Anger, Wrath, Revenge, and God
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Peace LastDay3.
Why should we expect any mercy?
We know "humans" are anything but , yet all of us expect GOD to be Merciful!!!!Some may argue "why were they created as "humans"? Did they have the choice? Is it fair?
GOD s message reminds us why! We already had a chance ,yet we rebelled,doubted, arrogantly denied that GOD Alone is the only authority.King,Judge,Creator, Protector,...The Most Gracious, The most Merciful,...
Yet we still deny! We still DISBELIEVE!!... Qoran reminds the "Believers" to repent, be patient and kill that arrogant "ego" i.e Take this chance given by the Most Merciful
"Whoever is spared (the retribution), on that day, has attained His mercy. And this is the greatest triumph."
He is the One who helps you, together with His angels, to lead you out of darkness into the light. He is Most Merciful towards the believers.
Do not corrupt the earth after it has been set straight, and serve/worship Him out of reverence, and out of hope. Surely, God's mercy is attainable by the righteous.
Those who believe in God, and hold fast to Him, He will admit them into mercy from Him, and grace, and will guide them to Him in a straight path.
This too is a blessed scripture that we have revealed; you shall follow it and lead a righteous life, that you may attain mercy.
.... He said, "My retribution befalls whomever I will. But My mercy encompasses all things. However, I will specify it for those who (1) lead a righteous life, (2) give the Zakat, (3) believe in our revelations.
Why should those who disbelieve,doubt...GOD expect anything. Let their pride and arrogance -"ego"- lead them to wherever they want to go. Let their "gods"- Idols"-"egos"- rescue them from their ears and look after them.. Wishful thinking indeed!
I know, some will come back here arguing this further. Sooner -rather than later- the arguments will run out ,they will avail no one nor will the excuses.
Only the Lord /Creator and the truth will remain. Everything else will vanish like a mirage.
Wake up, humans ! Prepare to meet your Lord. The Most Gracious, The Most Merciful.
Time is always running out.
Praise be to GOD Alone, Lord o the universe.
GOD bless you.
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Peace everyone,
Just found a verse in the quran relevant to the topic
3357 Surely those who harm God and His messenger, God will curse them in this world and in the hereafter; and He has prepared for them a shameful retribution.
How can God be harmed? And once God is harmed, God curses them and they will have shameful retribution in hereafter.
The root Hamza-Thal-Ya also has meanings of hurt, annoy, molest (could not find this root in Project Root List). Even if the word is translated as "annoy", how can God be annoyed? Surely God is all-knowing and will know even before someone tries to annoy/harm/hurt God and will prevent it.
Free minds Quran translation needs to be changed to "annoy" as at least it does not result in a completely nonsensical translation.
Peace
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Peace everyone,
Just found a verse in the quran relevant to the topic
3357 Surely those who harm God and His messenger, God will curse them in this world and in the hereafter; and He has prepared for them a shameful retribution.
How can God be harmed? And once God is harmed, God curses them and they will have shameful retribution in hereafter.
The root Hamza-Thal-Ya also has meanings of hurt, annoy, molest (could not find this root in Project Root List). Even if the word is translated as "annoy", how can God be annoyed? Surely God is all-knowing and will know even before someone tries to annoy/harm/hurt God and will prevent it.
Free minds Quran translation needs to be changed to "annoy" as at least it does not result in a completely nonsensical translation.
Peace
peace be with you, alot of the 'free minds' interpretation is nonsensical, or innaccurate... some verses do not even remotely reflect what the arabic is saying.
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Peace,
Peace everyone,
Just found a verse in the quran relevant to the topic
3357 Surely those who harm God and His messenger, God will curse them in this world and in the hereafter; and He has prepared for them a shameful retribution.
How can God be harmed? And once God is harmed, God curses them and they will have shameful retribution in hereafter.
The root Hamza-Thal-Ya also has meanings of hurt, annoy, molest (could not find this root in Project Root List). Even if the word is translated as "annoy", how can God be annoyed? Surely God is all-knowing and will know even before someone tries to annoy/harm/hurt God and will prevent it.
Free minds Quran translation needs to be changed to "annoy" as at least it does not result in a completely nonsensical translation.
Peace
Good find.
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Peace Truthseeker.
For me it is neither harm nor annoy or "Yudhuna" in 3357.
