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Deuterium - A reminder of creation

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    yellowdog8272
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    We theorized how the Big Bang happened but where did the Big Bang come from? Where did the atoms come from in the first place? Nobody knows but I think it is the most interesting question. What do you think exists outside the universe? Other parallel universes/multiverse? A Black Hole (Maybe we are inside a black hole ourselves)? Nothing but void?

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      runninglikezebras
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      @

      The answer to your question can be found in the first line of the original post.

      The abundance of deuterium

      We know what the abundance of deuterium is today. We can figure out from the data in our laboratory different mechanisms that could give rise to deuterium back in that early time one second to a 1000 seconds. So they calculated what the abundance of deuterium had to be right after the big bang.

      Here you have the world of particles, the extreme smallness of our world linking up to the beginning of our universe, the biggest thing in our world. These two extremes have linked hands.

      Deuterium does get destroyed in stars etc. The abundance of deuterium had to be a a bit higher than 2 atoms for every 10.000 hydrogen atoms at that early stage. They calculated 3.5 deuterium atoms per 10 000 hydrogen.

      A check on the big bang

      They started looking at an old hydrogen cloud. Old meaning, far away. Far away is old. If we see a hydrogen cloud that is 10 billion lightyears away; we are seeing the light as it was 10 billion lightyears ago. When you look at the cosmos, you look at the past.

      So they found a cloud that is 14 billion lightyears away. They wanted to check what the abundance of deuterium was 14 billion years ago. Luckily there was a quasar (a very bright object) behind the old hydrogen cloud. The light of the quasar was shining through the hydrogen cloud. What did they see?

      Well, that light excited some hydrogen atoms and those hydrogen atoms gave of those famous four lines. But not only the four lines, it also gave of a little lower frequency. The wavelength of deuterium. The spectral lines of deuterium. From the intensity of those spectral lines, they could measure the abundance of deuterium as 1.9-2.5 deuterium per 10.000 hydrogen.

      The results show us the abundance of deuterium hydrogen 14 billion years ago. It offers the most rigid check on big bang cosmology.

      And of everything (the universe) We have created pairs (deuterium, the most simple pair of a proton and neutron) that you may be mindful (deuterium can only be created in the early time of big bang and is still present even in our water).

      Peace

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        noble
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        Peace @runninglikezebras

        this I can understand, based on experimentation, Mathematics and good reasoning,

        not conspiracies theories such as Flat/Concave Earth, a glass ceiling, a flash light bulb and a moon prism
        (sorry for the dig, but I am still sore at pazuzu, after giving us a great rendering of South West Arabia, joining the Flat Earther esoteric group)

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          noble
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          Peace @runninglikezebras

          oh, and I will take the liberty to post your thread to twitter and my facebook page )

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            runninglikezebras
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            Ty theNabster,

            I hope these posts will contribute to those trying to find a valid understanding of the creation in pairs Quran is talking about.

            In a next thread I will touch the topic of the transparent universe, that early stage when light was not seperated from matter. I still have a lot of research to do before I can start that one.

            Concerning pazuzu's theory on South West Arabia it's basically Kamal Salibi's theory. I don't think there is much truth in it. But everyone should judge for themselves.

            Peace

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              noble
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              Peace

              I replied with a very long post, and it got bleeming deleted, wth?

              anyway, the summary, simple, is

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                runninglikezebras
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                If you like youtube here is a series of counterevidence on Arabian Judaea

                https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxOhfjOn3Us
                https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqy7VkxkWRg
                https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=gD-ILQcCV-g

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                  noble
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                  Peace, thanks...

                  I might have a look, though I prefer reading, as I don't have to focus as much, due to my being bipolar and other stuff, I can't stand watching moving pictures for too long, it gives me migraines too.

                  That's why twitter is a God send for me, it allows me to express myself in snippets -)

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                    FreedomStands
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                    Peace, thanks...

                    I might have a look, though I prefer reading, as I don't have to focus as much, due to my being bipolar and other stuff, I can't stand watching moving pictures for too long, it gives me migraines too.

                    That's why twitter is a God send for me, it allows me to express myself in snippets -)

                    I hear that bipolar is rare in males, what is the experience of having it like?

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                      noble
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                      Never knowing how you're going to feel or react from one minute to the next, though this is my flavour, called ultradian rapid cycler.

                      and it messes up your hormonal balance pretty badly, especially the adrenaline/norepinephrine balance.

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                        noble
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                        I hear that bipolar is rare in males, what is the experience of having it like?

                        and there is also the paranoia, like my latest is that pazuzu is a CIA operative sowing confusion among the Quran Allah Only community... >D

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                          FreedomStands
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                          and there is also the paranoia, like my latest is that pazuzu is a CIA operative sowing confusion among the Quran Allah Only community... >

                          Haha this community kind of seemed to suck anyway, but I've been here only recently, compared to 2003 and stuff.

                          I mean their name is Pazuzu and they have a picture of what was thought to be an image of the demon from the Exorcist Film (the character Pazuzu).

                          Even if they aren't being paid by the CIA, we are always working.

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                            runninglikezebras
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                            Don't you agree the big picture is quite beautiful?

                            The simplest pair one neutron, one proton.

                            The heavy form of this pair dates back to within 1000 seconds of initial big bang.

                            Hydrogen is all around us. Lighting up the stars. Allowing plants to grow.

                            In our water, in our bodies we find deuterium. A heavy form of the ordinary hydrogen.

                            When you look at the stars, you look at your own past. Not your past that started with birth. But the past that shaped this entire universe in such a delicate and intricate way (hydrogen/helium balance) that cellular life becomes possible.

                            If this balance of helium and hydrogen was even slightly different. The whole universe wouldn't be possible. Life wouldn't be possible. We wouldn't exist.

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                            a picture of the pair

                            http//www.nasa.gov/images/content/154621main_fuse_3_250px.jpg

                            *This picture is not an exact representation of the position of the electron which is in reality immensely far removed from the nucleus, yet kept in place by forces. But thats a whole different story...

                            Peace

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                              noble
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                              As a Scientist and someone who loves poetic imagery, I concur, it is very beautiful and intricately mind boggling,

                              yet some prefer simpler models, like flat earth, ether, glass ceiling, ice rim, lamp, and moon as a metallic prism (

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                                runninglikezebras
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                                This image illustrates rather well how everything was made from the pairs we know as deuterium - a process called nucleosynthesis

                                http//i.imgur.com/XwHCG01.png

                                The Quranic description can thus be taken quite literally.

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