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  4. will it be possible for any other country to land on moon.

will it be possible for any other country to land on moon.

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    Jafar
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    Salam, somehow moon landing conspiracy became related to anti western dogma. Yes western world did a lot of wrong things in the past, but going to the moon was a scientific achievement. I have friends in NASA and SPACEX. It is scientifically possible and engineering wise feasible to send any living creature to moon. The only thing they don't go to the moon again is the safety because of prior mission risks.

    Yes it's no longer a "Rocket Science" regarding the technicality on how to send human or other earth natived living animal to the moon.

    Besides the risk the other component to the equation is cost..
    If you want to lower the risk then the cost will goes up exponentially..

    Sending lightweight probe / robot (which doesn't require Oxygen, Water or Food) to moon / space / other planet is much better due to it's much lower cost. And they can do many many things which is impossible for human to do..
    Plus there is no need for a return trip to earth..

    The same thing goes on exploration to the (deep) sea.. rather than building a costly submarine to carry human to the depth of the sea, it's better and cheaper to send robot or undersea probe to explore the deep sea.

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      Man_of_Faith
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      Yes it's no longer a "Rocket Science" regarding the technicality on how to send human or other earth natived living animal to the moon.

      Except for the flat earth society. hmm

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        parvez_mushtaq
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        Wait... You believe in the unseen but when I post you an undeniable proof from the Qur'an itself about the Moon landing you says LALALALLALALALA.

        For the sake of the argument I will concede you man never moon-landed.

        Then EXPLAIN why exactly there are 1389 verses and not, 1207 or 235.

        If you want stick to your by hook or by crook logic then my answer is .......
        Quran is a true guidance from the ALLAH subhnavtala and it always guides us to a correct path . this coincidence signals us about the hoax moon landing by US rather it is not proving the moon landing itself and it can treated as sign of aakhira .
        one more thing to ponder about this ayah 54.01 is that ,right now we have two views about moon landing. is it this split regarding the moon the ayah was talking about ? ......well this is my wild speculation

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          lostINtheWORLD
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          If you want stick to your by hook or by crook logic then my answer is .......
          Quran is a true guidance from the ALLAH subhnavtala and it always guides us to a correct path . this coincidence signals us about the hoax moon landing by US rather it is not proving the moon landing itself and it can treated as sign of aakhira .
          one more thing to ponder about this ayah 54.01 is that ,right now we have two views about moon landing. is it this split regarding the moon the ayah was talking about ? ......well this is my wild speculation

          There is no coincidences in the Qur'an, every word and sentence have his significance.

          Even if the man never landed in the Moon, it still be a prophecy.

          Advice to you Parvez I strong advice you to register to a more appropriate Forum for people who believe in flat earths.... You will join people who have an affinity with the great scholars of this Ummah, like Albani, Baaz, ibn al-Uthaymn, Taimiyya , etc like this one http//www.salafitalk.com/forum.php

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            imrankhawaja
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            The same thing goes on exploration to the (deep) sea.. rather than building a costly submarine to carry human to the depth of the sea, it's better and cheaper to send robot or undersea probe to explore the deep sea.

            aww i remember, i was watching a documentry deep sea creatures it was amazing , before 1970 it was almost impossible for human to go under deep sea where the pressure of water weight will mess you up, so after advancement in tecnology they achieve it and they feel really scared while exploring deep sea where spectrum of light cannot cross, but here i must say subhanAllah there are creations(aquqatic animals) there that produce their own light , i was amazed , the creatures i see i only say one thing at that time, its only Allah who can make these creatures, when the first mission of deep sea happen they was thhinking no sign of life can exist under sea becoz due to the pressure of water underneath, but they see lot of living creatures with tremendous features,

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              HP_TECH
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              675

              Walaqad zayyanna alssamaa alddunya bimasabeeha wajaAAalnaha rujooman lilshshayateeni waaAAtadna lahum AAathaba alssaAAeeri

              And certainly We have beautified the heaven nearest with lamps, and We have made them (as) missiles for the devils, and We have prepared for them punishment (of) the Blaze.

