Spider's house
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It's an attempt to translate surah Kewser (108.), hansolo.
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As matter of fact, Bender, I told before that I was thinking that translations (andother sources) are not good, and I thought that El-'Ankeboot<>The Spiders. I was right and I was wrong, same time. When I was learned a few of el-Esma', I understood it.
I haven't told Bender, if you give me some money I'll explain something to you! Nor Bender, follow me, you'll be guided! Nor anything like that.
No, you called me and others who have a different view blind ones and infected with interpretations of non-muslims (no idea what this means in your Godly dictionary but I don't think it's positive).
And I do not like people calling me blind because I am not as smart as them or because I do not have Godly visions.I just wanted to share with you that even if we say "house" for "beyt", we should know that it's not a material building, it's about a family.
Again you bring something as truth while you are only speculating.
Anyways, there're other words in this ayet and if anybody wanna share something about them it'll be good. Saying "it's not correct" without explaining what is... I don't know what to say.
It works in the same way as "God told me so" or "I had a vision".
If I somewhere claim something just ask me and I will show you in detail how I came to my conclusions. It doesn't mean I am right, but at least I will show you how I came to my conclusions.
Please tell me if any translation (or other sources) is saying that Beni Israil are jinns or that "kitab" is not in any way "book, letter..." or that Et-Tewrat is "transmitted messages" or that last word in surah Kafiroon doesn't mean "my deen" or that "weqaar" in 7113 means "deaf", etc.
I also said that Ibrahim a.s. was trown to female-jinns, with which his people were doing zina. I said too that "selam" is not a greeting and it doesn't mean "peace".
No idea, but does this make your defintions the correct ones?
I say Bani Israel are dinos, I am almost sure no one ever thought of that, does this mean now that God told me so?God told you that Ibrahim was thrown to Beni Israel females aka female jinns? Interesting!
But, I'll share for you something else, which you can try to find in sources you mentioned.
BismillahirRahmanirRaheem
We approached to you increased
Therefore you shall keep nearness because of your Lord and have respect
He who hates you is the one most in needAllah swt knows best.
thanks for sharing peace
Brother Aladin, what does
"BismillahirRahmanirRaheem
We approached to you increased
Therefore you shall keep nearness because of your Lord and have respect
He who hates you is the one most in need"Mean/Say exactly?
It's to comfort yourself that you are right and the one who disagrees with you is wrong.
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Again you bring something as truth while you are only speculating.
Not as "truth", as "reality". That's the meaning of the word "haqq". (If you want write it down)
I'm asking again and waiting for you to say anything after "no, it's not correct". Maybe some sentence as "this is the reality (or truth, if you like)...".I had no visions, I'm not Saul/Paul nor Ibn 'Arebi. I just understood something which was explained to me.
I really don't care if you or anybody else is right or wrong, it's not upto me to judge. It's even impossible for anybody to judge you, because you said nothing here.
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Hi Andrewsarchus
All your words change the fact that the spider has the weakest house. Like also Quran also states.
I saw you impyed that it had to do with the family/social spider,and not house
And you claimed that there was nothing like a social spider. Also here I have to correct you https//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_spiderPeace.
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Even widow spiders (genus Latrodectus), which are notoriously aggressive and cannibalistic, have formed small colonies in captivity, sharing webs and feeding together
Dear brother, I brought only one line from wikipedia's page.
- What you understand as "a house"? I don't know much about spiders, but what happens when it rains for example?
- Being social doesn't mean that they're not canibbalistic. Sociality is, as I understood, about "good relations" (hunting, protecting...) with others from their colony and it doesn't mean that they live with their spouses.
- Have you checked if you can implement your understanding in all ayets where "beyt/buyoot" was mentioned?
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Not as "truth", as "reality". That's the meaning of the word "haqq". (If you want write it down)
I did not say haqq=truth, I said you should not throw your defintions on me as if they are truths.
Just like now with this word "haqq".I'm asking again and waiting for you to say anything after "no, it's not correct". Maybe some sentence as "this is the reality (or truth, if you like)...".
In this case, I already did, I said God told me so, just like you.
I had no visions, I'm not Saul/Paul nor Ibn 'Arebi. I just understood something which was explained to me.
Now you lost me, earlier you said "I haven't skipped Him this time and I got the explanation about this word. Take it as Ibn 'Arebi's "visions", if it's easier for you."
