Sura AlFatiha revised
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Elided Verb The elevated Messenger of Allah the Exalted pronounced
"Ar'Reh'maan the Personal Name of Allah the Exalted is the recourse-resort to activation.
Ar'Reh'maan is eternally the Fountain of Infinite Mercy".
Statistical Information
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Preposition 1 Inseparable preposition
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All words are Nouns 4 (i) One common noun (ii) Two Proper Nouns; (iii) One Hyperbolic Participle/Intensive Adjective
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Prepositional Phrase 1
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Possessive Phrase 1
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Adjectival Phrase 1
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Grammatical Units 2
Features
Elliptical sentence
Simple; Declarative of universal import beyond time and space.Sentence recurrence (1)11(2)2730=2
Summary
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The first Ayah comprises of a simple elliptical sentence; semantically it is declarative expressing a fact that is not bound in time and space. It is as such even before the physical realm was made to take existence.
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Its four words comprise of a preposition and four nouns. Pedagogical lesson is to first learn about prepositions and nouns and their mutual differences. It has all the three more common phrases in languages. The second pedagogical lesson is to learn identifying phrases in the Divine Discourse which can conveniently be distinguished visually.
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All translations are erroneous that render the Proper Noun http//haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.%20Tabweeb/00003.%20Ar%20Rehman/2.gif as adjectival.
Reading text is a cognitive process of decoding symbols in order to construct or derive meaning in written text.
Dear Mazhar Noorani, either you didn't understand the question or you are playing na?ve.
Question was about syntax and very simple one liner. Please share a syntax rule of the language that affirms that a 'Prepositional phrase" can be used as subject of the sentence in said language. There is NONE. However, once pointed out. Like always traditionalist will invent one soon. Instead of realizing their mistakes.
Thanks anyway for your effort.
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Dear Mazhar Noorani, either you didn't understand the question or you are playing na?ve.
Question was about syntax and very simple one liner. Please share a syntax rule of the language that affirms that a 'Prepositional phrase" can be used as subject of the sentence in said language. There is NONE. However, once pointed out. Like always traditionalist will invent one soon. Instead of realizing their mistakes.
Thanks anyway for your effort.
Your mental problem is that you read not except that is already trapped in your mind.
Again see Features
Elliptical sentence
Simple; Declarative of universal import beyond time and space.And later in the link
These two words constitute the first grammatical unit . It comprises of a Prepositional Phrase + Possessive Phrase. The learned grammarians lay the principle that a Prepositional Phrase in Arabic is neither the Subject nor the predicate of a sentence. It relates to either. Therefore, a verb-verbal noun is understood and conveniently estimated before this phrase. We need a citation for a statement. A written word or a statement is firstly spoken by someone; thereby it is reiterated in time and space. We know the Person who orally and in writing communicated the Parlance?the Discourse?verbal Message of Allah the Exalted that we are reading and trying to translate and comprehend in target language English. Therefore, the elided Verb before the statement of universal import that can most appropriately be estimated is "Muhammad Sal'lallaa'hoalaih'wa'salam, the elevated Messenger of Allah the Exalted Pronounced that------". The structure of sentence is simple and is of declarative type. -
Yes you have totally misunderstood. I haven't made any dictionary of mine yet. I am trying to understand Quran based upon it's dictionary and grammar. There is NO deity in Quran whether be for worship or NOT worship.
If there is no deity in the quran for worship then why do you insist in translating it in such way?
It's like you translate "woman" with "female human being who does not deserves to get discriminated by men".
It's nothing more then extra information which has nothing to do with the definition of the word. -
revised translations of some common words..
SONG= sound created by piano,drum beats, with human voice who have abilty to make his voice in such a way the audience will get amazed.
BOOK= a collection of multiple pages from table of contents to preface up to the topics that are written by qualified person for audience to get lessons.
SCHOOL= a place where we get education along with other age group kids from teachers who make us understand what is the meaning of life and how we will educate ourselves through books..
and many more ....
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Your mental problem is that you read not except that is already trapped in your mind.
Again see Features
Elliptical sentence
Simple; Declarative of universal import beyond time and space.And later in the link
These two words constitute the first grammatical unit . It comprises of a Prepositional Phrase + Possessive Phrase. The learned grammarians lay the principle that a Prepositional Phrase in Arabic is neither the Subject nor the predicate of a sentence. It relates to either. Therefore, a verb-verbal noun is understood and conveniently estimated before this phrase. We need a citation for a statement. A written word or a statement is firstly spoken by someone; thereby it is reiterated in time and space. We know the Person who orally and in writing communicated the Parlance?the Discourse?verbal Message of Allah the Exalted that we are reading and trying to translate and comprehend in target language English. Therefore, the elided Verb before the statement of universal import that can most appropriately be estimated is "Muhammad Sal'lallaa'hoalaih'wa'salam, the elevated Messenger of Allah the Exalted Pronounced that------". The structure of sentence is simple and is of declarative type.Mazhar, do you know what an elliptical sentence means even in English. Where this concept belongs, please look it up. Until one will not understand the real meanings of word Allah. I am sure there is no way to understand the real meanings of Quran. So please go back and carefully look this up. If want to understand, you should be able to.
