Takes time to reach God?
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Deluded I have used as the kindest kind of way saying someone is confused into believing something to be true while it is not.
It is not of mean intention with how I use it..........
If the case is someone is deluded into believing something it is but fair to the one being deluded to be informed.
I am offering help to avoid the delusion too..........
Be well
AmenuelSalaam/Peace Man of Faith,
thank you very much, my dear Fellow/Friend, for your such kindness and good intention,
with the exact same feelings of kindness and good intention,
and hoping that perhaps I could truly be informative and helpful to you,I have clearly, honestly and straightforwardly related to you this most Essential and important Information,
in my previous post to youSalaam/Peace Man of Faith,
I sincerely and wholeheartedly recommend you, my dear Fellow/Friend, to study and learn
what is a "delusion" and who can rightfully be called as "deluded",
according to QURAN TESTAMENT.Your clear statement in that second quote above (=but the "vibrating strings of energy" are Rabb,)
may be a perfect example to help you clearly understand=what "delusion" is,
=and who can rightfully be called as "deluded",
according to QURAN TESTAMENT (68/6 = 43/15 & 52/43).
So I sincerely and wholeheartedly recommend you, my dear Fellow/Friend, Man of Faith,
to decisively renounce your such clear and deep "delusions" above,
and immediately repent and return to AL-LAH, in this best manner here (=QURAN TESTAMENT 25/70-71),
for your Eternal Salvation and Everlasting Benefits, forever.(=QURAN TESTAMENT 25/68-69-70-71-72-73-74-75-76)
Remain in peace/salaam.
Because no matter how hard Satan may try to distort the Meaning of QURANIC Verses,
in order to be able to deceive you and deceive people to believe that=the "vibrating strings of energy" are Rabb,
you, my dear Fellow/Friend Man of Faith, and also all truthful Believers here as well
who honestly and sincerely seeking The Truth of/in QURAN TESTAMENT
should Never accept such a "Satanic nonsense and blasphemy" here=the "vibrating strings of energy" are Rabb,
which is most clearly, decisively and unmistakably Refuted
in QURAN TESTAMENT here, from the very Beginning (43/15 = 52/43 = 41/37-38).Remain in peace/salaam.
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the "vibrating strings of energy" are Rabb,
nope it cant be.... God is not material based or energy based... or something similar to anything... yeah
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You immediately draw the conclusion I refer to matter. Energy has no mass and is no matter but its manifestation is what we call electric charge. Such charge is generated for example through friction between or within matter.
I can correct the statement more clearly by saying "The manifestation of light is a sign of Rabb, it is what projects the world and giving it solidness as an element of illusion of such world". The " phenomenon" causing the charge of light is what is Rabb.
The world is made of this projected energy and it is not innately visible.
Be well
Amenuel -
some more signs of God..in the shape of verses...
3131 Have you not seen the ships sailing in the sea by the grace of God,
so that He shows you some of His signs? In that are signs for
every one who is patient, thankful.It is He (God) who sends down rain from the sky from it ye drink, and out of it (grows) the vegetation on which ye feed your cattle. With it He produces for you corn, olives, date-palms, grapes and every kind of fruit verily in this is a sign for those who give thought/contemplate . He has made subject to you the Night and the Day; the sun and the moon; and the stars are in subjection by His Command verily in this are signs for men who use their reason/sense (1610-12)
Say, "Look at all the signs in the heavens and the earth." All the proofs and all the warnings can never help people who decided to disbelieve (10101).
there are lot of more signs of God... does it mean these all are Gods...?
electricity is a thing.. generated and created by God... it cannot be God... elektro
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Energy has no mass and is no matter
wind ad air also dnt have mass and matter, but it exist...
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It exists as a phenomenon and it is movement. Basically the friction between matter causes wind to be generated, and that we know from my previous post is energy.
Wind is not matter either, but it causes matter to move.
What did you wish to prove?
Be well
Amenuel -
But you are wrong about something, air or oxygen is a substance.
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When ethereal beings (e.g. angels) interact in the world in their raw form you can observe this in the world like an anomaly in the energy field. The resulting phenomenon will seem like light.
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now you are telling me the properties of unseen items.... can eyes see oxygen?
allright what electric charge the energy have? +ve -ve
which energy kinetic energy, potential energy?
everything you can catagroised which current AC or DC...?
everything can be converted or can change the shape...
but God is not a thing.. thats what i want to prove.. you are just a creature... if you beleive God is creator by default he is not been created by somebody, something, anything anybody... other wise he is also a creature... confused
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When ethereal beings (e.g. angels) interact in the world in their raw form you can observe this in the world like an anomaly in the energy field. The resulting phenomenon will seem like light.
i think heleium is responsible Gas for generating light... angels = helium or i misunderstood
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what is gravity...?
force,
substance
matter
energycan gravity seen by eyes?
