Gods "Arsh" - Throne
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An English translation of the Quran - 2255 God, there is no god except He, the Living, the Sustainer. No slumber or sleep overtakes Him; to Him belongs all that is in the heavens and the earth. Who will intercede with Him except with His permission? He knows their present and their future, and they do not have any of His knowledge except for what He wishes. His Throne encompasses all of the heavens and the earth and it is easy for Him to preserve them. He is the Most High, the Great.
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We should not enjoy what we have been given in this world. It has been given to us as a deceptive trial and the one who can abstain is strong-minded.
Be well
Amenuel -
The water you shower with, the cold wind touching your skin, the sky, the smell of fresh air, the peacefulness of the morning and night, the safety, the sanity, the knowledge, the physical abilities, a good talk with a loved one, tasty food in a warm room...
I do enjoy these things. Many enjoyable things, if enjoyed without considering God, may lead to deception.
Though, We still enjoy what is naturally enjoyable. Always in the context of the life test.
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Greetings and Peace, all group
832 Say "Who has made forbidden the nice things that GOD has brought forth for His servants and the good provisions?" Say "They are meant for those who believe during this worldly life, and they will be exclusive for them on the Day of Resurrection." It is such that We explain the revelations for those who know.
ALLAH knows best.
peace
~Abdul-Hadi
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The water you shower with, the cold wind touching your skin, the sky, the smell of fresh air, the peacefulness of the morning and night, the safety, the sanity, the knowledge, the physical abilities, a good talk with a loved one, tasty food in a warm room...
I do enjoy these things. Many enjoyable things, if enjoyed without considering God, may lead to deception.
Though, We still enjoy what is naturally enjoyable. Always in the context of the life test.
It is just that what is natural is the deception in this world.
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Greetings and Peace, all group
832 Say "Who has made forbidden the nice things that GOD has brought forth for His servants and the good provisions?" Say "They are meant for those who believe during this worldly life, and they will be exclusive for them on the Day of Resurrection." It is such that We explain the revelations for those who know.
ALLAH knows best.
peace
~Abdul-Hadi
It is not about forbidden, but it is a matter of what is recommended to do.
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It is just that what is natural is the deception in this world.
3185 Every human being is bound to taste death but only on the Day of Resurrection will you be requited in full - whereupon he that shall be drawn away from the fire and brought into paradise will indeed have gained a triumph for the life of this world is nothing but an enjoyment of self-delusion/self-deception
One is easily bound to the wordly things. But one has to remind himself. That is the remembrance of God. Though we still enjoy what we've been given to enjoy.
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One is easily bound to the wordly things. But one has to remind himself. That is the remembrance of God. Though we still enjoy what we've been given to enjoy.
But does it not make us slaves?
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But does it not make us slaves?
This is what I said
One is easily bound to the wordly things. But one has to remind himself. That is the remembrance of God. Though we still enjoy what we've been given to enjoy.One is easily bound to the wordly things Temptation, Devil, Ego, Difficulty to control. Lack of gratitude. Wanting more.
But one has to remind himself That is the key to facing such states. The multiple Salat we make. Those small moments you look at something and remember God. Giving away of what you have. etc. All those moments of stepping outside of the box.
2153 O you who believe, seek help through patience and through the contact prayer, God is with the patient ones.That is the Remembrance of God Indeed. That is how you grow spiritually. Gradually.
Though we still enjoy what we've been given to enjoy Taking in consideration all the above. That is from God. And that is all in the context of the life test.
Now which part suggests what you suggest ?
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We should not enjoy what we have been given in this world. It has been given to us as a deceptive trial and the one who can abstain is strong-minded.
Be well
AmenuelSalam,
I think we should enjoy what we are granted from God, this will lead to being thankful.
Solomon enjoyed horses (racing?).There are some verses though about indulging. Indulging so much in what we are granted that we forget the remembrance of God. This is danger.
Salam
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But does it not make us slaves?
yes because we are infact slaves of God... 1/5
its another thing if a deluded person(kafir/mushrik) think he is a part of God. going against 112...
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yes because we are infact slaves of God... 1/5
its another thing if a deluded person(kafir/mushrik) think he is a part of God. going against 112...
Salam,
we aren't slaves, but servants.One important difference between these two words is that slaves have no choice while servants do have a choice, which goes in line with this verse;
2256 There is no compulsion in the system; the proper way has been
clarified from the wrong way. Whoever rejects evil, and believes
in God, indeed he has taken grasp of the strongest hold that will
never break. God is Hearer, Knower.Salam
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slaves and servants are synonyms for the perception of wordly understandings..
whereas i m talking beyond the imagination... we still cannot understand what word should we use ..
