Spider's house
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Bismillah
As you probably know there's surah called Spider ('ankeboot) and its name comes from 2941. Translators and commentators (including FM translation) translating word "beyt" as house or home.
By following their translations/understandings one can conclude that spider's web is very weak. But, you can read/hear that spider's web is very strong and elastic, even stronger then steel, as scientific priests claim. I haven't tested it, but if somebody wants they can. Please, share results if you do so.
We can find many homes in nature. I'll leave it to you to find all strange homes...
Total misunderstanding comes from using lexicons and dictionaries of non-Muslims and their followers. Word "beyt" is one of best examples. Wherever it was understood as "home, house" people made some religion based on their (mis)understanding.
I hope that this example will be clear proof, even for those who're near to be totally blind.
The real (haqq) meaning of this word is "family" and this ayet is talking that weakest of families is spider's. Why?
Because most of spiders are eaten after or during sexual intercourse, trying to "take" a family.
(note FM translation for is "take" and for the same word in the same ayet is "makes"Please check all ayets with word "beyt" in any form and think about them. I hope Allah swt will explain to us a lot in them.
Allah swt knows best.
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For what? I said many things in that text.
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The more accurate translation can be found here
https//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9602147.msg274246#msg274246Your problem is that spider's house is not weak at all, and not weakest.
You started very good in that post, noticing that "to take" is related to "mesjid". Keep on working, I hope Allah swt will explain reality (haqq) to you and He'll help you to accept it and to follow it.
Beyt is not a house, it's a family.
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Bismillah
As you probably know there's surah called Spider ('ankeboot) and its name comes from 2941. Translators and commentators (including FM translation) translating word "beyt" as house or home.
By following their translations/understandings one can conclude that spider's web is very weak. But, you can read/hear that spider's web is very strong and elastic, even stronger then steel, as scientific priests claim. I haven't tested it, but if somebody wants they can. Please, share results if you do so.
We can find many homes in nature. I'll leave it to you to find all strange homes...
Total misunderstanding comes from using lexicons and dictionaries of non-Muslims and their followers. Word "beyt" is one of best examples. Wherever it was understood as "home, house" people made some religion based on their (mis)understanding.
RED And how exactly did you conclude that ankeboot = spider?
Please don't tell me you were using lexicons and dictionaries. -
Allah swt told me so. I thought that it is not spider, but it was my opinion.
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Your problem is that spider's house is not weak at all, and not weakest.
Please cite your evidence, or shall we take this as another one of your opinions?
Note, in my interpretation I do not refer to the web as the spider's house.
Once you cite your evidence and explain why this is a problem for my interpretation, we will see if you require reality to be explained to you.
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Note, in my interpretation I do not refer to the web as the spider's house.
Please, make my day and explain what is spider's house if it is not web?
I have no evidences then the Qur'an and the reality in us and around us. I cannot bring something you cannot come close to w/o me.
You haven't noticed for years that FM translation is totally wrong, because same word is translated different for years, but you didn't want and you still don't want to admit that you were wrong too. What's bad in being blessed and notice our errs?
I was watching video about Trump and the Bible... he told that he never asked for forgiveness. But, Trump is a puppet, people here should be ones who're seeking for the reality and its explanation. So, what is wrong if I write something now and then Allah swt opens my eyes for that after a few minutes or years?
If you search only my inputs here you'll most certenally find that I used "House" for "beyt", maybe a few days ago. But, should I be affraid if I see that I was wrong or should I ask for forgiveness and tell it to everybody I, Aladin, Allah's slave, made a mistake and I'm really sorry for my jehl, it wasn't my intention to lie. I seek a refuge at Him from Sheytan, Expelled, and I seek a forgiveness from Allah. It's not hard and maybe He'll forgive me. Is it better or being stubborn?
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Please, make my day and explain what is spider's house if it is not web?
If you bothered to carefully read the link I gave, you will find I explicitly mention what is the spider's house.
I, Aladin, Allah's slave, made a mistake....
Perhaps if you read more carefully you will make less mistakes.
