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Was Moses in Egypt?????

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    HP_TECH
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    Interesting why is Haman portrayed as a hoofed and horned man ?

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      hicham9
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      In the epic, he's said to embody the wild/natural world, being a "wild man" (allegedly raised by animals) who would later come closer to civilization and somehow become "best friends" with the (tyrant) cultured, urban-bred king ! I'd say an authoritative high priest-like figure who claimed supernatural powers (& whatnot).

      The priests of ancient Mesopotamia were considered 1st class, and thus possessed a large amount of authority, i was told.

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        What civilization authored these depictions?

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          hicham9
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          Thank you for showing interest, brother HP

          What civilization authored these depictions?

          Sumerians (see Epic of Gilgamesh)

          The tyrannical king of Uruk, Gilgamesh, seems to fit well the persona/image of Phern - the cruel self-proclaimed "god" of mr as depicted in the Qurn - way better than the alleged mummy of Ramesses II (mainstream op), i daresay ?Though, more scrutiny needs be done here before a final/decisive conclusion can be reached just yet. For, if Gilgamesh is indeed "Pharaoh," then who's Ms (in context) ?

          I want to draw a graphic novel starring the real Mesopotamian Ms (based on the real story/chronology) so badly _

          SLM

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            HP_TECH
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            Do you draw Hicham?

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              hicham9
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              Yes, i do ? thanks to His Absoluteness )

              Should i reckon ALLH's gifts/favors upon me, i'd never be able to count them.

              I'm indebted, from head to toe.

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                Hich perhaps you're my long lost brother I've been searching for?

                I can draw too! I haven't in a while though... I wanted to be cartoonist when I was younger, I even made a small comic book once of a series. My classmates loved it hahaha

                Now I am lucky if I have time to doodle in my notebook -\

                We are both firm on the Quran, acknowledge His Signs about the creation of the heavens and the earth ("flat" earth) and we both can draw.
                What are the chances??

                I would like to see some of your work someday!

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                  Hich perhaps you're my long lost brother I've been searching for?

                  Haha! Maybe 😜

                  I can draw too! I haven't in a while though... I wanted to be cartoonist when I was younger, I even made a small comic book once of a series. My classmates loved it hahaha. Now I am lucky if I have time to doodle in my notebook -\

                  Interesting!

                  I've kinda had a similar past ! ... a pattern ?

                  We are both firm on the Quran, acknowledge His Signs about the creation of the heavens and the earth ("flat" earth)

                  The planate/stationary Earth is but the very tip of the iceberg

                  May ALLH increase us in knowledge/gnosis, and grant us salvation/redemption.

                  True liberty consisteth in man's complete submission to the Will of ALLH.
                  Kneeling in homage/servitude is only natural/rational --- hybris is out of the question.

                  and we both can draw.

                  Everyone can,
                  they just forgot.

                  What are the chances??

                  Qurn 3179, 109, &c. It's fate

                  I would like to see some of your work someday!

                  The same i say to you

                  Publicly, or privately ?

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                    HP_TECH
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                    The same i say to you

                    Publicly, or privately ?

                    Either or is fine. I am not an exceptional artist, I am what my father calls a copy-artist hahaha ;D

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                      Cool (&#9679

                      A copy-artist can draw what he sees, right ?

                      Drawing from imagination ain't much different ...

                      Ps. Does your father draw too ?

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                        Cool (&#9679

                        A copy-artist can draw what he sees, right ?

                        Drawing from imagination ain't much different ...

                        https//scontent-bru2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/t31.0-8/fr/cp0/e15/q65/56953_158201404212912_6795019_o.jpg?efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9

                        Ps. Does your father draw too ?

                        Wow bro your art is on point!!
                        I am nowhere near your skill level but I'll show you some of my old work for sure.
                        How do I link it or show it to you in an efficient way, I am not too techy despite my username haha

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                          HP_TECH
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                          Here goes nothing Bro!

                          Actually a lot of these drawings were done way before I repented, so some are a bit on the dark side lol

                          http//postimg.org/gallery/2n2apwgbq/

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                            http//postimg.org/gallery/2n2apwgbq/

                            Neat!