1 slave is a person who work for his master ... forcefully/ helplessly/ optionless
2 servant is a person who work for his master for the sake of money
3 employee is a person who sale his services to his masterthe concept of option 1 is finished as we know its an evil practise never encouraged by lord...(for humans )
but if you wish to go against your lord and do things which God dnt like (then ready for the punishment he declared for the wicked people) in that sense you can also say we may are slave of God laws.. you must be a slave to law that you never commit murder/illegal sex/robbery/rape/invasion but God is not interferring you while you are doing it .. but the results of your doings will definately brought forward to you by your lord... on other words you are slave to do good for your own good...
the other two options are still availiable... but all this language wrestling we apply to world and systems of man made...
on other words you cannot limit your understanding in the worldy way with man made grammer and point out mistakes and misunderstandings like most of the times our fellow brother MOF do it with the gymnastics of words....
and lastly for my point of view slave servant worshiper are all closing understanding to the role what our God gives us..
and also we can use successor/khalifabut again even we are king off the planet or go beyond the planet and God let you control the galaxies .. still your role is the person/individual/successor/slave/service provider/manager under the dominon of God.. which is your real boss/king
now what is the dominion you and angels /malik and anybody have really no idea what is the nature of the creator .. your and my mind is not programmed in a way to grasp it..peace...
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yes because we are infact slaves of God... 1/5
its another thing if a deluded person(kafir/mushrik) think he is a part of God. going against 112...
Yes, it is another thing. That person is independent and uses the capability "God" bestowed him/her with rather than is a useless pet.
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Salam,
I think we should enjoy what we are granted from God, this will lead to being thankful.
Solomon enjoyed horses (racing?).There are some verses though about indulging. Indulging so much in what we are granted that we forget the remembrance of God. This is danger.
Salam
One can be thankful without enjoying. But of course it depends on whether one perceives the world as a gift or not. I consider it being offered as a gift to be a trial. I try to be restricted in how much I accept it and I focus on immaterial elevation.
Be well
Amenuel -
on other words you cannot limit your understanding in the worldy way with man made grammer and point out mistakes and misunderstandings like most of the times our fellow brother MOF do it with the gymnastics of words....
Again you opinion, I move within the boundaries of available definitions in ancient lexicons and it would appear to be sensible logic that one word does not have two utterly conflicting definitions that are true except to one who is gullible.
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but you always choose the wrong defination lol just kidding sometimes it may work but we need to make sure one thing always
any lexcion or anything in the world cannot tell the real nature of something which is beyond the perception of human mind...
example is the nature of God..
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but you always choose the wrong defination lol just kidding sometimes it may work but we need to make sure one thing always
any lexcion or anything in the world cannot tell the real nature of something which is beyond the perception of human mind...
example is the nature of God..
Lexicons can show how a language was used in the past. It is a collection of a corpus of the language. It cannot tell what is written in Quran unless there are extracts from it, and even if it has they can be wrong. It is a constant search for whatever definition is most plausible given a context.
Quran does reveal the nature of "God" in a way of metaphorical language since it is very esoteric. One parable (which I have not linguistically verified) says "God" is like a lamp shining in the darkness. There are multiple parables about the nature of "God". And that is taken from a sectarian interpretation of it. I cannot comment any other interpretation here since an need to respect this sect.
Be well
Amenuel -
Quran does reveal the nature of "God" in a way of metaphorical language since it is very esoteric. One parable (which I have not linguistically verified) says "God" is like a lamp shining in the darkness
nope
2435 God is the Light of the heavens and the earth. The parable of His light is, as it were,that of a niche containing a lamp; the lamp is in glass, the glass like a radiant star lit from a blessed tree - an olive-tree that is neither of the east nor of the west the oil whereof would well-nigh give light even though fire had not touched it light upon light! God guides unto His light him that wills ;and God propounds parables unto men, since God has full knowledge of all things.
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Salam,
we aren't slaves, but servants.One important difference between these two words is that slaves have no choice while servants do have a choice, which goes in line with this verse;
2256 There is no compulsion in the system; the proper way has been
clarified from the wrong way. Whoever rejects evil, and believes
in God, indeed he has taken grasp of the strongest hold that will
never break. God is Hearer, Knower.Salam
We are property of God, we are certainly slaves. God kan kill us whenever He wants, or resurrect us, and we can do nothing, bsolutely nothing about it.
Another, quite different thing, is freedom. A slave is free, you can own him, but you cannot dictate his or her thoughts, you cannot make a slave accept or not accept even if he obeys. Exactly like we are with respect to God. We will do whatever he wants us to do, we may agree or not, that is all, and even that if he wants us also to agree He dan do that. Complete slaves and even more than slaves.
A slave can hate his master and there would not be much a master could do to change that, save of course try by all means, God can have us love Him whenever He wants.
More than slaves. But yes, because He wants us so, we think and we may feel that we are free, just as free as He wants us to be at any given moment.
Slaves and more than slaves.
Salaam