Important Statement made by EX-evolutionist Dr. Gary Parker
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Again you assume naievely like other creationist that Theory of Evolution is complete! How can it be? Scientist have a very long way to go.
Khi- The Creationists n i never assume tht the theory of evolution is complete. We know tht it is false, fraudulous n corrupt. N the claim tht "scientists" have a very long way 2 go is always an easy way out 4 evolutionists.
What you have given here is the next challenge for Evolutionary scientist to determine biochemical nature of Evolution. Scientist have only just begun in this challenging area.
Because scientist have no explanation for it now does not mean that it can never be explained...
Regards,
Khi- Ok lets see wht fraud n menace theyll come up with this time. However the truth will stand out clear by GOD
Whatever argument they come up with, we provide you with the truth, and a better understanding.
For He has decreed that the truth shall prevail, and the falsehood shall vanish, in spite of the evildoers.
Proclaim, "The truth has prevailed, and falsehood has vanished; falsehood will inevitably vanish."
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you wrote
"Khi- The Creationists n i never assume tht the theory of evolution is complete. We know tht it is false, fraudulous n corrupt. N the claim tht "scientists" have a very long way 2 go is always an easy way out 4 evolutionists."Obviously you don't even understand what a scientific truth is do you? Science is a accumulative effort unlike scripture which is absolute truth to believers. And indeed science has long way to go to explain the workings of the universe is NOT a way out but it is the truth, if you can't see that then you have very blinkered view of science...
you wrote
"Khi- Ok lets see wht fraud n menace theyll come up with this time. However the truth will stand out clear by GOD"That's the Creationist get out clause "Invoke God" when you are stuck!
How did the Grand Canyon get created? It was created by receding tide after the Flood and all the fossils was washed up when the waters drained away!
Earth is only 6000 years old and the rainbow is God's bow... yep lets not use our God-given reason to arrive at an understanding but Invoke God to explain it all - how lazy of you. God even tells you to use reason and you can't even follow this one command ! -)
There is never been antagonism in Islam between science and religion but people like you and Yahya are bent on creating one, just like the Fundamentalist Christians. It is only Christianity that is undermined by progress of Science not Islam...
Regards,
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you wrote
"Khi- The Creationists n i never assume tht the theory of evolution is complete. We know tht it is false, fraudulous n corrupt. N the claim tht "scientists" have a very long way 2 go is always an easy way out 4 evolutionists."Obviously you don't even understand what a scientific truth is do you? Science is a accumulative effort unlike scripture which is absolute truth to believers. And indeed science has long way to go to explain the workings of the universe is NOT a way out but it is the truth, if you can't see that then you have very blinkered view of science...
you wrote
"Khi- Ok lets see wht fraud n menace theyll come up with this time. However the truth will stand out clear by GOD"That's the Creationist get out clause "Invoke God" when you are stuck!
How did the Grand Canyon get created? It was created by receding tide after the Flood and all the fossils was washed up when the waters drained away!
Earth is only 6000 years old and the rainbow is God's bow... yep lets not use our God-given reason to arrive at an understanding but Invoke God to explain it all - how lazy of you. God even tells you to use reason and you can't even follow this one command ! -)
There is never been antagonism in Islam between science and religion but people like you and Yahya are bent on creating one, just like the Fundamentalist Christians. It is only Christianity that is undermined by progress of Science not Islam...
Regards,
Khi- The Quran does by no means support evolution, which is an imaginary fairy tale process. I can only repeat tht. As i said i do not necessary endorse all of Dr. Kent's views but i stand by his viewpoint on Creation n Intelligent Design coz this is an inevitable scientific truth which can be witnessed in every creation. Evolutionists degrade this perfect design by making false claims n propganda. I can understand tht this is not going 2 get out of ur head so easily since these ppl have spoent billions n billions of Dollars 2 fool the ppl n unfortunately u r one of them. I live in Germany u know. Whenever i open a TV channel or read the news there is an article abt evolution "science" in one form or the other. Yet as i read the very 1st sentences i start laughing at the absurdities. These ppl twist things into a self made up "complexity" n thereby want 2 impress the audience. This is not science. This is DECEPTION. Dont allow urself 2 be deceived. Evolution=Darwinism=Communism=Eradication of inferior human races. Creationism=Intelligent Design=Love n respect 4 all ppl n creatures. See the difference? GOD Bless!
