will it be possible for any other country to land on moon.
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But this tree it is mentioned in the Qur'an? Right now I don't remember having read it.
1760 We had said to you "Your Lord has encompassed the people." We did not make the vision that We showed you except as a test for the people, and the tree that was cursed in the Quran. We alert them, but it only increases their transgression.
surah 53 The star/ al-najm talks of 'the lote tree at the utmost boundry beyong which none may pass'
and there is mention that the 'tree of zacumm, will be food for the sinfull' somewhere i cant recall.
i have never realy looked into it however as god says it is a test and it is certainly one of those ambiguous verses without any obvious (to me at least) interpretation
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1760 We had said to you "Your Lord has encompassed the people." We did not make the vision that We showed you except as a test for the people, and the tree that was cursed in the Quran. We alert them, but it only increases their transgression.
surah 53 The star/ al-najm talks of 'the lote tree at the utmost boundry beyong which none may pass'
and there is mention that the 'tree of zacumm, will be food for the sinfull' somewhere i cant recall.
i have never realy looked into it however as god says it is a test and it is certainly one of those ambiguous verses without any obvious (to me at least) interpretation
What do you think about the 1969 numerical miracle ? My beloved Salaf... Sunn... Truth seek... well, this guy seems to believe that both the 1389 verses after 541 and 1969 Moon landing are fraud.
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Tell me why you don't believe in this prophecy.
Because I think this is a great signal. Allah seal the Qur'an with this kind of signs.
If you don't believe it, so why would you believe in the Quranic veracity? It is your blind faith?
Before going into the details of prophecy made in quran can you prove me that moon landing in 1969 was a not lie .before that watch this video first prove that these people are wrong and then we will discuss quran
As far as verse 54.01 is concerned there is historical evidence from outside the Islamic sources .read this link
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see thats what i was afraid off, i was about to talk on political and scientific issues of landing, but you guys bring quran inside again, anyway i will try to give answers what you guys ask,
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Salam;
Not really simply we are in the End Times.
everything is not as simple as we think,
no doubt the end times are only in the knowledge of our lord, nobody even prohpet muhammad was aware about the hour,
while asking about hour Allah clearly say,its Allah who have knowledge of hour
But this tree it is mentioned in the Qur'an? Right now I don't remember having read it.
red, read chapter 53 verses 14 and 16, and also chapter 34 verse 16, 5628.
What do you think about the 1969 numerical miracle ? My beloved Salaf... Sunn... Truth seek... well, this guy seems to believe that both the 1389 verses after 541 and 1969 Moon landing are fraud.
blue its nothing to be do with moon landing with numbering its against quran teaching to join things by hok and crook,
moon landing is fake or real its a different scietific issue not to do anything with prophecy or accuracy.
by the way which year 1389 and who authorised this , is it not hijra that a calendar comes from secondary sources running on moon, totally contradict with quraninc calender that is saying use soli-lunar calender,
and moreover who authorised that calander and dates.
peace.
answers of moon landing real picture will be provide to us when some other country successful in landing untill then we cannot surely say its hoax or true.
@ pervaiz
i can understand you are saying nothing can go beyond earth low orbits , but in the light of modern science and tecnologies like sattelites are contradicting with your statements, yeh sattellites are there 400 miles are matter of minutes to cross by fueling rocket. rocket is not a bullet, rocket consume fuel and now a days atomic research also solved this problems of fueling i think, once again check all things before claiming anything, sciennce is a big favor to us by God we cannot insult science like this, lolxxx hope understand.
peace and God bless you both.
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blue its nothing to be do with moon landing with numbering its against quran teaching to join things by hok and crook,
by the way which year 1389 and who authorised this , is it not hijra that a calendar comes from secondary sources running on moon, totally contradict with quraninc calender that is saying use soli-lunar calender,
and moreover who authorised that calander and dates.
The conversion from hijri to gregorian is a sign that Christians must be follow. It is a sign for Christianity. So, I think that this numerological miracle is legitime.
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As far as verse 54.01 is concerned there is historical evidence from outside the Islamic sources .read this link
Read this Did Prophet Muhammad really split the moon according to the Glorious Quran and the Hadiths? Noble Verse 1759 says no he didn't!
http//www.answering-christianity.com/did_prophet_muhammad_split_moon.htm
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As far as verse 54.01 is concerned there is historical evidence from outside the Islamic sources .read this link
Hi,
If this is what you call evidence, then I can not only prove for you the moon landing, but also the monster of loch ness, aliens, santa, dragons, etc.
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What do you think about the 1969 numerical miracle ? My beloved Salaf... Sunn... Truth seek... well, this guy seems to believe that both the 1389 verses after 541 and 1969 Moon landing are fraud.
blue its nothing to be do with moon landing with numbering its against quran teaching to join things by hok and crook,
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Well said ,Imran
@ pervaiz
i can understand you are saying nothing can go beyond earth low orbits , but in the light of modern science and tecnologies like sattelites are contradicting with your statements, yeh sattellites are there 400 miles are matter of minutes to cross by fueling rocket. rocket is not a bullet, rocket consume fuel and now a days atomic research also solved this problems of fueling i think, once again check all things before claiming anything, sciennce is a big favor to us by God we cannot insult science like this, lolxxx hope understand.
peace and God bless you both.
you misunderstood me , Imran
i am not claiming that nothing can go beyond 400 miles above earth .unmanned space flights can go further and beyond but humans cannot go beyond 400 miles above the earth .We don't have technology to save humans once we cross 400 miles or at least we don't have knowledge of the consequences that the humans will face once we go beyond 400 miles .this is the main reason that no country ,including US ,did not went beyond 400 miles .with the exception of hoax moon landing no human ever ventured so far beyond 400 .this is the main reason to claim moon landing was a hoax . otherwise ,you will see people will be floating in the heaven beyond 400 miles. -
Hi,
If this is what you call evidence, then I can not only prove for you the moon landing, but also the monster of loch ness, aliens, santa, dragons, etc.
