Demon-Magic-Magician (Real)
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Yes exactly, free of blame.
But if you say God does allow the atrocities in the world then you say God can be blamed for them. I knew what I was talking about. God protects whom The Master wills, but God does not interfere in all of man's affairs or there would not be atrocities in the world. But if people around you suffer then you may be partially responsible for them, take poor people etc or that someome is treated unfairly and one is only a succumbing to the so-called bystander syndrome.
Now it is that God will help in spirit for those who seek The Master and it will be as we wield the spirit, and we make prayers that are powerful. God is not an object as to which you communicate but is omnipresent not in one particular location and thus hard to treat as an object.
Good logic spells out "disbeliever" as if it talks about the misconceived phenomenon disbelief, but it speaks of poor judgment.
Shirk is when you involve another judiciary than the one of God, i.e. indulge in teachings not having anything to do with God such as restricting certain food or teaching them rituals and wicked things, but as a summary can be said that anything that is attributed to God and then said to be canonized as something God orders then it is that.
Be of one with God
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That's...unsettling to hear, I've had my share of problems presumably it seems from black magicians /
Its best to keep away from people who do black magic. We cut off communication with those relatives. Its not difficult to stay away from curses though. In fact, if you have not done anything bad or repent to Allah for your sin, the curse will end up going back to the person who put it on you. Curse can't do a thing if you get rid of arrogance.
No human or jinn or anything else can harm another, except by God's leave....
Allah did give all of us (jinns included) free will. That's why, there are serial killers out there. Always ask for protection from Allah. That's one of the ways to stay away from evil people and jinns.
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Allah did give all of us (jinns included) free will. That's why, there are serial killers out there. Always ask for protection from Allah. That's one of the ways to stay away from evil people and jinns.
My thoughts exactly. And thank you for the kind suggestion sister
But if you say God does allow the atrocities in the world then you say God can be blamed for them.
No, you cannot. There is a clear difference between God willing something and God allowing something to happen, it is both interlinked and separate at the same time. And this is something most people do not know and find it hard to comprehend. good logic in his/her post, referred to the story of Haroot and Maroot - I suggest to everyone to read it again and carefully try to understand the message that is being conveyed.
If someone believes that atrocities happen against God's allowance then you are implying that God is somehow challenged. THIS can be classified as shirk. Why? well for God to be challenged, logically there must be some other force at work - so you effectively setup an equal/rival in power - THAT is shirk.
Peace by upon you all!
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Peace A.Wayne.
I have not implied or suggested anything. I have just given you a verse to ponder.
All power belongs to GOD Alone. No one or nothing else has any power over GOD s creations!!!
Hence believing anyone or anything created can harm you or benefit you is "shirk" . Do you disagree?
GOD bless you.
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Now you misunderstand my sentences Mr Wayne.
What I am saying is that with your reasoning then God can be blamed for the atrocities in the world. God has given respite to this world, but may yet intervene giving protection to certain people. So God is a little like neutral letting the world "run" on its own although observing all that happens. God does not give leave/permission for the atrocities to happen and this was the point I wished to get to. Of course it is God who who is passively the doer of everything (because we live in the foundation which is God), but the bad is still from ourselves.
Anyway, now that I think of it, it seems we both misunderstood each other. God allows the atrocities to occur although it is not God's will. That is a quite fundamentally given fact.
But what I misunderstood was the original post term usage where it sounds like you give God the blame for something. It is quite a foundation/platform we live on where we have relative free will to execute physical movement and also for evil purposes. God has given respite to use that privilege during this test, but all actions and thoughts are also recorded and everything will be used against us in the final court.
Be of one with God
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Stay away from magic, God condemns it and it is THE WORST THING YOU CAN POSIBLY even watch a video about or anything. i know because i used to practice magic. when you say 'magicians may use Jinn/daemons in doing their stuff' this is true, its exactly what i used to do (although i thought i was tapping into some kind of universal conciousness), and I understanding now that i read Quran, that is how things like psychic readings, mind reading, telepathy and things like that work. some jinns are cunning and misleading bastards so its best to stay away from them.
