Ramadan
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Peace, Noon.
- Ramadan always first new month after full moon of summer solstice
Yes, this is the very truth.
false crescent???..hot crescent/full moon
16 June 2015???..16 June 2015/30 June
05 June 2016???..05 July 2016/19 July
26 May 2017???..23 June 2017/07 July
16 May 2018??.?12 June 2018/27 June
05 May 2019..?.?.01 July 2019/16 July-------1-----------2--------3-------4--------5--------6--------7-----------8-----------9-------10-------11------12-------13
16 Jun 2015-15 Jul-13 Aug-12 Sep-11 Oct-10 Nov-09 Dec-08 Jan 2016-07 Feb-08 Mar-07 Apr-07 May-05 June
05 Jul?The crescent of 05 June is full moon on 19 June
which rises before the longest daytime (June 21),
so it does not belong to the real shahr ramadan.The crescents, quarter moons, gibbouses, full moons?
which Allah ordained (3639) on the day He created the skies and the earth (936)
rise only in their fixed seasons of the solar year.Shahr ramadan/hot moon
rises in hot summer,
it never rises in cold winter.As I tried to explain before,
man can never postpone the 13th moon IN THE SKY because his hands can never reach there.
But they managed to do that ON PAPER which is falsely called islamic calendar-------1-----------2--------3-------4--------5--------6--------7-----------8-----------9-------10-------11------12-------13
16 Jun 2015-15 Jul-13 Aug-12 Sep-11 Oct-10 Nov-09 Dec-08 Jan 2016-07 Feb-08 Mar-07 Apr-07 May-
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Salamu alaykum Noon,
Ok I see your conundrum now. However, if you wake up on a deserted island with no one that knows about Ramadan, then how would you know about the Qur'an in the first place to even care one way or the other?
Again, I think some of us are reading too much into this. Remember some verses are clear and some are allegorical, don't take the allegorical verses over the clear ones is my advice.
As far as 2183-4 and 584 go, I guess we will have to agree to disagree on interpretations here Noon, as it seems clear to me that the expiation for not fasting one day is feeding one poor person.
Best regards and Salaam,
Clash.
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Ok I see your conundrum now. However, if you wake up on a deserted island with no one that knows about Ramadan, then how would you know about the Qur'an in the first place to even care one way or the other?
peace clash,
not my conundrum; again see cave example or let's place you along with other imams or 1,000 "scholars" whoever in a deep sleep/comma then awake you on some remote island or in middle of desert; we can give you any hadith books along with Qu'ran, etc. not tell you date/year or tell you wrong date/year ask you et al which month is ramadan? They'll all be clueless!
Again, I think some of us are reading too much into this. Remember some verses are clear and some are allegorical, don't take the allegorical verses over the clear ones is my advice.
As far as 2183-4 and 584 go, I guess we will have to agree to disagree on interpretations here Noon, as it seems clear to me that the expiation for not fasting one day is feeding one poor person.
nothing allegorical about clear verses and again you made an assumption "feed one poor per day" is not stated.
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Yes, this is the very truth.
peace brook, yes see below Ramadan (RMD) 1st new month after summer solstice full moon either hemisphere.
