Bodily Resurrection
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Q3871-72 - And your Rabb said to the Mala?ika ?I am creating a being (bashar) from clay. So when I have (corrected /bettered him), and blown of My Spirit (ruuh) in him, then you shall yield to him...
Q7117-18 - And ALLAH made you grow from the earth as plants. Then HE returns you to it, and He brings you out totally.?
The first Humanoids spawned from ?Earth Embryos? like plants, subsequently, created between the sexual intervention of male and female.
As the Quran says, we were made in stages...
Q4067 - He is the One who created you from DUST, then from a SEED, then from an EMBRYO, then He brings you out as a child, then He lets you reach your maturity, then you become old; and some of you will have their lives terminated before this; and that you may reach an appointed term, and perhaps so you may comprehend...
Our ancestors spawned directly from the earth, then thru sexually interference, the human development from seed then to an embryo and born as a baby. Then we age and dies and bury in the ground. Then we will be resurrected....
Q2055 - From it (the earth) We created you, and in it We return you, and from it We bring you out another time...
The Quran repeatedly mentions that the First Creation is exactly like the Last Creation (?al-nasha?atulakhira?), that is, we will spawn from the face of the earth like our ancestors....
Q21104 - On the Day when We roll up the heavens like the scroll of a book is rolled up. As WE INITIATED THE FIRST CREATION, SO SHALL WE REPEAT IT. It is a promise of Ours that We will surely deliver......
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Q21104 - On the Day when We roll up the heavens like the scroll of a book is rolled up. As WE INITIATED THE FIRST CREATION, SO SHALL WE REPEAT IT. It is a promise of Ours that We will surely deliver......
this quranic verse is much closer to the new theories of time reversal or time travelling... infact on some conditions the scientist now understand it possible to reverse time somehow by rolling the heaven , God knows best..
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new understandings of time travel
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Concerning the first thing you said, if you don't want to participate in the discussion further, you don't have to. ) Thank you for what you have contributed thus far. ^^ I always appreciate your posts.
RED i did not understand it , hmm i never said i m not participating lol
Interesting, so you agree with the theory of time reversal.
i agree there is everything every law is possible for God to get in done.. theories are our understandings of observing things, when we are sure about our theory and discover the law behind anything we give it name a proven fact , with the the help of experiments ..
In the example you mentioned, not even Abraham believed at first that God is capable of all things, and none of us are supposed to blindly accept anything as truth, so I don't see what the issue is with having questions. )
For me, it's confusing particularly when we get into the fact that peoples' bodies are preserved, or not preserved, in different ways. Even bones decay after a certain amount of time. It seems to go against laws that we have discovered so far that the entire population of humankind will physically rise from their graves in different forms all at once on the Day. Logically, wouldn't that mean people would be standing on top of or trampling over one another when they rose?
GREEN i did not say abraham not beleived, he beleived but he wanted a satisfaction... look at the words again plz,
there is no issue having any questions , ask as much you can. issue is when somebody without any proof claim its methphorical , where methphorical does not make sense...
abrham clearly see the event with his eyes.. and again he see the birds comings towards him.. he beleived but when he see with his eyes he get satisfied too...
my grandfather told me there is a treasure under the floor, i believed the words of my grandfatgher but when he show me then i will get satisfied too.. lol thats what God want to tell us there...
and thanx for your aprreciation we should alwasy help eachother for sharing our confusion..
one more thing, dnt you know how old is the body of pharoah... more than 3000 years . is it not saved yet..by the will of God.. laws and restrictions for us, not for God, he can do whatever he wills
blue for this you need to wait for the judgement day and its depend on the limit of vehicles of controllers lol,, i m just kidding when time will reverse its not mean the years become minutes.. the method of ressurection no body have seen so we cannot assume the same laws of time... also apply ,
peace God bless you
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Actually, even movies like Inception and Matrix are material/physical
What's needed is to be in touch with the spiritual side of reality, which is real and objective.
Matrix is like escaping to yet another material/physical world... and is something we can not connect with in reality.
We are in fact stuck here in this fleshy domain, but that's totally OK. We can not think our way out of it, and should not.
