brother,
You didn't understand what that tawakkal thread means.
And you missed the point and came up with this reply which have nothing to do with tawakkal or what we were discussing.
Technology and advancement is something very different than relying on Allah alone.Anyways, please be on your own and I will be on mine. You are not going to answer for what I do and I am free from what you do. Our Lord is the best judge 1041]. No point in dragging it further.
May Allah increase our knowledge and guide us on His path pr
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Salaam brother,
You didn't understand what that tawakkal thread means.
And you missed the point and came up with this reply which have nothing to do with tawakkal or what we were discussing.
Technology and advancement is something very different than relying on Allah alone.Anyways, please be on your own and I will be on mine. You are not going to answer for what I do and I am free from what you do. Our Lord is the best judge 1041]. No point in dragging it further.
May Allah increase our knowledge and guide us on His path pr
mmKhanI made a thread you can play with me in, in the trash, if you feel up to it, I asked some questions in the hello thread and you can reply to them in the I command thee thread in the trash if you want to.
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Peace brother,
I don't like trash sorry
Where would you prefer I post? Maybe Off-Topic?
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Peace bro,
No no I think trash is a perfect place >
Haha, I think so too! I posted for you in Off-Topic as well though so at least your ideas aren't in the trash along with mine. It will be a nice opportunity for you to share your good teachings!
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Haha, I think so too! I posted for you in Off-Topic as well though so at least your ideas aren't in the trash along with mine. It will be a nice opportunity for you to share your good teachings!
There are several types of people on this Earth, but those I dislike the most are the fatalists who believe everything is already pre-ordained, so why bother.
In my view they failed the test of faith, which is about doing as good as one can, and praying for the best, or vice versa,
but never just relying on things being done for them, this is lazy, and in fact ungodly.
Miracles do not happen for those with such attitudes, apart from the obvious miracle of their lives of course which is available to all living beings, be they animals, Angels, Humans or Jinns.