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you wrote
"Khi- The Quran does by no means support evolution, which is an imaginary fairy tale process. I can only repeat tht. As i said i do not necessary endorse all of Dr. Kent's views but i stand by his viewpoint on Creation n Intelligent Design coz this is an inevitable scientific truth which can be witnessed in every creation. Evolutionists degrade this perfect design by making false claims n propganda. I can understand tht this is not going 2 get out of ur head so easily since these ppl have spoent billions n billions of Dollars 2 fool the ppl n unfortunately u r one of them. I live in Germany u know. Whenever i open a TV channel or read the news there is an article abt evolution "science" in one form or the other. Yet as i read the very 1st sentences i start laughing at the absurdities. These ppl twist things into a self made up "complexity" n thereby want 2 impress the audience. This is not science. This is DECEPTION. Dont allow urself 2 be deceived. Evolution=Darwinism=Communism=Eradication of inferior human races. Creationism=Intelligent Design=Love n respect 4 all ppl n creatures. See the difference? GOD Bless!"Earth is 6000 years old and thats a inevitable scientific truth?
you wrote
"Evolution=Darwinism=Communism=Eradication of inferior human races. Creationism=Intelligent Design=Love n respect 4 all ppl n creatures. See the difference?"This is nonsense. Science has no morality of its own. I have told you before. Only human being can act morrally or immorally. But if you don't want to use your God-given reason then thats up to you but I telly you you are decieving yourself by taking non scientist like Dr. Kent seriously. At least listen to a proper "Creationist" scientist like Micheal Behe.
Regards,
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Earth is 6000 years old and thats a inevitable scientific truth?
Khi- Ive told u many times now tht i dont endorse all of Kent's views neither Harun's. Dont u get this.
This is nonsense. Science has no morality of its own. I have told you before. Only human being can act morrally or immorally. But if you don't want to use your God-given reason then thats up to you but I telly you you are decieving yourself by taking non scientist like Dr. Kent seriously. At least listen to a proper "Creationist" scientist like Micheal Behe.
Regards,
Khi- False. Psedoscience like evolution does. They r racists though ofcourse they dont admit this at the outset. Hitler acted openly on evolution eradicating the sick n leaving only the good pure gened ppl survive. As far as Behe is concerned yes hes a biologist supporting Intelligent Design but u dont even seem 2 agree with him on tht. GOD Bless!
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you wrote
"Khi- False. Psedoscience like evolution does. They r racists though ofcourse they dont admit this at the outset. Hitler acted openly on evolution eradicating the sick n leaving only the good pure gened ppl survive. As far as Behe is concerned yes hes a biologist supporting Intelligent Design but u dont even seem 2 agree with him on tht. GOD Bless!"Hitler acted imorrally, not science. Science created the atom bomb but it was human who acted imorally by exploding it over nagasaki and hiroshima. But I think the problem you have idmkhizar, I think, is that you take implications of science to be morality. But why? Science is always neutral, it we that either use wisely science or abuse it very badly but it us who can act in this way.
As for Behe - he has good arguments and those arguments are very valid scientific arguments. Scientists can engage with him intellectually. I can see he has good arguments because I have no prejuidice and I can look at things objectively...
Regards,
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Dear LoteTree,
I would like to make you aware as I feel it is relevant in the bigger picture (and not for character assasination purposes) that Khizar also believes in Uri Geller as the real deal.
It might shed some light on his blind faith in charlatans and disregard of rationality even when repeatedly invited to it.
He was unable to defend his man, Uri Geller when I showed him a video of how he (Uri) behaved when challenged to do his super-dooper-paranormal thing on the (late) Johnny Carson's show in the 80's.
Regards.
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Dear LoteTree,
I would like to make you aware as I feel it is relevant in the bigger picture (and not for character assasination purposes) that Khizar also believes in Uri Geller as the real deal.
It might shed some light on his blind faith in charlatans and disregard of rationality even when repeatedly invited to it.