http//astropixels.com/ephemeris/phasescat/phases2001.html
summer solstice June 20-22 northern hemisphere
new shr# full moon year
Dec 29 6 Jan 12 2017
Jan 28 7 Feb 11
Feb 26 8 Mar 12
Mar 28 9 Apr 11
Apr 26 10 May 10
May 25 11 Jun 9
Jun 24 12 Jul 9
Jul 23 RMD Aug 7 (start fast new crescent ~July 24/25)
Aug 21 2 Sep 6
Sep 20 3 Oct 5
Oct 19 4 Nov 4
Nov 18 5 Dec 3
Dec 18 6 Jan 2 2018
Jan 17 7 Jan 31
Feb 15 8 Mar 2
Mar 17 9 Mar 31
Apr 16 10 Apr 30
May 15 11 May 29
Jun 13 12 Jun 28
Jul 13 RMD Jul 27
Aug 11 2 Aug 26
Sep 9 3 Sep 25
Oct 9 4 Oct 24
Nov 7 5 Nov 23
Dec 7 6 Dec 22
Jan 6 7 Jan 21 2019
Feb 4 8 Feb 19
Mar 6 9 Mar 21
Apr 5 10 Apr 19
May 4 11 May 18
Jun 3 12 Jun 17
Jul 2 13 skip Jul 16
Aug 1 RMD Aug 15
Aug 30 2 Sep 14
Sep 28 3 Oct 13
Oct 28 4 Nov 12
Nov 26 5 Dec 12
Dec 26 6 Jan 10 2020
Jan 24 7 Feb 9summer solstice Dec 20-23 southern hemisphere
new shr# full moon year
Dec 29 12 Jan 12 2017
Jan 28 RMD Feb 11 (start fast new crescent ~Jan 29/30)
Feb 26 2 Mar 12
Mar 28 3 Apr 11
Apr 26 4 May 10
May 25 5 Jun 9
Jun 24 6 Jul 9
Jul 23 7 Aug 7
Aug 21 8 Sep 6
Sep 20 9 Oct 5
Oct 19 10 Nov 4
Nov 18 11 Dec 3
Dec 18 12 Jan 2 2018
Jan 17 RMD Jan 31
Feb 15 2 Mar 2
Mar 17 3 Mar 31
Apr 16 4 Apr 30
May 15 5 May 29
Jun 13 6 Jun 28
Jul 13 7 Jul 27
Aug 11 8 Aug 26
Sep 9 9 Sep 25
Oct 9 10 Oct 24
Nov 7 11 Nov 23
Dec 7 12 Dec 22
Jan 6 RMD Jan 21 2019
Feb 4 2 Feb 19
Mar 6 3 Mar 21
Apr 5 4 Apr 19
May 4 5 May 18
Jun 3 6 Jun 17
Jul 2 7 Jul 16
Aug 1 8 Aug 15
Aug 30 9 Sep 14
Sep 28 10 Oct 13
Oct 28 11 Nov 12
Nov 26 12 Dec 12
Dec 26 13 skip Jan 10 2020
Jan 24 RMD Feb 92185 shahru/lunar cycle ramadan (heat) the one descends in it the Qur?an guidance to the humankind and clear signs from the guidance and the criterion so who witness among you l-shahra/the lunar cycle so should abstained it and who be illness of or on journey so count from days another intends the god with you the ease and not intends with you the hardship and to complete ye of l-idata/the count and to magnify ye of the god on what guide you and that may you thanks giving
936 indeed iddata/count l-shuhri/the lunar cycles near/with the god two dual ten (twelve) shahran/lunar cycle of in book the god day creation the heavens and the land therein quartet prohibit such the creed the value so not thou wrong ye of in them souls yours and fight ye of the idolaters all like/as what fighting you all and know ye of that the god with the righteous
937 only the postponement increase in the disregard misguided in it the ones disregard they of allowing it Aama/year of and prohibiting it Aama/year of to adjust count what prohibit the god so allow they of what prohibit the god beautified for them evil deeds theirs and the god not guided the folk the skeptics
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An ultimatum from Allah and his messenger
to the polytheists
with whom you have made a treaty (91)"Travel freely in the land FOUR MOONS." (92).
The ultimatum was declared
on the day when the believers entered Mecca to take their town back from the polytheists,
that is, June 16 of 630?s shahr ramadan.New moon? full moon
June 16???June 30http//astropixels.com/ephemeris/phasescat/phases0601.html
The reason why
the conqurers had to concede to a treaty of ceasefire
was thisIt was rather a short time before Mecca?s traditional feast days-hijaj (2827),
so the sellers had started to prepare their stalls and early comers were everywhere.
