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    agphys
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    I think that only Allah Who can truly help you, so, why not focus on seeking help unto Allah alone?

    And also, be careful about oath, I don't think it is good to make oath without enough consideration (sufficient thought).

    If you still not able to maintain your oath, then perhaps it is better if what you do is making commitment - without oath/promise/pledge.

    And also, if I'm not mistaken...

    Didn't you already married to her??

    Can you be trusted, agphys?

    Whether you really tell the truth about yourself?

    Well, the thing is we did but thats what i thought because we did it the wrong way firstly and then we said that its better to break this and just have a normal relationship. I felt like the girl from runaway bride you know.

    But after ramadan ill be honest and marry her with 2 witnessed, if she agrees/doesnt agree then may God forgive us for our sins

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      FreedomStands
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      I think that only Allah Who can truly help you, so, why not focus on seeking help unto Allah alone?

      And also, be careful about oath, I don't think it is good to make oath without enough consideration (sufficient thought).

      If you still not able to maintain your oath, then perhaps it is better if what you do is making commitment - without oath/promise/pledge.

      And also, if I'm not mistaken...

      Didn't you already married to her??

      Can you be trusted, agphys?

      Whether you really tell the truth about yourself?

      A liar lies at their own expense. That doesn't mean it is not God who is showing us an example by creating a liar or a truth teller. If agphys is wise, he will listen to what has been written here, and if he is to be unwise, then he will watch with his own eyes where it takes him.

      He doesn't need to make any oaths, and should avoid oaths altogether, because he has no ability to keep them, but instead should pursue goodness and justice in everything, and that advice applies to anyone and everyone. He won't be able to do it if he isn't humble and is one of the bad people.

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        FreedomStands
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        Well, the thing is we did but thats what i thought because we did it the wrong way firstly and then we said that its better to break this and just have a normal relationship. I felt like the girl from runaway bride you know.

        But after ramadan ill be honest and marry her with 2 witnessed, if she agrees/doesnt agree then may God forgive us for our sins

        Yes, and keep to honor, even if one day you don't feel this or don't feel that, always do what is just and right, and tie yourself up and save yourself from doing what is corrupt or cruel or hurtful or wrong, and always be the good one.

        All of this has been good advice for you and I hope you take it as a salve to your battle wounds.

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          FreedomStands
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          Maybe read all the posts from the beginning and then when a person has made many mistakes, they just need to stop and think "ok, now, if God so wills, I will try my best to do everything justly and rightly, and only God can guide me as to what to do, without God I am lost entirely".

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            agphys
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            You feel bad because God is making you feel bad, and it may be that God wills that such an event is used as a catalyst for change towards goodness, that you have been selected to be turned. It is an honor, if you are one to go down that path, otherwise it may be that God seeks to torment you, but whatever it is, God is doing it and you're at the mercy of God.

            My recommendation is to seriously take what I've said here, and start your life as my brother knight in honor and nobility, compassion, and true righteous justness.

            How attractive a proposal, and it is easy for Allah to grant it to you, but only the humble shall be knighted, and the humble are those who realize they have no strength of their own whatsoever, nor can even will a thing save Allah wills it for them, who truly know the Surrender of their whole being and that they are helpless before Allah, their life story is written by Allah, and if it is good or bad, they have no control over it as was demonstrated to you repeatedly. They turn in terrified repentance realizing that God can push them over a cliff or make them slit their own throat, the terrible power of our Master.

            The arrogant can not bow, or prostrate, or do right, they are left blind to the knowledge that God is driving them and pushing them, and one day they will perhaps see with their own eyes the chains that are around their neck. Those same chains are around our neck too, but the arrogant don't believe in them so then maybe they will made to see.

            If you think you can do it on your own, then prepare yourself for a life of many mistakes, because the ultimate lesson, the whole lesson of life and everything which is ALL the communication of Allah to us, is this "All Power Belongs to Allah". Anyone who does not comprehend ALL means ALL, is being made arrogant and averse to the truth, and they may never be in the assemble of the righteous knights of God. Such are expelled, rejected, and despised, and they still follow the commands of God, but as rebels, who spread corruption and are hated by themselves, and hated by the whole world, the angels, and God, God creates even what is hateful and abominable, and you should dread being that.

            Take this sin and repeated sin as God stabbing you with a sword, puncturing your heart, and you know that sometimes disease elimination includes surgery.

            If God has given you the will to turn right, and if God gives you the ability to do what I've said and take these messages well, then praise God and be grateful, and be most diligent in pursuing righteousness like a wolf or a hyena, stalk it everywhere, and strike at every opportunity to be amazing and wonderful, and you will be a blessed one then, as long as you know it is God who has done it and God who does it, no credit belongs to you ever in anything, good or bad, so pray to be saved from being made an evildoer and unjust one and being lost, and pray you heed and do exactly what is most good and best of all and pray that you achieve the ultimate happiness in this life and the next, and the ultimate happiness is to Know God, who is Chaos, and understand Slavery, that you were made an Actor, a Machine, you do exactly what God wants you to do, so you were made a warrior, so fight for good, and then you know Peace, Surrendering to the Reality of things.

            Thank you, so much. This all happened while i was not doing my daily prayers for the remebrance of God, but im now assured of that prayers do really act as a barrier against sins etc, without the remembrance of god trough prayer etc, then youre on manual-mode.

            Im very thankful for your thoughts and youre help, i will ponder on what has been written and do everything i can to better myself, so as to achieve the good in this world and the hereafter if god wills.

            But what i know now is that i need to repent and live a more righteous life if god wills.