However, we need to get in touch with the unseen aspects of reality... so no need for fantasies.Cheers
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Actually, even movies like Inception and Matrix are material/physical
What's needed is to be in touch with the spiritual side of reality, which is real and objective.
Matrix is like escaping to yet another material/physical world... and is something we can not connect with in reality.
We are in fact stuck here in this fleshy domain, but that's totally OK. We can not think our way out of it, and should not.
However, we need to get in touch with the unseen aspects of reality... so no need for fantasies.Cheers
the concept of matrix is somehow similar to body and real self, but problem started when on other dimenshan real self facing bullets and body died in space ship.. its unfair !
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Peace Comrox,
Time travel is not the same as time reversal. The contraction of the universe also does not mean time reversal. In the expansion/contraction model, the expanding universe stops expanding and then matter starts moving in other direction linearly towards the initial point of singularity. For example the whole milky way galaxy is moving away from center of the universe; at some time it will stop moving away from center and start moving towards center (like a bungee cord). That does not mean time reversal, but time will still move in same direction from our perspective. The Earth will still be revolving and rotating in same direction, but the whole solar system instead of moving away from center of galaxy will be moving towards center of galaxy (linearly).
MOST IMPORTANTLY, in reality there is no time from God's perspective. So time reversal makes no sense. God can resurrect or recreate anything without reversing time (from our perspective). 21104 talks about repeating creation the same way it was created before. The previous time it wasn't created by "time reversal" but by an explosion outwards from the singularity. 21104 actually supports contraction/expansion model of the universe (which has nothing to do with time).
There is also no time travel in reality because there is no time from God's perspective. The past, present and future are actually all happening simultaneously. The analogy is of hundreds of radio stations being broadcast simultaneously. What seems like time travel from our perspective, in reality is analogous to dialing to another radio station which is being broadcast simultaneously. By dialing from one radio station to other, we think something is happening in time (past = one station, present = another station just dialed in), but actually they are all being broadcast simultaneously. This is the simplest analogy I can give; the reality is a very difficult concept to grasp.
I would say good verse arguments that the resurrection is physical (bodily) is in the many verses which speak of resurrection/rising from the graves, and 753 "Does the human being think that We will not gather his bones ?"
Agreed those verses point to physical resurrection. PRL is still not complete and doesn't give all meanings of words. Please see Lane's Lexicon for the "bone" meaning
http//www.studyquran.org/LaneLexicon/Volume5/00000372.pdf
What about those people who were cremated or were vaporized in nuclear blast, who are not in graves? Also bones decay after a certain time so even "gather his bones" does not make sense. Surely, the true God would know about that. I find this aspect of the "bone" and "grave" verses troubling.
Ra material says something extremely interesting about victims of a nuclear blast and what would possibly have happened to those souls/spirits if the spirit guardians (controllers) had not intervened in a split second.
There is nothing physical in reality, but while we are in the illusion of physical and illusion of separation from the infinite Creator, no harm discussing in practical physical terms. Otherwise if we always think in terms of non physical reality, then we should stop eating, and while driving we shouldn't care about pedestrians or other traffic "because everything is non physical in reality and we cannot be having fleshy dream" and we will pass right through them. P
Q7117-18 - And ALLAH made you grow from the earth as plants. Then HE returns you to it, and He brings you out totally.?
Hizbullah, thank you for bringing this sign to attention. I had not come across it before.
Wow, Ra material also talks about humans on Earth arising from plants! I was surprised when I read that but the quran says the same thing! The Sirians (the 3rd density human aliens who lived on planet of Sirius star) are supposed to have originated entirely from plants.
Peace
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I am not with him on that, although I have an open mind.
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The Sirians (the 3rd density human aliens who lived on planet of Sirius star) are supposed to have originated entirely from plants.
Peace
as far my humble knowledge in the field of space science , sirius is a star like sun... a gas ball.. oh my God my brother do you think that any scientist ever claim this thing before ,to look for the symptoms of life on star specially star like sirius.. ok what about sirius b. peace
i think you watch ancient aliens a lot lol but we can present a new theory what if there is a creation of fire living there, what we call extraterrestriol.. it might possible.. sun
human aliens= who? half human half alien...