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Homosexuality LGBTQI and the deen

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    Cerberus
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    I am sorry but telling someone that he is a sin just being him/her self sounded to me like "judging".

    It doesn't concern us, but we still hold an opinion, whether we are supporting or not. And that also doesn't concern anyone, as long as we're not being discriminatory..."homophobic" people are discriminatory.

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      virginia
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      It doesn't concern us, but we still hold an opinion, whether we are supporting or not. And that also doesn't concern anyone, as long as we're not being discriminatory..."homophobic" people are discriminatory.

      God does not like discrimination nope

      sun

      handshake

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        HP_TECH
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        Very tough week ahead of me, but I will God willing demonstrate to you what you overlook much of the Quran in regards to this topic
        and those of you who fear people more than you fear Allah will have no excuse after that... jedi

        Remain patient and keep reading Quran

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          Bender
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          Very tough week ahead of me, but I will God willing demonstrate to you what you overlook much of the Quran in regards to this topic
          and those of you who fear people more than you fear Allah will have no excuse after that... jedi

          Remain patient and keep reading Quran

          &

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            yellowdog8272
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            Just as a side note... a bit off-topic...
            I find it fascinating that people get more emotionally upset from homosexuality than with all the killing, corruption and injustice going on. People will spit on homosexuals who do not disturb anyone, but they have no issues letting their children play GTA where you systematically run over people with your car, or any other shooting games or movies where murder is glorified.

            +1

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              virginia
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              #101

              but I will God willing demonstrate to you what you overlook much of the Quran in regards to this topic
              and those of you who fear people more than you fear Allah will have no excuse after that... jedi

              Remain patient and keep reading Quran

              wow

              yay

              peace

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                imrankhawaja
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                i have a question from all who are supporting same sex relationship...

                why did not God give a clear commandment so that they legally live sex with eachother ... like male female relation ..

                i mean if you approach a women without wedlock it consider as fahisha..
                if you approach a man without wedlock what are the requirement to make it halal? rotfl

                confused

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                  huruf
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                  So what is wedlock?

                  New human beings are born of the flesh relation between a female and a male not of any wedlock magic.

                  Salaam

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                    imrankhawaja
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                    So what is wedlock?

                    hmm good question , but i think its very difficult to answer what is wedding , you may contact event management they will provide you information what is wedlock.. as i feel they deal weddings everyday

                    New human beings are born of the flesh relation between a female and a male not of any wedlock magic.

                    deatail it i m afraid i did not understand properly...

                    what i understand you try to say now a days due to magic new human beings born without wedlock hahaha

                    well its an old magic not new

                    unfortunately this thing you cannot apply to same sex with or without wedlock,,, hmm or may be if you know any magic like this let me know it will b a nice information for knowledge gaining

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                      huruf
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                      God's wedlock is precisely that flesh relation, wedlock as distinct from fleshrelation is a human fabrication which has given unhonourable humans a way out of the mithaq ghalith that is mentioned in the Qur'an regarding that relationship. Wedlock is that or is nothing, because if you do not take the flesh relation as the mithaq ghalith then you are saying in fact that wedlock between any two persons no matter the sex is perfectly possible, you are shooting your own foot.

                      Hole is hte human relation between male and female because that is the source of new life, if not, it is nothing, and anything can be invented, wedlock, wedding, or whatever social entertainmen or legal paper but no social act and no paper will give birth to a new being.

                      Salaam

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                        Man_of_Faith
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                        Nothing productive comes out of a same sex marriage. There will be no reproduction.

                        One has a such marriage to stimulate the sensuality.

                        Be well
                        Amenuel

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                          huruf
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                          Intentions are not the question, that is between God and each person, but if we are talking about things like wedlock and rights and this or that, then we should be at least be objective and not go by presumed intentions of which we may know nothing.

                          Salaam

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                            Bender
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                            Nothing productive comes out of a same sex marriage. There will be no reproduction.

                            One has a such marriage to stimulate the sensuality.

                            Be well
                            Amenuel

                            Most heteros also marry in the first place to stimulate their sensuality where reproduction is just a bonus.

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                              Man_of_Faith
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                              Most heteros also marry in the first place to stimulate their sensuality where reproduction is just a bonus.

                              That was not my point here, but it is true.

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                                HP_TECH
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                                Most heteros also marry in the first place to stimulate their sensuality where reproduction is just a bonus.

                                Pull out those statistics right now?
                                Show us what research you have done that led you to this conclusion.
                                Link the papers and studies conducted that gathered sufficient data to prove that is the case.

                                Now days a majority of people have sex before marriage...https//www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1802108/
                                Therefore, sensuality is not the reason for marriage...

                                Nice try guy...