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              FreedomStands
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              Thank you, so much. This all happened while i was not doing my daily prayers for the remebrance of God, but im now assured of that prayers do really act as a barrier against sins etc, without the remembrance of god trough prayer etc, then youre on manual-mode.

              Im very thankful for your thoughts and youre help, i will ponder on what has been written and do everything i can to better myself, so as to achieve the good in this world and the hereafter if god wills.

              But what i know now is that i need to repent and live a more righteous life if god wills.

              Great response, and yes, please do read it, I just read it all again myself, and I hope that I take heed of the same messages I gave you too. I also spread it to some others, we're all in the same boat, in the same condition, in need of the same advice and help, and should hope to be on the same mission of goodness in everything. Have a beautiful day insha'Allah!

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                FreedomStands
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                https//youtu.be/uV0dwrpkUKE?t=189

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                  Armanaziz
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                  Hi FreedomStands.

                  I too like your suggestions to agphys.
                  Nice words.

                  Regards,
                  Arman

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                    FreedomStands
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                    Hi FreedomStands.

                    I too like your suggestions to agphys.
                    Nice words.

                    Regards,
                    Arman

                    Thank you very much! We all should do it if we can!

                    https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqLRqzTp6Rk

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                      FreedomStands
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                      https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTcJWhmdzpg

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                        JavaLatte
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                        I think there is something wrong that has occurred in this thread, really... =___=

                        I suppose we actually do not know his true condition and situation...

                        and what if people here gave him unsuitable advices...?

                        Now, also, why not see if you can be honorable with this girl, and not do Zina but instead properly do your duty towards her and be righteous and knightly and give to her the proper rights and respect, and if you marry her, then you can do it all day it long what is the big deal then, except that she is a kaffir?

                        I thought you disagree if a Muslim marry with a Christian?

                        To my knowledge, the girl is a Christian (if agphys refer to the same person).

                        i told her to agrre to my wish to do mutah, and shes a christian..

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                          FreedomStands
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                          I think there is something wrong that has occurred in this thread, really... =___=

                          I suppose we actually do not know his true condition and situation...

                          and what if people here gave him unsuitable advices...?

                          I thought you disagree if a Muslim marry with a Christian?

                          To my knowledge, the girl is a Christian (if agphys refer to the same person).

                          He is only supposed to do the best he can. I don't know anything about his life or his situation, except my advice is good.

                          Regardless if a woman is a polytheist even, you are to do right to a human being, it doesn't matter. Yes, it is forbidden to marry an evildoer, but never is it wrong to be just and right in your conduct, and to do what is most appropriate and good, and to be just to women regardless of their background. It may be that she might become a Muslim if she is not already, but his duty is only to do goodness and right.

                          Do you see?

                          https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5bjJzJ-T4c

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                            FreedomStands
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                            https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=BF1DQr5dKW8

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                              FreedomStands
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                              I think there is something wrong that has occurred in this thread, really... =___=

                              Can you let me know what went wrong in your opinion?

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                                FreedomStands
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                                https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=_h3QM_zp8NQ

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                                  FreedomStands
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                                  https//youtu.be/kI4fAU_X1fQ?t=90

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                                    FreedomStands
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                                    https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qf1JvdomH6s

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                                      JavaLatte
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                                      Honestly, I don't know the true things regarding what happened to him and that girl, about their true situation, and about what really happened between them.

                                      I hope he will seek Allah alone, for help and guidance.

                                      May Allah help you, agphys.

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                                        FreedomStands
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                                        Honestly, I don't know the true things regarding what happened to him and that girl, about their true situation, and about what really happened between them.

                                        I hope he will seek Allah alone, for help and guidance.

                                        May Allah help you, agphys.

                                        I think what happened is what I hear about so frequently, a girl and a guy met, and they fooled around and had sexual relations of various sorts, sometimes short of penetrative sex, but still doing pretty much everything. People tend to feel terrible after this, and its because the whole thing is set up wrong. This is why men and women should not meet each other like that.

                                        In any case, now he simply has to use it as fuel to drive himself in goodness and try to make things right and do whatever is right.

                                        To other people, I warn them not to think they can do better than him, as this is a very common thing that happens.

                                        Knowing this, one should take preventative measures way ahead of time, and always act justly from the earliest point so that there is no shame or dishonor involved in anything which you do righteously with the intention of being compassionate, and good, charitable, just, righteous, honorable, knightly, and doing your duty and obligation, giving the proper rights and whatever else.

                                        If she can convert, even a fake conversion just on the surface, God knows their heart, and if she doesn't do what is right, you are not obligated to force anyone only that you try to make things right and do what is just, and forever turn towards knightly conduct.

                                        If anyone listens to me, it may be to their benefit, and if anyone has objections, they should bring it up to discuss or help me.

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                                          FreedomStands
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                                          In my world, his story and posting acted as a catalyst to make some interesting speeches just now, find some interesting lyrics in music videos, and do other things.

                                          My speeches are dangerous, because it can be said "You spoke, but you did not do it yourself!", this is why my speeches are a pressure, and I am most bound and obligated to follow them as it is worse if I don't, being the speaker. So no one should admire my work on this forum, in the sense that its all a burden on the speaker.

                                          I advise anyone to follow what is best and most right, and if someone thinks that is wrong of me to say, then they should explain.

                                          Yet his story has already acted to produce what I deem good, such as my statements here, and so the flowering has already begun, thanks to righteous action.

                                          His righteous guilt and reduced ego sharing of the thing, and then my speeches out of compassion, etc etc. It is our hope that Arman, and him, and even you (though in your case I don't know if you'll even try), should follow it closely and try to live up to it if they can, and me most of all and whoever reads it too.

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