Homosexuality LGBTQI and the deen
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Very tough week ahead of me, but I will God willing demonstrate to you what you overlook much of the Quran in regards to this topic
and those of you who fear people more than you fear Allah will have no excuse after that... jediRemain patient and keep reading Quran
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Just as a side note... a bit off-topic...
I find it fascinating that people get more emotionally upset from homosexuality than with all the killing, corruption and injustice going on. People will spit on homosexuals who do not disturb anyone, but they have no issues letting their children play GTA where you systematically run over people with your car, or any other shooting games or movies where murder is glorified.+1
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i have a question from all who are supporting same sex relationship...
why did not God give a clear commandment so that they legally live sex with eachother ... like male female relation ..
i mean if you approach a women without wedlock it consider as fahisha..
if you approach a man without wedlock what are the requirement to make it halal? rotflconfused
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So what is wedlock?
hmm good question , but i think its very difficult to answer what is wedding , you may contact event management they will provide you information what is wedlock.. as i feel they deal weddings everyday
New human beings are born of the flesh relation between a female and a male not of any wedlock magic.
deatail it i m afraid i did not understand properly...
what i understand you try to say now a days due to magic new human beings born without wedlock hahaha
well its an old magic not new
unfortunately this thing you cannot apply to same sex with or without wedlock,,, hmm or may be if you know any magic like this let me know it will b a nice information for knowledge gaining
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God's wedlock is precisely that flesh relation, wedlock as distinct from fleshrelation is a human fabrication which has given unhonourable humans a way out of the mithaq ghalith that is mentioned in the Qur'an regarding that relationship. Wedlock is that or is nothing, because if you do not take the flesh relation as the mithaq ghalith then you are saying in fact that wedlock between any two persons no matter the sex is perfectly possible, you are shooting your own foot.
Hole is hte human relation between male and female because that is the source of new life, if not, it is nothing, and anything can be invented, wedlock, wedding, or whatever social entertainmen or legal paper but no social act and no paper will give birth to a new being.
Salaam
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Nothing productive comes out of a same sex marriage. There will be no reproduction.
One has a such marriage to stimulate the sensuality.
Be well
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Intentions are not the question, that is between God and each person, but if we are talking about things like wedlock and rights and this or that, then we should be at least be objective and not go by presumed intentions of which we may know nothing.
Salaam
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Nothing productive comes out of a same sex marriage. There will be no reproduction.
One has a such marriage to stimulate the sensuality.
Be well
AmenuelMost heteros also marry in the first place to stimulate their sensuality where reproduction is just a bonus.
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Most heteros also marry in the first place to stimulate their sensuality where reproduction is just a bonus.
That was not my point here, but it is true.
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Most heteros also marry in the first place to stimulate their sensuality where reproduction is just a bonus.
Pull out those statistics right now?
Show us what research you have done that led you to this conclusion.
Link the papers and studies conducted that gathered sufficient data to prove that is the case.Now days a majority of people have sex before marriage...https//www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1802108/
Therefore, sensuality is not the reason for marriage...Nice try guy...
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Pull out those statistics right now?
Or else? &
Show us what research you have done that led you to this conclusion.
Link the papers and studies conducted that gathered sufficient data to prove that is the case.Show me the money first!
Now days a majority of people have sex before marriage...https//www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1802108/
Therefore, sensuality is not the reason for marriage...RED Therefore ;D
Nice try guy...
Thank you )
I am sure you will choose your eventually partner with who you want to marry without feeling anything for her, it's pure for producing children.*- I'm assuming you're a hetero
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Salam,
I somewhat agree with what HP TECH says, to an extent
The fornicators could easily commit adultery when they want, so sexual intercourse isn't the main factor for getting married P
Lets not forget that it also depends on region. In some areas, people can't wait to get married, they are extremely excited.
Salam
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Or else? &
Show me the money first!
RED Therefore ;D
Thank you
I am sure you will choose your eventually partner with who you want to marry without feeling anything for her, it's pure for producing children.*- I'm assuming you're a hetero
Come on! Look at you Bender... you don't even have the decency to humble yourself when you're obviously wrong...
Everything is a big joke, sarcasm left and right...Don't be a clown! The way you are speaking you are essentially assuming that the reason for marriage is a two way street either based on sensuality/attraction or reproducing children!
