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Time To Change Your Paradigm

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    FreedomStands
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    Salam
    LOL!
    Yet you rely on technology to post on the Internet? you don't seem to trust Allah enough to convey your messages more directly, like with thoughts?
    Where do you live? do you use some means of transportation, or is it the good trusted donkey, mule, camel or horse?
    getting your water from a lake, or is it tap or bottled water?
    I can carry on...
    Causes will be discontinued for newer ones on the other side, this side is a world of causes and effects.

    I trust that Allah is in control of all this show right now, and if you have brains, those too!

    I really, really, get angry, and it could be said I HATE people who tell people not to get medical help when they are sick and "rely on Allah" when in many cases THAT IS THE HELP OF ALLAH, medicine, technology, FOOD, all of these things are from Allah and help people, why do people think some gifts are not from Allah? Allah took credit for the ships on the sea, for the chainmail armor, where do you think these ideas come from? You think humans can do anything? Allah produces anything that can exist, and what Allah doesn't DO and doesn't say BE to does not exist at all and can not exist.

    So when people become sick, it is so disgusting and foolish when they reject medicine, asking instead for miracles like how they asked Jesus to bring down a tablespread of food from the sky instead of just eating, or how the Jews asked for more than the Manna when they could just travel down and get the onions they wanted.

    Despicable people, curses on you!

    ALL THAT IS GOOD IN THE WORLD, AND ALL THAT IS BAD, BELONGS TO ALLAH, AND THE TRUTH AND THE FALSEHOOD IS BOTH ALLAH'S, AND WHAT ALL CAN MAKE TRUE ALLAH CAN MAKE FALSE AND WHAT ALLAH CAN MAKE FALSE ALLAH CAN MAKE TRUE (Moses staff into a snake and back into a staff again).

    This debate is ultimately irrelevant except to broadcast the problems in some of your beliefs, where you reject some of the gifts of Allah (SCIENCE, TECHNOLOGY, etc) and think that only some gifts are acceptable, in truth it is Allah who is making your thinking ill, and taking away the use of some things from you in the manner of the Jews making false rules imposed on themselves and making things more difficult.

    Rejecting medicine when you're sick and letting sickness harm you more is just arrogance and stupidity when Allah is the one who created food and medicine and chemicals and all that stuff.

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      noble
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      @FreedomStands

      You wouldn't get an argument on this from me, I concur. Allah is King in the Skies and on the Earths.

      A good explicit example is Dhu AlQarnain, where Allah took care to say explicitly that he followed causality in his journeys
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        @FreedomStands

        You wouldn't get an argument on this from me, I concur. Allah is King in the Skies and on the Earths.

        A good explicit example is Dhu AlQarnain, where Allah took care to say explicitly that he followed causality in his journeys
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        Yeah, Dhu AlQarnain is a cool character and I really like that story! Can you explain more about the causality thing?

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          noble
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          Nothing more than what you can find out yourself, too lazy and tired at the moment 😉
          Allah says that causality will be discontinued for the ones who die, as if they will realise the BS they were previously in, which was not worth aught.
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          It's sababa, not sab, for some reason the a got deleted.

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            FreedomStands
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            Nothing more than what you can find out yourself, too lazy and tired at the moment 😉
            Allah says that causality will be discontinued for the ones who die, as if they will realise the BS they were previously in, which was not worth aught.
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            What should I type into google search?

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              noble
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              @FreedomStands
              LOL!
              You're lazier than me...
              no, read the Quran, it's all there.
              Can you read Arabic?

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                FreedomStands
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                @FreedomStands
                LOL!
                You're lazier than me...
                no, read the Quran, it's all there.
                Can you read Arabic?

                No, not yet! I hope to someday! I go to some websites and study the root meanings and things even of the Akkadian language and I enjoy that lots, I love languages, but I haven't learned Arabic or Qur'anic Arabic and English is the only language I speak relatively fluently. I wish I could speak all languages, that would be so cool!

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                  FreedomStands
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                  I guess we're all late, because when this was first posted it was "Time To Change" our "Paradigms". Oh I'll give you one quick shift, I like to say "Payra dig'ms" sometimes just for fun.

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                    noble
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                    Anyway, translation of Inqita3 bil asbab is severance with causality, or causality severance.

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                      mmkhan
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                      I like this. Maybe this can be a good reminder for me.

                      Thanks, brother Khan.

