drugs and the religion
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I think it's clear from the Quran that the prophets were upright characters not drug taking hippies. I can't remember the specific verses but if I recall correctly the Quran says I.e the prophet is not a mad man and he was not making it up, that he saw a truthful vision, or something along those lines.
7184, 682 are a few.
Having been a drug addict/ abuser much of my life since adolescence I have come to understand there is a vast difference between drug induced hallucinations and divine inspiration.
And what certain people including myself in the past might believe to be divine inspiration is in fact just delusion, and easily realised by the inconsistency and logical flaws of what people on drugs claim as visions of divine inspiration etc.
If you're willing, can you elaborate more on your personal experience? I'm curious to know more about what you perceive as the difference.
Peace.
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Having been a drug addict/ abuser much of my life since adolescence I have come to understand there is a vast difference between drug induced hallucinations and divine inspiration.
I hope this isn't off-topic Timo, do you forget your picture it still be there? Who know who are seeing your profil right now and telling to others?
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drugs , sometimes make life hell, still its very hard to get rid of any drug, its more than a curse , take away everything from you . but again the difference you feel after doing any type of sin or consuming drug is totally understadable,
if u do sex, rob ,lie, disrespect, arrogance, something stuck inside you and stop you of doing it,
in the case of drugs it never happen , consumer use it as a food/fuel. and never think he is doin anything wrong.what is this all behind it,
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I hope this isn't off-topic Timo, do you forget your picture it still be there? Who know who are seeing your profil right now and telling to others?
Peace
No I do not forget, I just do not really care what other people say or think about me.
At the end of the day they are not the ones judging me or anyone else on the day of resurrection.
I am very open and honest as much as I can be of my past and my experiences. If anyone else can learn from them than I am more than willing to share. We can't hide who we are from God. Why should we even be remotely concerned by hiding who we are from others. As my past is a significant part of how I came to be where I am.
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I think it's clear from the Quran that the prophets were upright characters not drug taking hippies. I can't remember the specific verses but if I recall correctly the Quran says I.e the prophet is not a mad man and he was not making it up, that he saw a truthful vision, or something along those lines.
Having been a drug addict/ abuser much of my life since adolescence I have come to understand there is a vast difference between drug induced hallucinations and divine inspiration.
And what certain people including myself in the past might believe to be divine inspiration is in fact just delusion, and easily realised by the inconsistency and logical flaws of what people on drugs claim as visions of divine inspiration etc.
I would seriously consider your view and see if it compatible with the ultimate criterion, the Quran. If you hope to be admitted into God's mercy in this life and the next.
We don't have to guess or speculate, we have the facts. God speaks the truth. And he knows while we do not.
Peace
But your still dealing with matter effecting outlook.
Your brain is creating chemicals to change your emotion. -
We are all compounds your eyes just don't see because that's what they do they are made of little things that compose them. You don't just hear.
We are like a trip to the plant. To put it in a hippies way of speaking.What causes us to see? We have a telescope like design if reflective tissue. They gadget than what it's made of. What about sense of touch like water we react to touch.
Can you make a human body? Yeah but the chemicals in the brain are what causes processes it's not like silcon on a motherboard.
When Moses sees a vision what chemically and mechanically allows him to see what he saw? Was it truly there are were remembered he chemicals simply there to tell him that?
Everything even hell and heaven have to physically exist or it's not true.A vision is what a play on. The eyes?
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But your still dealing with matter effecting outlook.
Your brain is creating chemicals to change your emotion.Yes God has created wonderfully complex and interconnected beings.
However this is irrelevant because messengers are only passing on the message from God and it's clear from the Quran that Muhammad did that job and completed it. Once again I find myself asking why are we focusing on the human beings when we should be focusing on god and his message he is fully capable of preserving and conveying, regardless of the media of delivery. -
We are all compounds your eyes just don't see because that's what they do they are made of little things that compose them. You don't just hear.
We are like a trip to the plant. To put it in a hippies way of speaking.What causes us to see? We have a telescope like design if reflective tissue. They gadget than what it's made of. What about sense of touch like water we react to touch.
Can you make a human body? Yeah but the chemicals in the brain are what causes processes it's not like silcon on a motherboard.
When Moses sees a vision what chemically and mechanically allows him to see what he saw? Was it truly there are were remembered he chemicals simply there to tell him that?
Everything even hell and heaven have to physically exist or it's not true.A vision is what a play on. The eyes?
God knows while we do not know.
Who do you put your trust in, your very limited knowledge of science, where the study of the brain is still very new, or one who is all knowing and wise. I know who I choose.
The one who is all knowing and wise. Because "above every knowledgeable one is one who is all knowing"
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My story in its entirety would probably fill up a library but if you are curious as to something specific and relevant that would be easy enough
Brother, you do not have to tell nobody about these things, people want to know too much. I think we better talk about Islamic issues and not drugs.
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The science is very new but in history when something supernatural occurs it is always some chemicals acting on people like the Salem witch trials it was lsd causing those girls to feel like they were flying.
The science is very new but the events can be very old. Like a cold being called a spiritual thing we wonder about the source of things and we have to realize people eat a lot of psychoactive chemicals on accident this is just a part of our trial in this life.
Question if you had a vision that inspired you to ignore the world and take a path to your Lord would you follow it?
Consider yeast turns sugars into alcohol so a sandwich is a microdose
Microdoses effect.your mind first then your body.
Also would you find any part of it "holy" ?
I believe this has been happening since the dawn of time even hunger can cause you to trip out a bit. I just think these psychoactive trips are a part of the story.
Like the why did he have a vision it was ALLAH's will so ALLAH willed he would micro dose on some strange berries it seeds finding no food in the desert.
I am saying ingesting certian plants causes one to have a dream.
We are like robots made of protein sugars and water, ALLAH created is to be tried by even chemicals. How about of these prophets analyzed there food each day leaving with us a journal of there diet? -
Everything even hell and heaven have to physically exist or it's not true.
Not necessarily. There is a state of being which has no physical body. Heaven is such condition and one has no attached body therein.
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Brother, you do not have to tell nobody about these things, people want to know too much. I think we better talk about Islamic issues and not drugs.
peace, yes indeed, hence me saying 'anything relevant'. but you are right, and the criterion for truth v falsehood is all in the quran, thank God
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Not necessarily. There is a state of being which has no physical body. Heaven is such condition and one has no attached body therein.
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But some "thing" goes to these places or experiences these state's our blood makes us feel and live it flows through our bodies. What part of us as bodies and the spirit and the soul thing are what I think are simply waves like colors or uv rays or even radio or wifi they would be a form of wave energy reaching out for other waves light knowledge that thing it simply has to be there or all religion is fake.
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Also Tim
The thing is that these chemicals in our blood stream makes the body feel and experience that was kinda the post center what makes these men feel in a dream or reality?
We know it's water. We know it's earth. We know it's blood and bone and skin.
But what could have effected these things for a once only vision?
I believe it's chemical it always has to be we are nothing but these things.
Also if the brain gets damages then the soul changes? Or spirit changes?
Is their really a soul or spirit or is it simply calculation of choices made giving a probability of choice outcomes.That old fashion religion touched with some sciences really make religion a bit grimmer even to a atheistbut things get more plain