Praise be to God be saved me from it.
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@ Timotheus
May I know how you could finally get away from it?
I mean, how you "clean up" from them. Was that difficult?
Praise be to God, it was nothing i could do, but God saved me from it. I honestly can say i did anything, but turned to God because i was Fearfull and believed that people were going to kill me for leaving their magic cult. after stumbles and hickups God guided me to the right path. I spent 5 and a half months in prison after i turned my back on The cult. Previously the Police were letting me get away with everything and anything because they are all corrupt and part of the cult. It sounds like a deluded conspiracy but its real. well.. a real deluded conspiracy haha
The time in prison was good, all i had was The Quran, so i just kept reading it, every day and night and I started to understand it.
It was and Is hard, I was so much in satans pocket that its been a long journey, However once i learnt some Quran, and to seek refuge in God that helped alot, at first i used to recite the last two surahs, because it gave me a bit of security, gradualy God just seemed to guide me and show me how Satan had decieved me, and that God was actualy in charge.
In terms of How to clean up.. many many times with my face on the ground crying and begging God to save me, to purify me and to help me, the more i trusted the more he did answer my prayers, showed me his signs and helped me. But to be honest i still wonder at how i was saved from it all, realy all credit is to God, it was nothing i could have done, but God has been good to me and realy its a miracle the way i see it.
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Thank you very much for sharing your story! @ Timotheus
In terms of How to clean up.. many many times with my face on the ground crying and begging God to save me, to purify me and to help me, the more i trusted the more he did answer my prayers, showed me his signs and helped me. But to be honest i still wonder at how i was saved from it all, realy all credit is to God, it was nothing i could have done, but God has been good to me and realy its a miracle the way i see it.
Lovely! Praise be to God. May God be your Protector.
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@ Timotheus
May I know how you could finally get away from it?
I mean, how you "clean up" from them. Was that difficult?
Peace JavaLatte,
See the article in this post
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9606694.msg353883#msg353883
You might find it helpful/useful.
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Hiroshi, I don't really care about "Magic", but I believe verse 726.
In my view, that's not magic, but evil deed.
For me, the story about shamanism & jinns is not strange anymore. )
that verse is very true. The Quran helped me to uderstand how i had become so lost
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that verse is very true.
*nod
The Quran helped me to uderstand how i had become so lost
I think Allah is the True Helper and Who taught you to understand about that.
In my view, the Qur'an is the medium (means) and currently also as the replacement/successor of the messenger.
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Peace JavaLatte,
Hiroshi, I don't really care about "Magic", but I believe verse 726.
In my view, that's not magic, but evil deed.
For me, the story about shamanism & jinns is not strange anymore.
Speaking of shamanism, according to the research of some historians, the witches of Europe were remnants of an old shamanic culture of Europe. There might have been a witch-cult in Europe. And some of those who were persecuted as witches might have been followers of a pre-christian religion (or religions) that went underground after the conversions. Also, according to the research of some historians, many witches were men. Thus, witches might have been both men and women.
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Peace Hiroshi,
I suppose there are female shamans in Indonesia, but it seems that most of shamans in my country are males. By the way, what I mean on my post (that you quoted) is that I'm not surprising anymore to hear about shamanism story (the practice of shamanism).
Anyway, I don't believe that every person who claims himself/herself as a shaman is the real shaman. And also, perhaps not all shamans involve the jinn in their practices. I don't know much about those kinds of people (shamans) and I'm not interested to know them close, I better not. I don't support shamanism practice. I think that kind of practice is unrighteous. I prefer to judge thing (whether it is right or wrong) by using righteousness value as basic, because I think that using this method helps a lot to differentiate good from bad (as well as indication of the truthfulness of a person).
And some of those who were persecuted as witches might have been followers of a pre-christian religion (or religions) that went underground after the conversions.
Hmm? that's interesting. I didn't know that.
Peace.