If the ceasefire were denied,
they might have been unwittingly trampled upon (4825).And on the day of the great pilgrimage
an announcement to the people from Allah and his mesenger
"If you repent, it is best for you?" (93).That was Dhul Hijjah,
second of the FOUR MOONS mentioned in 92,
and it was the time to perform the religious rites called hajj,
pilgrimage.Mecca?s commercial feasts and pilgrimage
were simultaneous,
and they happened at the same area.However,
you could not perform pilgrimage
during Dhul Hijjah (2196)When the FORBIDDEN moons have passed
kill the polytheists wherever you find them
(95).The FOUR MOONS are over,
so kill them
or they will kill you.When you meet the polythesits,
strike the necks until you overcome them.
Then tie them fast (474).To sum up
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The four forbidden months are successive,
They are not
3 together and 1? months apart.2
In the forbiddend moons
it is forbidden
to shed blood, hunting wild animals included (51-2, 595).3
Of the 4 forbidden moons
the first is Shahr Ramadan, hot moon
the scond is Dhul Hijjah, hajj moon. -
To sum up
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The four forbidden months are successive,
They are not
3 together and 1? months apart.Peace brook, yes there's an obvious difference between quartet (i.e. 4 group/together) and four (the number 4)...
92 so move about in the land quartet (i.e. group/together) ashhurin/lunar cycles and know ye of indeed you other than escape the god and that the god shames the skeptics
936 indeed iddata/count l-shuhri/the lunar cycles near/with the god two dual ten (twelve) shahran/lunar cycle of in book the god day creation the heavens and the land therein quartet (group) urumun/prohibit
244 and the ones accusing the guarded (f/p) furthermore not comes they of with quartet (group) witnesses
246 and the ones accusing spouses theirs and not that be for them witnesses except souls theirs so affirmation one of them four (4) affirmations in/by the god indeed he surely from the truthful
248 and it prevents upon her the punishment that she witness four (4) affirmations in/by the god that he to from the liars
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Salamu Alaykum Farati,
Don't let people get you confused. Ramadan is very clear, 30 days of fasting, dawn to dusk starting on Friday night 5/26 where I live insha'Allah this year of 2017. Fast with all of us! Do not be afraid. Once you fast a number of times you will see why this challenge is so good for all of us. Fasting will decrease the speed of your metabolism, which will allow you to eat less and use what you eat more efficiently throughout the year.
Decreasing the speed of your metabolism is not a good thing at all. It is a major cause of excess fat weight and loss of muscle tissue. Granted, we have to admit that fasting has its physiological importance in short term. But on a long term, diminishing returns set in. This is because long-term fasting can either result in significant decrease or increase in calorie ingested, two paths to increase body fat storage and weight gain.
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Completely disagree Neptim. A slow metabolism is great, as long as you do not eat too much. Really Ramadan in a sense trains you to not be such an over-consumer, as many people are today. It is a true blessing from God that he has given us this month to fast; I truly suggest you all fast it as prescribed.
"To manage your weight with a slow metabolism, you must lower your calorie intake. This could be beneficial, however. Calorie restriction can slow the aging process, help prevent diabetes, abdominal obesity, hypertension and cardiovascular disease and reduce your risk of certain cancers, according to the Federation of European Biochemical Societies" http//healthyeating.sfgate.com/advantages-slow-metabolism-9657.html
"Thyroid hormone plays a big role in regulating your metabolism and energy expenditure, and low levels of thyroid hormones correlate with a slow metabolism. A study published in a 2010 edition of "The Journal of Clinical Endocrinology and Metabolism" found that low thyroid activity correlates with an increased life expectancy. This could be due to the fact that with a faster metabolism, the body must work harder, putting it under more stress, notes obesity expert Dr. Joel Fuhrman." http//healthyeating.sfgate.com/advantages-slow-metabolism-9657.html
God is helping you live longer by completing the month of fasting for Ramadan, that is why he says "Fasting is better for, if you only knew".
Best regards and Salaam,
Clash.