I really don't care if you or anybody else is right or wrong, it's not upto me to judge. It's even impossible for anybody to judge you, because you said nothing here.
But you already judged me in your OP as being blind and following non-muslims.
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I didn't told that you're blind and you're following non-Muslims. I said that those who can't see obvious are blind and most of translators/commentators followed (are following) dictionaries from non-Muslims or their followers. It's nothing unexpected, we all are getting guidance from sources we're accepting as legit. I tried to warn others on that, because I was doing same in most cases and I know what I'm talking about.
I said "take it as Ibn 'Arebi's visions if it's easier for you", which meant if you can't understand reality which I tried to tell. The reality is that ONLY Allah swt can explain the Qur'an.
What I said about "truth" (s-d-q) is that my intention was not to come with evidencies outside this ayet, I just wanted to come with its reality (h-q-q), which is "beyt" = "a family". If you need proves you can ask for them, or if you think that it's illusion (batil) you have to come with proves for that. Otherwise, your words are empty, if you're not blind.
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I didn't told that you're blind and you're following non-Muslims. I said that those who can't see obvious are blind and most of translators/commentators followed (are following) dictionaries from non-Muslims or their followers. It's nothing unexpected, we all are getting guidance from sources we're accepting as legit. I tried to warn others on that, because I was doing same in most cases and I know what I'm talking about.
I said "take it as Ibn 'Arebi's visions if it's easier for you", which meant if you can't understand reality which I tried to tell. The reality is that ONLY Allah swt can explain the Qur'an.
What I said about "truth" (s-d-q) is that my intention was not to come with evidencies outside this ayet, I just wanted to come with its reality (h-q-q), which is "beyt" = "a family". If you need proves you can ask for them, or if you think that it's illusion (batil) you have to come with proves for that. Otherwise, your words are empty, if you're not blind.
You already gave in your OP your waterproof evidence
"I hope that this example will be clear proof, even for those who're near to be totally blind.
The real (haqq) meaning of this word is "family" and this ayet is talking that weakest of families is spider's. Why?
Because most of spiders are eaten after or during sexual intercourse, trying to "take" a family.
(note FM translation for is "take" and for the same word in the same ayet is "makes"Please check all ayets with word "beyt" in any form and think about them. I hope Allah swt will explain to us a lot in them."
in combination with
"Allah swt told me so."
One of the most brilliant proofs I've ever seen yes
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I'd really like to know your frequency, maybe different kind of light can help.
Have you noticed in text you quoted "outside this ayet"? I told, if you need further evidencies, to check all ayets with "beyt".
But, if you are so blind, ask and I can tell you how "logic" works in all ayets. I can't explain them to you, but I can tell you where to look. So, if you're not blind you'll see for sure.If your motive was what I told about dictionaries/lexicons then I'm sorry, I can't talk what you like to hear. If you're satisfied that "taqwa" has root waw-qaf-ya, I really can't help.
In case you don't need help to see and you don't wanna share your own opinion about the word "beyt", I won't further answer your comments about this topic.
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Even if Allah told you so, what do you gain from that?
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Even if Allah told you so, what do you gain from that?
For example, I know that in case I wanna divorce my wife I have to keep her close to her family (not her house) during 'iddet. This means that I should let her be with her kids, not just locked in one of rooms.
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And that is not common sense?
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Peace,
Beyt is a house, the word goes back pretty far, just look at the pictogram B especially in ancient forms it's clearly a house. Hence the preposition b- in Hebrew, Arabic means in, with, etc because a house is where you keep things
I hope that if I tell you that Hebrew and Arabic are not lisan of the Qur'an and their rules are men(and jinns)-made will be enough for you at least to think about it.
"a house is where you keep things" is from some lexicon, isn't it?
MoF, no, it's from the Qur'an. I don't see "common sense" as a solid huden.
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I'd really like to know your frequency, maybe different kind of light can help.
Have you noticed in text you quoted "outside this ayet"? I told, if you need further evidencies, to check all ayets with "beyt".
But, if you are so blind, ask and I can tell you how "logic" works in all ayets. I can't explain them to you, but I can tell you where to look. So, if you're not blind you'll see for sure.If your motive was what I told about dictionaries/lexicons then I'm sorry, I can't talk what you like to hear. If you're satisfied that "taqwa" has root waw-qaf-ya, I really can't help.