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what are balckholes,,,?
strong gravitational pulls even light cannot escape from it... its mean is it not possible for angels or God to pass from blackholes ?
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I do not know if you did not understand me previously, energy is that part of the phenomenon of which we can in some way feel or measure.
Gravity is projected due to the same reason the matter is energized. The core of the Earth with giant levels of various oxides (high density) does have the effect of pulling other mass towards it. There is a whole science behind it, but basically it has to do with the strange "energy radiation" that the universe is made of. Most objects are radioactive to varying degree albeit some more than others.
A black hole is theorized to be the remnant of a disintegrated star. It becomes like an anomaly in space which still pulls objects to it but it does not have a center and objects running into it seem to disappear.
Similarly the end of the universe might probably look like the disintegration of a star, i.e. everything begins to retract in an interesting manner. The Earth will begin to be disintegrated as the molecules with their atoms will be displaced and if you behold a mountain it will seem "messed up".
I think we begin to be quite off topic though.
Be well
Amenuel -
yes my brothher , we are off topic becoz you did not ponder over the signs which i send you in the reply ... 78
light is a sign of God i agree
lot of other things are sign of God i agreewhat i disagree is light or vibrating energy strings cannot be God..
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Yet you do not understand for God sake. I am saying energy is a measurable or sometimes visible phenomenon of God's being. Energy is only a result of raw force. That a human's heart is beating is because of this mysterious force as it to us just seems to simply beat without any other reason than someone decided it would beat.
The to us measurable phenomenon in the heart example is the electric impulse that cause the heart muscle to beat.
I am so scientifically explaining this and yet you repeat the same statement "God is not made of strings of energy". This is also your argument, but try to understand the scientific background which worldly scientists have discovered recently about the world being made from a mysterious force which phenomenon is experienced as energy to us. Energy is just a man-made term.
And did you know you cannot destroy energy as matter it just takes a different form?
Be well
Amenuel -
actually there is something/ force/ energy/ x(unidentified) /y (unexpalinable) /z (unwatchable) whatever you will come up cannot define the nature of God...
its something we can only imagine and we will imagine with the limited mind provided to us... how hard we will try to figure out the nature of God we cannot get results very simple becoz,,, knowlege provided to us or eyes provided to us is limited.. cannot calculate God...
think about moses when he wanted to understand the nature?
and moreover whatever we will imagine is just imagination nothing close to the reality... all theories are just unproveable or on other words just ideas of material mind...
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That is just because God is pure force.
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That is just because God is pure force.
yeh for making our minds understand a force that governs the laws of universe...
the nature of force what we know is far away to compare...
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But the "vibrating strings of energy" are Rabb,
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Be well
Amenuel.........
I can correct the statement more clearly by saying
The " phenomenon" causing the charge of light is what is Rabb..........
Be well
Amenuel.........
The separate one God distinct from us is a religious fabrication.
We are like a drop of the ocean and the ocean is God..........
Be well
AmenuelSalaam/Peace Man of Faith,
I strongly disagree again with all of your such baseless assumptions above;
because in QURAN TESTAMENT
it is most decisively, clearly and unmistakably indicated thatthe "vibrating strings of energy" canNot be RABB,
The " phenomenon" causing the charge of light canNot be RABB,
and
We are like a drop of the ocean, but that ocean canNot be GOD.
because according to QURAN TESTAMENT
the whole Universe/s with
all "vibrating strings of energy" therein are Servant of RABB ,
(=and those "strings" are Not a "portion/share/piece/part" of RABB,
in no way, at all,)QURAN TESTAMENT (17/44 = 19/65) & (43/15 = 41/37-38)
The " phenomenon" causing the charge of light is Servant of RABB,,
(=and that "phenomenon" is Not a "portion/share/piece/part" of RABB,
in no way, at all,)QURAN TESTAMENT (17/44 = 19/65) & (43/15 = 41/37-38)
We are like a drop of the ocean, and that ocean is Servant of GOD.