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If you bothered to carefully read the link I gave, you will find I explicitly mention what is the spider's house.
Perhaps if you read more carefully you will make less mistakes.
Even your behaviour is not dear to me, I'll start with "dear brother"...
Dear brother,
It's not important at all what me and you think, know, heard, told...
If you're satisfied that Ibrahim a.s., Isma'il a.s., Moosa a.s. and Haroon a.s. were house-builders and house-cleaners, then it's ok with me. If you're not you could check what you understood.If you can't answer my question and you're telling me to search for it, then it's better to keep it unanswered.
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By following their translations/understandings one can conclude that spider's web is very weak. But, you can read/hear that spider's web is very strong and elastic, even stronger then steel, as scientific priests claim. I haven't tested it, but if somebody wants they can. Please, share results if you do so.
how can we possibly test it... ?
and strong in which sense ? stronger enough than steel to block the pressure of violent winds..
or stronger enough to escape from more than 1,500 ?C of heat pressure...
how much force required to remove steel house compared to spider web?
peace
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Thank you, dear, for your scientific data, I was hoping that somebody'll do so, but I didn't expected this much. welcome ! hmm
Maybe you could inform us if you have any view is this about spider at all and if it's about its house or family.Bender, I have no problem with that. Allah loves those who're asking for forgiveness. Allah loves humans. Yes, humans are very complicated and have a lot of negative attributes and I don't understand why Allah loves us, but He does.
But, I'd like if all of you ask does "min dunillahi" includes Allah? If it doesn't then are Beni Israil humans (en-nas), Wakas?
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Bender, I have no problem with that.
Well I do.
Since Allah does not give false information, one of us (or both) is lying or confuses his feeling with Allahs word.
Maybe next time we should leave Allah outside in discussions about definitions of some words and simply show how we came to such conclusions. -
Well I do.
Since Allah does not give false information, one of us (or both) is lying or confuses his feeling with Allahs word.
Maybe next time we should leave Allah outside in discussions about definitions of some words and simply show how we came to such conclusions.As I told you I haven't skipped Him this time and I got the explanation about this word. Take it as Ibn 'Arebi's "visions", if it's easier for you.
I can't leave Allah, otherwise I'd lie on Him.
Anybody can ask me or somebody else for explanation of anything, but we can't explain.1134 is my standing and 3446 is something we all should do. (But don't use translations, ask from Allah swt to explain them)
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The ?scientific priests ? claim that spider silk is 5 times stronger than steel.
hmm did he also claim that with the help of spider silk human will able to make stronger house or swords or stuff which is long lasting than steel... ? curious to know
and the name of that scientific priest send me a link and whatever he claims that would b nice...
thanx
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If it sounds like a cat and it looks like a cat, it has to be a cat.
This logic functions almost always, but JUST almost.For example are ants "flying creatures"? Have jinns human form?
Bender's aggression in this topic is valid only if he thinks that what we know as "spider" is not "spider". Since I can't read minds I had to ignore that kind of discussion.
Yeah, I knew that some male spiders eat females and this is why I didn't mention their sex. Anyways, usage with "El" is about species, not about just any random spider.
I believe that knowledge about the name itself (El-'Ankeboot) can reveal reality about Spiders, hidden from us.
I believe that science can reveal the reality too, because ayets are all around us, and those who're looking for the reality can find it anywhere, not just in the Qur'an. Those who go astray by the science are priests of them, same as all other priests - expecting us to believe them blindly.
So, dear, if you find it useful you can think what makes these giants amongs what we know as "spiders" differ from others, why they're not eating each other. I don't enjoy in "canibalism", but since there's a reason for that it can be useful to think about it.
If I count good, then maybe what we know as "spiders" is not in 2445. Science can be beautiful, if we understood "names".
Thanks you, once again.
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Hey Aladin
spider's web is very strong and elastic, even stronger then steel, as scientific priests claim. I haven't tested it, but if somebody wants they can. Please, share results if you do so.
I tested it many times when cleaning. It's very easy to get rid of. But the spider that's another story....