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                Man_of_Faith
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                What kind of missiles, HP_TECH? And who are those devils?

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                  Bender
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                  675

                  Walaqad zayyanna alssamaa alddunya bimasabeeha wajaAAalnaha rujooman lilshshayateeni waaAAtadna lahum AAathaba alssaAAeeri

                  And certainly We have beautified the heaven nearest with lamps, and We have made them (as) missiles for the devils, and We have prepared for them punishment (of) the Blaze.

                  Hi,

                  675 "...We have made them..."

                  I read it like this "...We made her..." where "her = samaa"

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                    parvez_mushtaq
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                    675

                    Walaqad zayyanna alssamaa alddunya bimasabeeha wajaAAalnaha rujooman lilshshayateeni waaAAtadna lahum AAathaba alssaAAeeri

                    And certainly We have beautified the heaven nearest with lamps, and We have made them (as) missiles for the devils, and We have prepared for them punishment (of) the Blaze.

                    Exactly HP_T ,this was the verse that is mention in that video in my post below

                    ;;;;;;;;;

                    watch this video(click) at least for 10 mins and you will wonder about the mention of the verse 55.35.i think this is mention at 9.20th minute

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                      parvez_mushtaq
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                      There is no coincidences in the Qur'an, every word and sentence have his significance.

                      Even if the man never landed in the Moon, it still be a prophecy.

                      It is a coincidence. Understand, there are newsworthy events every day. There are a lot of verses in the Quran. With such a high sample size, coincidences are bound to happen.Moreover .in the same year ,Russia made 5 unsuccessful lunar unmanned landings and one successful unmanned landing .your so called manned lunar landing was not the only one . do you have any connection regarding all these 7 landing in Quran .Just give me another verse to support all these seven lunar missions .

                      Advice to you Parvez I strong advice you to register to a more appropriate Forum for people who believe in flat earths.... You will join people who have an affinity with the great scholars of this Ummah, like Albani, Baaz, ibn al-Uthaymn, Taimiyya , etc like this one http//www.salafitalk.com/forum.php

                      your advice worth rotfl
                      i somehow have a feeling that you are brand ambassador for all salafi links you keep on posting here on this forum .you simply spam each and every of your post by a salafi link .i think, if i am correct your salafi inks may exceed your number of posts you made here .
                      watch out this formula
                      salafi links posted by you > 167 (your total number of posts here on FM).....keep it on ....good job LITW bravo

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                        lostINtheWORLD
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                        It is a coincidence

                        Yeah, surely )

                        Understand, there are newsworthy events every day. There are a lot of verses in the Quran. With such a high sample size, coincidences are bound to happen. Moreover .in the same year ,Russia made 5 unsuccessful lunar unmanned landings and one successful unmanned landing .your so called manned lunar landing was not the only one . do you have any connection regarding all these 7 landing in Quran .Just give me another verse to support all these seven lunar missions .your advice worth rotfl

                        Who says that the Qur'an must contains verses related to every lunar missions? I think that with one is more than enough

                        rotfl

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                          HP_TECH
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                          Hi,

                          675 "...We have made them..."

                          I read it like this "...We made her..." where "her = samaa"

                          You read it wrong.

                          What you say makes absolutely no sense.

                          I don't get why you are trying to reword this very clear ayaat...

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                            imrankhawaja
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                            word zeena derived from zeenat which means decorated, beautified, adorn,

                            for urdu speakers, zeenat mean, araish, husun o singhar, banawat, etc something like that.

                            peace

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                              lostINtheWORLD
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                              word zeena derived from zeenat which means decorated, beautified, adorn,

                              for urdu speakers, zeenat mean, araish, husun o singhar, banawat, etc something like that.

                              peace

                              Imran are you Pakistani? I thought you was Egyptian wow

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                                Bender
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                                You read it wrong.