                            The flair is there,
                            the rest is practice ?

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                              HP_TECH
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                              Much obliged

                              God willing I'll start drawing again soon

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                                mmkhan
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                                Here goes nothing Bro!

                                Actually a lot of these drawings were done way before I repented, so some are a bit on the dark side lol

                                http//postimg.org/gallery/2n2apwgbq/

                                Peace,

                                Nice drawings! yes

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                                  HP_TECH
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                                  Thanks mmkhan
                                  But have you seen Hicham's they are amazing and his coloring!

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                                    Hizbullah
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                                    Salam

                                    Quran;02102 - And they followed what the devils had recited during the Kingdom of Solomon. It was not Solomon who disbelieved, but the devils disbelieved, teaching people magic and that which was revealed to the two angels at Babylon, Harut and Marut. But the two angels do not teach anyone unless they say, "We are a trial, so do not disbelieve ." And they learn from them that by which they cause separation between a man and his wife. But they do not harm anyone through it except by permission of Allah. And the people learn what harms them and does not benefit them. But they certainly knew that whoever purchased the magic would not have in the Hereafter any share. And wretched is that for which they sold themselves, if they only knew.

                                    The verse above tells us that people of Sulaiman, were the descendants of the preexilic people who follow Musa. They were the descendants of the Sumerian, who were fond of magic. The verse tells us that these people, their descendants were from Babylon, Mesopotamia!

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                                      mmkhan
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                                      Thanks mmkhan
                                      But have you seen Hicham's they are amazing and his coloring!

                                      Peace,

                                      You are welcome bro.
                                      Was that drawing by Hicham? It was amazing, mashaAllah. Really cool.

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                                        tutti_frutti
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                                        Hello

                                        I think moses was in egypt

                                        Please see the following verse “for you are well aware of those from among you who profaned the Sabbath, whereupon We said unto them, "Be as apes despicable!" - 265

                                        For me it was clear that the “apes despicable” refer to what scientists claim to be the common ape ancestor of humans and apes. and the skeletons of these hominids were found in africa ... and the transgressors of the sanbath were told to be depised apes - so what scientists claim as common ancestors are actually transgressors of sabbath (Yhe God also says He left then as deterring punishment in chapter 2 verse 66)

                                        Note how The God uses an adjective to describe the apes whilst in chapter 5 verse 60 The God does not use any adjectives ro describe the apes

                                        Regarding the pharaoh, I think it could perhaps be akhenaton.

                                        According to historians he did not have sons. His wife nefertiti was taken away from all records and lost to history (in the Quran The God tells us she asked to be separated from pharaoh and to be have a house built
                                        in paradise so I am guessing she became a muslim). Also the city of amarna was totally forgotten and destroyed and The God tells us in Quran that He destroyed pharaoh’s works and buildings (surah 7 verse 137)
                                        akhenaton was also a tyrant as he completely changed the religion in egypt and shut down many temples. he me tioned he was son of atun (please check the hymns) so it wasnt really a monotheistic religion.
                                        the city he built amarna was also on the nile river

                                        Please also google the first time the word pharaoh was used and results will come back either for akhenaton or during dynasty he ruled in

                                        please also check this article

                                        https//www.ancient-origins.net/news-history-archaeology/was-pharaoh-akhenaten-so-cruel-he-forced-children-build-his-city-amarna-021429

                                        my counter arguments

                                        pharaoh in Quran says rivers (plural) floweing beneath him whilst amarna had only the nile i think

                                        pharaohs advisors mention that they believed what their fore fathers believed whilst akhenaton changed the religion (albeit perhaps he changed it after a long period)

                                        archeologists say akhenaton ruled only 17 years (they could veeery well be wrong though)

                                        other candidate cities include thonis-heraclion

                                        those were just my thought maybe im wrong

                                        for those who claim persia, i think persia was rather where david and solomon were and zoroastrianism was actually formed from what was sent to david, the Zabor

                                        please share your thoughts

                                        peace

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                                          huruf
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                                          What the Qur'an says in the stories about Musa and Yusuf does not match Egypt even by far. Impossible.

                                          Salaam

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