My motive/frequency/whatever is that you bring a lot of nonsense and present that as truth with nonsense evidence, besides that you call people who do not believe in your nonsense blind ones and affected with non-muslim interpretations.
In case you don't need help to see and you don't wanna share your own opinion about the word "beyt", I won't further answer your comments about this topic.
My opinion about the word beyt is that it does not mean family, check the other ayats to see for yourself. And besides that Allah swt told me so in a Ibn 'Arebi's "vision" but don't make the mistake now to think I had visions, I'm not Saul/Paul nor Ibn 'Arebi. I just understood something which was explained to me.
there is no obligation to answer my questions.
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I hope that if I tell you that Hebrew and Arabic are not lisan of the Qur'an and their rules are men(and jinns)-made will be enough for you at least to think about it.
"a house is where you keep things" is from some lexicon, isn't it?
MoF, no, it's from the Qur'an. I don't see "common sense" as a solid huden.
Common sense is what is obvious without saying, and what is obviously sensible is clearly guidance.
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Peace,
Beyt is a house, the word goes back pretty far, just look at the pictogram B especially in ancient forms it's clearly a house. Hence the preposition b- in Hebrew, Arabic means in, with, etc because a house is where you keep things
Beyet is not necessarily a physical object. It can refer to the foundation of something.
In the case of Abraham, he established the first assembly for the people, this is what the ancient Arabic wishes to say.
Be well
Qarael Amenuel -
The most obvious aspect of spiders are webs. Are they their bait? Wakas link was right, I think in that respect, webs are the spider weapons or instruments to get their food.
The word bait has several meanings, but the primary meaning is that of shelter, abode, place where one stays. By extension might, only might, mean family, but that is not its primary and basic meaning. And when in the Qur'an the family of the prophet is mentionned, they are not called the bait but ahl-ul-bait.
Speaking about spiders, thanks to all the writers who have expounded on this beautiful and hardworking animal. It does reveal that the bait of the spider in fact is wherever it stays, which indeed is about the most voluble kind of beit, that is not a settled specifically appointed place.
But that is logical, spiders are not notorious for their homes, but for their hunting weapons. And those are indeed very remarkable.
Salaam
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peace all,
Evidence, logic and cross-reference within Quran is key.
That is how Quran teaches us to verify http//www.quran434.com/study-method.html
My motive/frequency/whatever is that you bring a lot of nonsense and present that as truth with nonsense evidence...
I agree with your analysis of Aladin's posts on this topic.
Beyet is not necessarily a physical object. It can refer to the foundation of something.
2127 And when Abraham was raising the foundations from/of the foundation...
Fail.
For those interested in a Quran based analysis of bayt, see here
http//mypercept.co.uk/articles/meaning-hajj-Quran.htmlShort summary to make it easier
?The things described as secure in these contexts are sanctuary/haram, town/land/balad, and shelter/bayt.
?Provision of fruits is associated in these contexts with the sanctuary/haram, people of the town/land/balad and people of the shelter/bayt.
?2791 makes clear that it is the town/land/balad that is the part made inviolable/restricted, and "this" clearly implies the town/land is finite/delimited, i.e. has spatial boundaries.
?1437 gives us an example of a shelter/bayt made inviolable.
?The only thing that Abraham asked to be made secure was the town/land/balad, and the only thing God explicitly made secure, in the context of Abraham, was the house/shelter/bayt. Are we told if God answered his prayer in AQ? Yes, if balad=bayt.There does seem to be enough overlap to suggest that in these contexts the bayt/shelter could refer to the balad/town/land. If so, this would make sense.
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Wakas, ru sure that it's not "postmenopausal" as in other ayet, instead of "foundations". Have you checked lexicons recently?
You couldn't find more idiotic way to prove your shirk (taking others as gods, ones you're slave of, besides/skipping Allah swt).
Please tell me this how foundations can be rised from THE HOUSE? I thought it's reverse the house can be rised from ITS foundations! OK, I know that you don't understand lisan of the Qur'an, there're zillion hijabs between your sight and it, but you can understand English and think about it (I'm not good in thinking in English, yet).
Please, don't come and say something which was not said in ayet, your ignorance and kibr can take you to some bad condition. Just think.
And, if you're going to think, please think about what I asked you here does "min dunillahi" include Allah, and if it doesn't, are Beni Israil humans?