You might be correct Ben, my Charavarty farmas theory might go wrong but what about the quraninc verses
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Read this Did Prophet Muhammad really split the moon according to the Glorious Quran and the Hadiths? Noble Verse 1759 says no he didn't!
http//www.answering-christianity.com/did_prophet_muhammad_split_moon.htm
you easily jump out of the topic , LITW
in order to prove your numeric theory to be correct , first you have the prove that moon landing was not a hoax .first prove that and pl dont give a link .i want your own conclusions and proofs .it is better to be original rather being a a parrot -
you easily jump out of the topic , LITW
in order to prove your numeric theory to be correct , first you have the prove that moon landing was not a hoax .first prove that and pl dont give a link .i want your own conclusions and proofs .it is better to be original rather being a a parrotWait... You believe in the unseen but when I post you an undeniable proof from the Qur'an itself about the Moon landing you says LALALALLALALALA.
For the sake of the argument I will concede you man never moon-landed.
Then EXPLAIN why exactly there are 1389 verses and not, 1207 or 235.
Science suport me "In 2012, images were released showing five of the six Apollo missions' American flags erected on the Moon still standing (the Apollo 11 flag was accidentally blown over by the takeoff rocket's exhaust, but is still there)" ---> https//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon_landing_conspiracy_theories
Why people aren't there, in Moon right now? you ask... Because what is the interest?!
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Salam, somehow moon landing conspiracy became related to anti western dogma. Yes western world did a lot of wrong things in the past, but going to the moon was a scientific achievement. I have friends in NASA and SPACEX. It is scientifically possible and engineering wise feasible to send any living creature to moon. The only thing they don't go to the moon again is the safety because of prior mission risks.
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Salam, somehow moon landing conspiracy became related to anti western dogma. Yes western world did a lot of wrong things in the past, but going to the moon was a scientific achievement. I have friends in NASA and SPACEX. It is scientifically possible and engineering wise feasible to send any living creature to moon. The only thing they don't go to the moon again is the safety because of prior mission risks.
Yes it's no longer a "Rocket Science" regarding the technicality on how to send human or other earth natived living animal to the moon.
Besides the risk the other component to the equation is cost..
If you want to lower the risk then the cost will goes up exponentially..Sending lightweight probe / robot (which doesn't require Oxygen, Water or Food) to moon / space / other planet is much better due to it's much lower cost. And they can do many many things which is impossible for human to do..
Plus there is no need for a return trip to earth..The same thing goes on exploration to the (deep) sea.. rather than building a costly submarine to carry human to the depth of the sea, it's better and cheaper to send robot or undersea probe to explore the deep sea.
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Yes it's no longer a "Rocket Science" regarding the technicality on how to send human or other earth natived living animal to the moon.
Except for the flat earth society. hmm
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Wait... You believe in the unseen but when I post you an undeniable proof from the Qur'an itself about the Moon landing you says LALALALLALALALA.
For the sake of the argument I will concede you man never moon-landed.
Then EXPLAIN why exactly there are 1389 verses and not, 1207 or 235.
If you want stick to your by hook or by crook logic then my answer is .......
Quran is a true guidance from the ALLAH subhnavtala and it always guides us to a correct path . this coincidence signals us about the hoax moon landing by US rather it is not proving the moon landing itself and it can treated as sign of aakhira .
one more thing to ponder about this ayah 54.01 is that ,right now we have two views about moon landing. is it this split regarding the moon the ayah was talking about ? ......well this is my wild speculation -
If you want stick to your by hook or by crook logic then my answer is .......
Quran is a true guidance from the ALLAH subhnavtala and it always guides us to a correct path . this coincidence signals us about the hoax moon landing by US rather it is not proving the moon landing itself and it can treated as sign of aakhira .
one more thing to ponder about this ayah 54.01 is that ,right now we have two views about moon landing. is it this split regarding the moon the ayah was talking about ? ......well this is my wild speculationThere is no coincidences in the Qur'an, every word and sentence have his significance.
Even if the man never landed in the Moon, it still be a prophecy.
Advice to you Parvez I strong advice you to register to a more appropriate Forum for people who believe in flat earths.... You will join people who have an affinity with the great scholars of this Ummah, like Albani, Baaz, ibn al-Uthaymn, Taimiyya , etc like this one http//www.salafitalk.com/forum.php
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The same thing goes on exploration to the (deep) sea.. rather than building a costly submarine to carry human to the depth of the sea, it's better and cheaper to send robot or undersea probe to explore the deep sea.
aww i remember, i was watching a documentry deep sea creatures it was amazing , before 1970 it was almost impossible for human to go under deep sea where the pressure of water weight will mess you up, so after advancement in tecnology they achieve it and they feel really scared while exploring deep sea where spectrum of light cannot cross, but here i must say subhanAllah there are creations(aquqatic animals) there that produce their own light , i was amazed , the creatures i see i only say one thing at that time, its only Allah who can make these creatures, when the first mission of deep sea happen they was thhinking no sign of life can exist under sea becoz due to the pressure of water underneath, but they see lot of living creatures with tremendous features,
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Walaqad zayyanna alssamaa alddunya bimasabeeha wajaAAalnaha rujooman lilshshayateeni waaAAtadna lahum AAathaba alssaAAeeri
And certainly We have beautified the heaven nearest with lamps, and We have made them (as) missiles for the devils, and We have prepared for them punishment (of) the Blaze.