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                                  Bender
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                                  Pull out those statistics right now?

                                  Or else? &

                                  Show us what research you have done that led you to this conclusion.
                                  Link the papers and studies conducted that gathered sufficient data to prove that is the case.

                                  Show me the money first!

                                  Now days a majority of people have sex before marriage...https//www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1802108/
                                  Therefore, sensuality is not the reason for marriage...

                                  RED Therefore ;D

                                  Nice try guy...

                                  Thank you )
                                  I am sure you will choose your eventually partner with who you want to marry without feeling anything for her, it's pure for producing children.*

                                  • I'm assuming you're a hetero
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                                    A_Submitter
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                                    Salam,

                                    I somewhat agree with what HP TECH says, to an extent

                                    The fornicators could easily commit adultery when they want, so sexual intercourse isn't the main factor for getting married P

                                    Lets not forget that it also depends on region. In some areas, people can't wait to get married, they are extremely excited.

                                    Salam

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                                      HP_TECH
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                                      Or else? &
                                      Show me the money first!
                                      RED Therefore ;D
                                      Thank you
                                      I am sure you will choose your eventually partner with who you want to marry without feeling anything for her, it's pure for producing children.*

                                      • I'm assuming you're a hetero

                                      Come on! Look at you Bender... you don't even have the decency to humble yourself when you're obviously wrong...
                                      Everything is a big joke, sarcasm left and right...

                                      Don't be a clown! The way you are speaking you are essentially assuming that the reason for marriage is a two way street either based on sensuality/attraction or reproducing children!

                                      Perhaps, you deliberately disregard the need for affection/feelings, deep emotional connections, compatibility, emotional and financial stability (in some cases in some cultures), social statement (maturity, accomplishment, status), to strengthen "political"/social relations.

                                      By the way affection/love/deep emotional connections between a man and a woman is granted as a Sign by Allah!
                                      I fear Allah and I see and appreciate HIs Signs, while you and your lot make mockery of them

                                      Quran 3021
                                      And among His Signs (is) that He created for you from yourselves mates that you may find tranquility in them; and He placed between you love and mercy. Indeed, in that surely (are) Signs for a people who reflect.

                                      Quran 2574
                                      And those who say, "Our Lord! Grant to us from our spouses and our offspring comfort (to) our eyes, and make us for the righteous a leader."

                                      By your Lord, give me until the weekend and if He so wills I will expose to you the ingratitude of your hearts and ignorance in your minds

                                      It's because you want to push for perversion that your rationale is equally perverted and bereft of reason

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                                        Bender
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                                        #114

                                        Come on! Look at you Bender... you don't even have the decency to humble yourself when you're obviously wrong...
                                        Everything is a big joke, sarcasm left and right...

                                        Don't be a clown! The way you are speaking you are essentially assuming that the reason for marriage is a two way street either based on sensuality/attraction or reproducing children!

                                        Perhaps, you deliberately disregard the need for affection/feelings, deep emotional connections, compatibility, emotional and financial stability (in some cases in some cultures), social statement (maturity, accomplishment, status), to strengthen "political"/social relations.

                                        The word sensuality was chosen wrong by me, just a copy-paste from MoF's comment, a better word is "feelings".
                                        I will humble and correct myself The main reason people (no matter what sexual preference one has) marry or any kind of bond is because they want to be together because they have feelings for each other and not because they want childeren together.
                                        Of course I am talking only about people who have a choice.

                                        And I am not a clown but a drunken master, see my avatar >(

                                        By the way affection/love/deep emotional connections between a man and a woman is granted as a Sign by Allah!
                                        I fear Allah and I see and appreciate HIs Signs, while you and your lot make mockery of them

                                        RED Where? Can you quote me please so I can correct myself.

                                        Quran 3021
                                        And among His Signs (is) that He created for you from yourselves mates that you may find tranquility in them; and He placed between you love and mercy. Indeed, in that surely (are) Signs for a people who reflect.

                                        Quran 2574
                                        And those who say, "Our Lord! Grant to us from our spouses and our offspring comfort (to) our eyes, and make us for the righteous a leader."

                                        By your Lord, give me until the weekend and if He so wills I will expose to you the ingratitude of your hearts and ignorance in your minds

                                        It's because you want to push for perversion that your rationale is equally perverted and bereft of reason

                                        Please have mercy on me, don't expose my perverse nature in front of everyone.

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                                          Man_of_Faith
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                                          Emotions are not so good. They can cause many issues. I can clearly see that you have some issues due to that.

                                          There is a difference between care because it is the most logical move and emotions.

                                          But if you like to be a slave to emotions and the flesh it is entirely up to you.

                                          Be well
                                          Amenuel

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