Perhaps, you deliberately disregard the need for affection/feelings, deep emotional connections, compatibility, emotional and financial stability (in some cases in some cultures), social statement (maturity, accomplishment, status), to strengthen "political"/social relations.
By the way affection/love/deep emotional connections between a man and a woman is granted as a Sign by Allah!
I fear Allah and I see and appreciate HIs Signs, while you and your lot make mockery of themQuran 3021
And among His Signs (is) that He created for you from yourselves mates that you may find tranquility in them; and He placed between you love and mercy. Indeed, in that surely (are) Signs for a people who reflect.Quran 2574
And those who say, "Our Lord! Grant to us from our spouses and our offspring comfort (to) our eyes, and make us for the righteous a leader."By your Lord, give me until the weekend and if He so wills I will expose to you the ingratitude of your hearts and ignorance in your minds
It's because you want to push for perversion that your rationale is equally perverted and bereft of reason
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Come on! Look at you Bender... you don't even have the decency to humble yourself when you're obviously wrong...
Everything is a big joke, sarcasm left and right...Don't be a clown! The way you are speaking you are essentially assuming that the reason for marriage is a two way street either based on sensuality/attraction or reproducing children!
Perhaps, you deliberately disregard the need for affection/feelings, deep emotional connections, compatibility, emotional and financial stability (in some cases in some cultures), social statement (maturity, accomplishment, status), to strengthen "political"/social relations.
The word sensuality was chosen wrong by me, just a copy-paste from MoF's comment, a better word is "feelings".
I will humble and correct myself The main reason people (no matter what sexual preference one has) marry or any kind of bond is because they want to be together because they have feelings for each other and not because they want childeren together.
Of course I am talking only about people who have a choice.And I am not a clown but a drunken master, see my avatar >(
By the way affection/love/deep emotional connections between a man and a woman is granted as a Sign by Allah!
I fear Allah and I see and appreciate HIs Signs, while you and your lot make mockery of themRED Where? Can you quote me please so I can correct myself.
Quran 3021
And among His Signs (is) that He created for you from yourselves mates that you may find tranquility in them; and He placed between you love and mercy. Indeed, in that surely (are) Signs for a people who reflect.Quran 2574
And those who say, "Our Lord! Grant to us from our spouses and our offspring comfort (to) our eyes, and make us for the righteous a leader."By your Lord, give me until the weekend and if He so wills I will expose to you the ingratitude of your hearts and ignorance in your minds
It's because you want to push for perversion that your rationale is equally perverted and bereft of reason
Please have mercy on me, don't expose my perverse nature in front of everyone.
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Emotions are not so good. They can cause many issues. I can clearly see that you have some issues due to that.
There is a difference between care because it is the most logical move and emotions.
But if you like to be a slave to emotions and the flesh it is entirely up to you.
Be well
Amenuel -
Emotions are not so good. They can cause many issues. I can clearly see that you have some issues due to that.
There is a difference between care because it is the most logical move and emotions.
But if you like to be a slave to emotions and the flesh it is entirely up to you.
Be well
AmenuelWas this for me?
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Emotions are not so good. They can cause many issues. I can clearly see that you have some issues due to that.
There is a difference between care because it is the most logical move and emotions.
But if you like to be a slave to emotions and the flesh it is entirely up to you.
Be well
AmenuelThis is completely true.
As a young man who does reflect on himself, I can tell how it is of a "natural" to be driven by your emotions.
We seek and long for attachment and even the simplest forms of attachments from a certain someone as a reply to our inexplicable emotions. And then build them even stronger and bigger under hope and wishful thinking of "the better state" of self when the attachment with that person is accomplished. Now this attachment may or may not be accomplished (and may or may not result in a marriage) but we do live as slaves trying/hoping for its accomplishment, until it is accomplished or you have new emotions.
It is surely a hard test, specially for a lonely person.
But one thing for sure Man Of Faith, you make such hardships seem ridiculously easy lol, I gotta credit you for that.
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There is nothing wrong with emotions, or passions, or reason or feelings. All is a matter of attending to eah aspect in due measure and in balance with everything else.
To say that emotions are bad is to say that God creates bad things. Emotions make us kare for other people, build something with other people. Aseticism itself is not voi of emotion, quite the opposite, only it is a cetin type o emotion. Is it wrong? Not in its due measure. In excess it is wrong, but it is not the emotion itself that is wrong, it is the excess or the lack.
Salaam