                                What you say makes absolutely no sense.

                                I don't get why you are trying to reword this very clear ayaat...

                                Hi,

                                To be exact it is referring to "alssamaa alddunya"

                                675

                                RED HA is in terms of mas/fem a feminine word/expression and singular. There are not much options to choose from than "alssamaa alddunya".

                                Still not agreeing?

                                peace

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                                  Jafar
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                                  aww i remember, i was watching a documentry deep sea creatures it was amazing , before 1970 it was almost impossible for human to go under deep sea where the pressure of water weight will mess you up, so after advancement in tecnology they achieve it and they feel really scared while exploring deep sea where spectrum of light cannot cross, but here i must say subhanAllah there are creations(aquqatic animals) there that produce their own light , i was amazed , the creatures i see i only say one thing at that time, its only Allah who can make these creatures, when the first mission of deep sea happen they was thhinking no sign of life can exist under sea becoz due to the pressure of water underneath, but they see lot of living creatures with tremendous features,

                                  This universe is full of wonder... and as time progress it will be revealed..
                                  The underwater life is just a very tiny fraction of wonder available in this universe..
                                  Very soon another 'strange' life form will also be revealed..

                                  Thus how could anyone say that God's revelation has ended 1400 years ago?

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                                    HP_TECH
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                                    Hi,

                                    To be exact it is referring to "alssamaa alddunya"

                                    675

                                    RED HA is in terms of mas/fem a feminine word/expression and singular. There are not much options to choose from than "alssamaa alddunya".

                                    Still not agreeing?

                                    peace

                                    I don't get what you are advocating for.
                                    There is only one way to interpret this and it is demonstrated by MANY more ayaatin like it.
                                    It is a reoccurring theme in the Quran which cannot be dismissed.
                                    Maybe I am just not understanding what your comment is conveying, what is your overall interpretation of this ayaat?

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                                      Bender
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                                      I don't get what you are advocating for.
                                      There is only one way to interpret this and it is demonstrated by MANY more ayaatin like it.
                                      It is a reoccurring theme in the Quran which cannot be dismissed.
                                      Maybe I am just not understanding what your comment is conveying, what is your overall interpretation of this ayaat?

                                      I could be wrong but I thought that in your translation the THEM in "...We have made them..." is referring to "lamps".
                                      If that is indeed the case, then that is imo not correct.
                                      The HA () is fem. and singular, "lamps" is mas. and plural.
                                      And yes I know that like all translations do this "them" translation, but I think that is wrong.

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                                        HP_TECH
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                                        I could be wrong but I thought that in your translation the THEM in "...We have made them..." is referring to "lamps".
                                        If that is indeed the case, then that is imo not correct.
                                        The HA () is fem. and singular, "lamps" is mas. and plural.
                                        And yes I know that like all translations do this "them" translation, but I think that is wrong.

                                        Yes I am aware of it look at free-minds translation

                                        675 And We have adorned the lower heaven with lamps, and We made it with projectiles against the devils; and We prepared for them the retribution of the blazing Fire.

                                        It makes no difference to the message being conveyed in the ayaat.

                                        Why don't we focus on the actual meaning implied shall we?
                                        I will ask again to you and whoever else is reading what is your interpretation of this ayaat?

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                                          Bender
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                                          Yes I am aware of it look at free-minds translation

                                          675 And We have adorned the lower heaven with lamps, and We made it with projectiles against the devils; and We prepared for them the retribution of the blazing Fire.

                                          It makes no difference to the message being conveyed in the ayaat.

                                          RED You can not be serious about this.

                                          Why don't we focus on the actual meaning implied shall we?
                                          I will ask again to you and whoever else is reading what is your interpretation of this ayaat?

                                          To formulate it with the words used in your translation, it should be read something like this imo

                                          And certainly We have beautified the nearest heaven with lamps, and We have made the nearest heaven a ruzjuman for devils, and We have prepared for the devils a punishment (of) the Blaze.

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