Was Moses in Egypt?????
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This is as close to we can get to some "facts" on the matter
The Jews have long considered the place of Moses in the Bible to be Egypt, which they called Mizr and the Qur'an calls Misr.
The Qur'an uses the term Misr, and does not seem to explicitly correct any misinterpretation the Jews and Christians may have had at that time considering the place to be Egypt, which was stilled called Misr in that day apparently, while other places were called other things.
It really doesn't matter much where Moses was at all probably, just that we take the important lessons from the stories, in that we it is also not important whether it happened this way or that way or at all, since the information is created by God, and all that exists now are the stories where one can maybe learn things, whereas all those events themselves are not in our experience, only the simulations in our imaginations when reading the stories perhaps.
Using this sort of careful analysis, we can maybe re-focus on taking what is of real value from the scriptures, rather than warring about what may be ultimately arbitrary and even is "changeable" by God.
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https//ashraf62.wordpress.com/ancient-egypt-knew-no-pharaohs/
If you think that history is all about the past ? you?d better think again.If you think the stories the Hebrew Bible had told about ancient Egypt were true ? you?d better think once again.And if you believe that ancient Egypt was ruled by pharaohs ? then you?d better read the next lines...
Dr. Ashraf Ezzat
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In your opinion yes, hicham9. Although I do agree that he was not in the Egypt that we know.
However, he was much further away from this part of the world. Far far away towards the west.
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Brother MOF, was he in Sweden?
Or may be he was leading the Vikings?
Where is the "far far away towards the west" place?
GOD bless you.
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No, good logic, he was not in Sweden.
I suppose you have to practice on your geographic skill. Sweden is more north than west if you speak about that.
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Peace MOF.
Moses was with Pharaoh.
Pharaoh and Egypt (Masr) go together like a hand and a glove.Why do I need geography or any kind of skill to know that?
Sometimes I have no idea why we do not throw everything we know about anything and start again.
This sectarians have made up the maps, the history and where Moses was?
However I will still look at your findings to see what is new about where Moses was.
I take it you will tell me where this "far far away to the west place " is?
GOD bless you.
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I take it you will tell me where this "far far away to the west place " is?
It is "over jordan". Moses people traveled for many many years. And they traveled through the Sahara desert.
Why do I need geography or any kind of skill to know that?
I was being sarcastic in return to your not so serious input as you mentioned Sweden and you obviously know that Sweden is towards the north rather than west.
The traditional Egypt place is a good guess, but it is not far away enough and the scope is way larger.
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In the epic, he's said to embody the wild/natural world, being a "wild man" (allegedly raised by animals) who would later come closer to civilization and somehow become "best friends" with the (tyrant) cultured, urban-bred king ! I'd say an authoritative high priest-like figure who claimed supernatural powers (& whatnot).
The priests of ancient Mesopotamia were considered 1st class, and thus possessed a large amount of authority, i was told.
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Thank you for showing interest, brother HP
What civilization authored these depictions?
Sumerians (see Epic of Gilgamesh)
The tyrannical king of Uruk, Gilgamesh, seems to fit well the persona/image of Phern - the cruel self-proclaimed "god" of mr as depicted in the Qurn - way better than the alleged mummy of Ramesses II (mainstream op), i daresay ?Though, more scrutiny needs be done here before a final/decisive conclusion can be reached just yet. For, if Gilgamesh is indeed "Pharaoh," then who's Ms (in context) ?
I want to draw a graphic novel starring the real Mesopotamian Ms (based on the real story/chronology) so badly _
SLM
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Hich perhaps you're my long lost brother I've been searching for?
I can draw too! I haven't in a while though... I wanted to be cartoonist when I was younger, I even made a small comic book once of a series. My classmates loved it hahaha
Now I am lucky if I have time to doodle in my notebook -\
We are both firm on the Quran, acknowledge His Signs about the creation of the heavens and the earth ("flat" earth) and we both can draw.
What are the chances??I would like to see some of your work someday!
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Hich perhaps you're my long lost brother I've been searching for?
Haha! Maybe
I can draw too! I haven't in a while though... I wanted to be cartoonist when I was younger, I even made a small comic book once of a series. My classmates loved it hahaha. Now I am lucky if I have time to doodle in my notebook -\
Interesting!
I've kinda had a similar past ! ... a pattern ?
We are both firm on the Quran, acknowledge His Signs about the creation of the heavens and the earth ("flat" earth)
The planate/stationary Earth is but the very tip of the iceberg
May ALLH increase us in knowledge/gnosis, and grant us salvation/redemption.
True liberty consisteth in man's complete submission to the Will of ALLH.
Kneeling in homage/servitude is only natural/rational --- hybris is out of the question.and we both can draw.
Everyone can,
they just forgot.What are the chances??
Qurn 3179, 109, &c. It's fate
I would like to see some of your work someday!
The same i say to you
Publicly, or privately ?