He was unable to defend his man, Uri Geller when I showed him a video of how he (Uri) behaved when challenged to do his super-dooper-paranormal thing on the (late) Johnny Carson's show in the 80's.
Regards.
eh... When did you do this?
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Link plz?
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Hitler acted imorrally, not science. Science created the atom bomb but it was human who acted imorally by exploding it over nagasaki and hiroshima. But I think the problem you have idmkhizar, I think, is that you take implications of science to be morality. But why? Science is always neutral, it we that either use wisely science or abuse it very badly but it us who can act in this way.
Khi- Yes science shld be neutral but evolutionist "science" is not. Thts the whole pt. They adopted forgeries n propganda 2 spread their false views. thts y Creationists like Kent call evolution a relgion n NOT science. GOT tht?
As for Behe - he has good arguments and those arguments are very valid scientific arguments. Scientists can engage with him intellectually. I can see he has good arguments because I have no prejuidice and I can look at things objectively...
Regards,
Khi- So then i guess u shld be supporting Creation instead of evolution. GOD Bless!
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Here is one on the general discussion board
http//19.org/forum/index.php?t=msg&goto=18687&rid=0&S=9a82097667239a037a9cbf9614eb8692#msg_18687
I requested a move of 4 or 5 other related (spam) threads to the trash on the same forum where you can now find them if you wish.
Regards.
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Dear LoteTree,
I would like to make you aware as I feel it is relevant in the bigger picture (and not for character assasination purposes) that Khizar also believes in Uri Geller as the real deal.
It might shed some light on his blind faith in charlatans and disregard of rationality even when repeatedly invited to it.
He was unable to defend his man, Uri Geller when I showed him a video of how he (Uri) behaved when challenged to do his super-dooper-paranormal thing on the (late) Johnny Carson's show in the 80's.
Regards.
Khi- Is saw tht tape bro. Plz dont accuse me of such. Ofcourse if u have a chance 4 preparation then such is possible. However at the live experiment show here in germany Uri performed under CONTROLLED conditions n thts y i think tht the probability of him being a fake is quite low. Yet there were skeptics but i did not find their arguments convincing. I think i gave the link 2 the channel on 19.org. But this has nothing 2 do with my stand on Creation which is of utmost importance 2 me n 2 anyone who truly believes in GOD. GOD Bless!
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Well Khizar if you review the thread on 19.org where I pointed you to James Randi, you said he was not to be trusted because he believed in evolution.
Is that not enough of a reason to raise it? Is that really a criteria for searching for truth? To distrust someone who accepts evolution?
You need to deprogram your prejudiced views and try to see things in a balanced way. Don't blindly follow - you are making many blunders and exposing yourself as foolish.
Regards.
BTW Johnny Carson's show where Uri Geller was told to select whatever trick he wanted to do with DEFINITELY UNTAMPERED spoons etc. was a CONTROLLED situation.
Uri was embarassed and unable to do anything because he got negative vibes or some other excuse which I can't recall now.
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Well Khizar if you review the thread on 19.org where I pointed you to James Randi, you said he was not to be trusted because he believed in evolution.
Is that not enough of a reason to raise it? Is that really a criteria for searching for truth? To distrust someone who accepts evolution?
You need to deprogram your prejudiced views and try to see things in a balanced way. Don't blindly follow - you are making many blunders and exposing yourself as foolish.
Regards.
Khi- I don follow anyone/thing blindly. I do study n examine it very carefully n i know 4 sure tht most, if not all, evolutionists r materialistic ppl. They bother only abt this world n not the hereafter.
BTW Johnny Carson's show where Uri Geller was told to select whatever trick he wanted to do with DEFINITELY UNTAMPERED spoons etc. was a CONTROLLED situation.
Uri was embarassed and unable to do anything because he got negative vibes or some other excuse which I can't recall now.
Khi- I saw tht too but it is possible tht he had a bad day or was under pressure. I wldnt have believed Uri had such abilities wld i not have seen this live experiment show in Germany in 2004. GOD Bless!
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Hello Truth,
I have just had a quick look at the 19.org for Uri Geller threads.
I feel that I have wasted my time -(
Regards,