Try the word "oppose"
3357 Those who oppose GOD and His messenger....GOD bless you.
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Peace Truthseeker.
For me it is neither harm nor annoy or "Yudhuna" in 3357.
Try the word "oppose"
3357 Those who oppose GOD and His messenger....GOD bless you.
Peace.That fits great for the verse. bravo bravo bravo
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Peace good logic,
While you are at it, why don't you change the Arabic word as well? What you just did is inexcusable and is not good logic but the worst logical fallacy. This is how people invent a fabrication and others blindly follow and clap. Nice nope
This is proof that someone realizes the Arabic makes no sense and then deliberately invents/fabricates/twists the meaning to make sense.
The word used for oppose in the quran is "haadda" from the root Ha-Dal-Dal (5820-22, 585, 963)
5820 Surely, those who YUHAADDUN/"oppose" God and His messenger, they will be with the lowliest.
5822 You will not find any people who believe in God and the Last Day leaning towards those who HAADDA/"oppose" God and His messenger, .........................
585 Those who YUHAADDUN/"oppose" God and His messenger will be disgraced, like their previous counterparts were disgraced. We have sent down clear proofs, and the rejecters have incurred a shameful retribution.
963 Did they not know that whoever YUHAADIDI/"opposes" God and His messenger, he will have the fire of Hell, abiding therein. Such is the greatest humiliation.
The quran does not run out of words and has the word for oppose in its vocabulary and would have used that word in 3357 if it meant "oppose". The quran CONSISTENTLY uses words derived from "Ha-Dal-Dal" when it means "oppose".
THE ROOT "HAMZA-THAL-YA" DOES NOT MEAN OPPOSE IN ANY OF ITS MEANINGS.
Please do not invent/fabricate/twist meanings to deceive/mislead/misguide others.
378 And from among them is a group who twist their tongues with the Book so that you may think it is from the Book, while it is not from the Book, and they say it is from God while it is not from God, and they say about God lies while they know.
Peace
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Just letting you guys know i cant speak or read arabic sorry if i made a mistake.
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Peace.
Peace the word I believe is indeed "harm" however the context
is harm which is done with the mouth! I think we all agree that
we cannot harm Allah, we can only harm Allah in the eyes/mind
of others.33/57 Indeed, those who harm Allah and His Messenger (with their mouths)
Allah has cursed them in this world and the Hereafter and prepared for
them a humiliating punishment.33/58 And those who harm believing men and believing women (with their mouths)
for other than what they have earned have certainly born upon themselves
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Peace Truthseeker.
You find contradictions and difficulties in Qoran.
I ,opposethat view.However there is no harm in us having a different opinion.GOD bless you.
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Salaam/Peace to All,
yes, we may absolutely have different opinions, yet always remain as brothers/sisters nope handshake yes
So here is how I understand it
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57- Surely those who offend/malign/insult (=yudhoona) AL-LAH and HIS Messenger,
AL-LAH will condemn them in this world and in the Hereafter;
and HE has prepared for them a shameful retribution (=exactly equivalent to the "shame"
they want to bring upon AL-LAH and HIS Messenger by their "offend/malign/insult" above =40/17, 40
if they do not repent and return to HIM till the very end of their normal lifespan here =4/17-1.Remain in peace/salaam.
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Peace All.
So where is the argument?
All these words- Harm/Annoy/Insult/Malign/Offend...Mean one is in opposition with!!!i.e oppose
Also the word "Oppose" summs them up perfectly.
Again my opinion.
GOD bless.
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Peace good logic,
Bad logic as usual. Logical fallacy of unwarranted assumption and false premise.
Someone can hurt/harm others without opposing them, for example setting their house on fire, damaging their car etc. The word in question in 3357 does not mean insult either.
It is nonsense that someone can harm/hurt/annoy God.
Peace
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Peace Truthseeker.
When you say ,quoteSomeone can hurt/harm others without opposing them, for example setting their house on fire, damaging their car etc.
Do you mean by accident?
Because otherwise, they must have some sort of issue with them,hence "in opposition" to them!
GOD bless you.
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I have even sent you 2 PMs, but perhaps due to long time if inactivity, you may have not read them.
I want to contact you, and i hope to learn a lot from you.
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Please do the needful, i will be much obliged.
Peace.