(=and that "ocean" is Not a "portion/share/piece/part" of RABB,
in no way, at all,QURAN TESTAMENT (17/44 = 19/65) & (43/15 = 41/37-38)
All of those most Critical and fundamental Verses of/in QURAN TESTAMENT,
which clearly and unmistakably teaches and unshakably establishes
each of these "QURANIC Facts" above,
have already clearly and openly been presented, in these previous posts,
hereSalaam/Peace TruthSeeker11,
So please, absolutely hear this
=The Creator (=AL-LAH) is Everywhere
with HIS Limitless & Infinite --(Knowing and Seeing and Hearing and Controlling and Governing and Judging)-- Powers(=QURAN TESTAMENT 2/115 = 6/59 & 57/4 & 58/7 & ............)
but HIS Individual/Personal Presence is absolutely above and beyond all Universe/s and
all Things we can ever imagine, above us,
And for this reason,====================
4- the Angels and the Spirit (=i.e. Gabriel, =16/102) ascend to HIM (=AL-LAH)
in a day whose length/measure is fifty thousand years.(QURAN TESTAMENT 70/4)
all of these Angels together with Gabriel (Peace be upon Him) perfectly leading them above
MUST make this Magnificent Ascent above in 50.000 Years (*please, absolutely see it again in my previous post above)
finally, to be able to ascend to our Lord AL-LAH's Individual/Personal Presence at the end of their Magnificent Ascent above.But
"If the Creator were everywhere with His Individual/Personal/Physical Presence
and so everything were "part" of the Creator in His Individual/Personal/Physical Presence"
(according to your mistaken/wrongful assumption that you keep on repeating above, blindly, again and again, ......)then why all of these Angels together with Gabriel (Peace be upon Him) above
should bother themselves with such a Huge Task of such a Magnificent Ascent
which takes 50.000 Years for them --(it must be unimaginably enormous/immense Journey & Phenomenon for us)--
to be able to ascend to our Lord AL-LAH's Individual/Personal Presence at the end of their Magnificent Ascent above?So, even just this one Verse alone above
clearly and unmistakably proves that all your such assumptions above= "the Creator is everywhere with His Individual/Personal/Physical Presence
and so everything are "part" of the Creator in His Individual/Personal/Physical Presence!"or/and (in other words)
="We are like a drop of the ocean and the ocean is God!"
are fundamentally wrongful/mistaken assumptions, from the very beginning!
And all of your other (basically similar/same type of) mistaken/wrongful assumptions above have already clearly been addressed,
and they have most decisively and unmistakably been refuted
in all of these crystal clear Verses in QURAN TESTAMENT(70/4 = 43/15 & 42/11 & 28/88 & 112/1-4 & ...........)
they are clearly presented here
in each of these previous posts abovehttp//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9608758.msg393331#msg393331
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9608758.msg393391#msg393391
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9608758.msg393592#msg393592
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9608758.msg393671#msg393671
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9608758.msg393723#msg393723
TruthSeeker11, your only enthusiastic supporter/friend here (=Man of Faith) --(who may be
even in much worse condition than you, in this respect),
because you still --mistakenly/wrongfully-- imply that=vibrating strings of energy (and the whole creation and so automatically you yourself) are "part" of God!
*probably, because of such bad "inspirations" of your such bad friends above (=6/112-113) from Galactic Federation and
3 rd density human/jinn aliens > > therein, (=6/112-113)and he may still be --mistakenly/wrongfully-- implying that
=vibrating strings of energy (and the whole creation and so automatically he himself) is God!
*probably, because of such bad "inspirations" of his such bad friends above (=6/112-113) from Galactic Federation and
6 th density human/jinn aliens > > therein. (=6/112-113)But I still and will always truly love both of you and deeply care for both of you,
as my dear Fellow/Friends,
and will again wholeheartedly recommend you
to open your mind and eyes ! ! and read (=QURAN TESTAMENT 6/114)to completely get rid of that satanic influence & intoxication of those
3 rd density or 6 th density human/jinn aliens above (=6/112-113),and all of us immediately and wholeheartedly repent and return to our Lord AL-LAH
here (=QURAN TESTAMENT 6/114),
that we may all together be perfectly Guided and abundantly Blessed by our One and Only Lord AL-LAH,
forever, inshaAL-LAH,here (=QURAN TESTAMENT 25/70-71, 72-76),
as it is honestly, straightforwardly and wholeheartedly recommended
for each and every one of us, also here againhttp//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9608758.msg393722#msg393722
Remain in peace/salaam.
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I told already that Rabb is NOT the vibrating strings of energy. I said that the energy is a projection by the innate force of Rabb.
There are no baseless claims here, they are based on latest empirical research which can prove the outer layer mass is projected by an unknown permanent radiation source. The source seems to simply radiate energy "out of the blue", but obviously it is a manifestation of a powerful force. I did say that the world is made of energy that takes form as matter, the high density matter (high density of energy bound together) is thus solid and the color of things is only an illusion due to that light shines upon the matter which reflects it to various degrees which determine the color of the resulting phenomenon.
Rabb on the other hand is more than merely the energy and I told you the energy is only the resulting component of friction for which you need movement.
Please learn to read.
Be well
Amenuel