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9599853.110
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Mazhar, do you know what an elliptical sentence means even in English. Where this concept belongs, please look it up. Until one will not understand the real meanings of word Allah. I am sure there is no way to understand the real meanings of Quran. So please go back and carefully look this up. If want to understand, you should be able to.
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9599853.110
Dear, you keep changing your steps like dancing on a floor. Elliptical is defined in preface, and also when a word can be elided in a sentence.
Allah is Proper Noun. Learn how proper nouns are used in texts and how are they identified. Rest is just non sense that you can speak volumes but that will remain rubbish.
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Dear, you keep changing your steps like dancing on a floor. Elliptical is defined in preface, and also when a word can be elided in a sentence.
Allah is Proper Noun. Learn how proper nouns are used in texts and how are they identified. Rest is just non sense that you can speak volumes but that will remain rubbish.
Dear, isn't it better to be on the dance floor than to be stuck in the middle of a puddle of dirty mud?
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With all due respect, Mazhar. Allah is NOT a proper noun. A proper noun you do not place AL before. Look at any name of prophets in Quran and you will never see an AL attached to the word. If you use AL on a proper noun (for some reason) you write them apart, e.g. . This is because AL creates an adjectival word. means Like Ferauoon in one occasion when it is used in chapter 2.
AL can never be a proper noun and many occasions in the Quran where it is allegedly called a name it is not, that is the rules of the grammar.
Be well
Amenuel -
brother ammanuel,
can you give me a favour , in simple precise form , what is the meaning of Allah according to you. I still dnt understand . is Allah a different from rehman Raheem rab ,lord , cherisher, beneficent, hakeem ,aleem, or whatever name that address to the owner of universe.. first explain me meanings then explain me what is the difference , it will help me understand lot of things
peace and God bless you
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With all due respect, Mazhar. Allah is NOT a proper noun. A proper noun you do not place AL before.
Please study the types of Definite article. For some relative pronouns and proper names it is inseparable intrinsic part of word.
Also see how a proper noun is identified in texts. You will find it ONLY as proper noun wherever it occurs in Grand Qur'aan.
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Your mental problem is that you read not except that is already trapped in your mind.
Again see Features
Elliptical sentence
Simple; Declarative of universal import beyond time and space.And later in the link
These two words constitute the first grammatical unit . It comprises of a Prepositional Phrase + Possessive Phrase. The learned grammarians lay the principle that a Prepositional Phrase in Arabic is neither the Subject nor the predicate of a sentence. It relates to either. Therefore, a verb-verbal noun is understood and conveniently estimated before this phrase. We need a citation for a statement. A written word or a statement is firstly spoken by someone; thereby it is reiterated in time and space. We know the Person who orally and in writing communicated the Parlance?the Discourse?verbal Message of Allah the Exalted that we are reading and trying to translate and comprehend in target language English. Therefore, the elided Verb before the statement of universal import that can most appropriately be estimated is "Muhammad Sal'lallaa'hoalaih'wa'salam, the elevated Messenger of Allah the Exalted Pronounced that------". The structure of sentence is simple and is of declarative type.Mazhar,
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I am unable to find any reference whatsoever in an authentic grammar reference that confirms that an elliptical sentence was a known concept at the time of writing of grammar rules. If you have one, kindly share.
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Kindly also share reference that confirms that a prepositional phrase can be part of a possessive phrase as . Which is what your explanation is implying for "Bismi".
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Mazhar,
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I am unable to find any reference whatsoever in an authentic grammar reference that confirms that an elliptical sentence was a known concept at the time of writing of grammar rules. If you have one, kindly share.
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Kindly also share reference that confirms that a prepositional phrase can be part of a possessive phrase as . Which is what your explanation is implying for "Bismi".
Arabic has always been a pro-drop language.
Bismi is linked with Allah; thus it is a grammatical unit comprising of a prepositional phrase and possessive phrase.
Summary
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The first Ayah comprises of a simple elliptical sentence; semantically it is declarative expressing a fact that is not bound in time and space. It is as such even before the physical realm was made to take existence.
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Its four words comprise of a preposition and four nouns. Pedagogical lesson is to first learn about prepositions and nouns and their mutual differences. It has all the three more common phrases in languages. The second pedagogical lesson is to learn identifying phrases in the Divine Discourse which can conveniently be distinguished visually.
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All translations are erroneous that render the Proper Noun http//haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.%20Tabweeb/00003.%20Ar%20Rehman/2.gif as adjectival.
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Just see the text and read any grammar book about possessive phrase. Visual mark is genitive case of the second noun. First noun never has definite article or tanween. And always keep in mind that Arabic nouns in default state are always nominative. If any noun is in accusative or genitive case, it is because of the influence of preceding word.
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Just see the text and read any grammar book about possessive phrase. Visual mark is genitive case of the second noun. First noun never has definite article or tanween. And always keep in mind that Arabic nouns in default state are always nominative. If any noun is in accusative or genitive case, it is because of the influence of preceding word.
This wasn't even the issue. I asked you a reference for following
- Kindly also share reference that confirms that a prepositional phrase can be part of a possessive phrase as . Which is what your explanation is implying for "Bismi".