                      Salaam JL,

                      Thank you handshake

                      Salam brother mmkhan and all,

                      I concur with brother mmkhan.

                      Salaam Hizbullah,

                      Thank you brother handshake

                      May Allah increase our knowledge and guide us on His path pr
                      mmKhan

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                        mmkhan
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                        Salam
                        LOL!
                        Yet you rely on technology to post on the Internet? you don't seem to trust Allah enough to convey your messages more directly, like with thoughts?
                        Where do you live? do you use some means of transportation, or is it the good trusted donkey, mule, camel or horse?
                        getting your water from a lake, or is it tap or bottled water?
                        I can carry on...
                        Causes will be discontinued for newer ones on the other side, this side is a world of causes and effects.

                        Salaam brother,

                        You didn't understand what that tawakkal thread means.
                        And you missed the point and came up with this reply which have nothing to do with tawakkal or what we were discussing.
                        Technology and advancement is something very different than relying on Allah alone.

                        Anyways, please be on your own and I will be on mine. You are not going to answer for what I do and I am free from what you do. Our Lord is the best judge 1041]. No point in dragging it further.

                        May Allah increase our knowledge and guide us on His path pr
                        mmKhan

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                          FreedomStands
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                          Salaam brother,

                          You didn't understand what that tawakkal thread means.
                          And you missed the point and came up with this reply which have nothing to do with tawakkal or what we were discussing.
                          Technology and advancement is something very different than relying on Allah alone.

                          Anyways, please be on your own and I will be on mine. You are not going to answer for what I do and I am free from what you do. Our Lord is the best judge 1041]. No point in dragging it further.

                          May Allah increase our knowledge and guide us on His path pr
                          mmKhan

                          I made a thread you can play with me in, in the trash, if you feel up to it, I asked some questions in the hello thread and you can reply to them in the I command thee thread in the trash if you want to.

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                            mmkhan
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                            I made a thread you can play with me in, in the trash, if you feel up to it, I asked some questions in the hello thread and you can reply to them in the I command thee thread in the trash if you want to.

                            Peace brother,

                            I don't like trash sorry

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                              noble
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                              Sorry Bro mmkhan,

                              You are correct, I don't understand what you are on about, so let's keep out of one another's hair, OKI?

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                                FreedomStands
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                                Peace brother,

                                I don't like trash sorry

                                Where would you prefer I post? Maybe Off-Topic?

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                                  mmkhan
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                                  Where would you prefer I post? Maybe Off-Topic?

                                  Peace bro,

                                  No no I think trash is a perfect place >

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                                    FreedomStands
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                                    Peace bro,

                                    No no I think trash is a perfect place >

                                    Haha, I think so too! I posted for you in Off-Topic as well though so at least your ideas aren't in the trash along with mine. It will be a nice opportunity for you to share your good teachings!

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                                      Haha, I think so too! I posted for you in Off-Topic as well though so at least your ideas aren't in the trash along with mine. It will be a nice opportunity for you to share your good teachings!

                                      There are several types of people on this Earth, but those I dislike the most are the fatalists who believe everything is already pre-ordained, so why bother.

                                      In my view they failed the test of faith, which is about doing as good as one can, and praying for the best, or vice versa,

                                      but never just relying on things being done for them, this is lazy, and in fact ungodly.

                                      Miracles do not happen for those with such attitudes, apart from the obvious miracle of their lives of course which is available to all living beings, be they animals, Angels, Humans or Jinns.

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                                        There are several types of people on this Earth, but those I dislike the most are the fatalists who believe everything is already pre-ordained, so why bother.

                                        In my view they failed the test of faith, which is about doing as good as one can, and praying for the best, or vice versa,

                                        but never just relying on things being done for them, this is lazy, and in fact ungodly.

                                        Miracles do not happen for those with such attitudes, apart from the obvious miracle of their lives of course which is available to all living beings, be they animals, Angels, Humans or Jinns.

                                        I agree and wrote you a nice speech about it but my browser crashed and I lost it all so here

                                        https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2nZKx-UeZQ

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                                          noble
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                                          @FreedomStands

                                          It's OK, not my kind of music I am afraid lol!

                                          This is not a song, this is about reality, vs. fallacy.
                                          and btw, dreaming is good, even Joseph (P) could decipher dreams 😉

                                          but I don't like nightmares, especially the human imposed ones ( by mobs who think they know better, like Daesh.

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