Your stand on alcohol consumption based on Quran
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Imran,you told me once that even a four year old will understand some words.
So,you avoid Shaytan but you do not avoid his works?
What is wrong with this logic brother?
Common, you are cleverer than that!
Do not come anywhere near any of his works including "Khamr". How can this not be simple?
GOD bless you.
Peacepeace Gl i asked what verse say and how it was said
replace gambling and alcohol with laptop and gun
then tell what should we avoid the devilish actions by these two things or the things ?
this time just tell a proper grammer sentence what we start studying in school at early age
God bless u -
What has 4715 to do with khamr in this world?
Besides, that is an allegory about a different world.Two completely different worlds, and way of life.
May be some think this is paradise!!!!
Different worlds/bodies,different ways/rules/life. For example in this one you die,in the other world...etc.
GOD bless you.
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they ask you about laptop and mobile tell them there harms are more than benefits
the laptop(porn& casino) and mobile(disturbance) are works of devil avoid from laptop and mobile so that you get successful
in heavens there are rivera of laptop and mobiles which are delicious for the drinkers 19 D laptop technology of heavens lol withour any online casino in it or cyber crime police -
Imran,you often play this game of grammar.
Well,the "singular "Hu" could apply to "Rijs" or "Shaytan? As a matter of fact it does not matter both should be avoided. Shaytan works is "Rijs" which include "Khamr"...Avoid Shaytan means avoid the "Rijs mean avoid "Khamr".
I give you my take,simple and easy to grasp.
I am not willing to follow your line of debate after this.
My opinion and my understanding .
You are entitled to yours also,except I fail to see why you dispute this?
GOD bless you.
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Imran,you often play this game of grammar.
Well,the "singular "Hu" could apply to "Rijs" or "Shaytan? As a matter of fact it does not matter both should be avoided.so we are not sure yet what grammer is saying there becoz you cannot apply to both of them at same time otherwise we can say there is a gramner mistake and God dnt do mistakes isnt it
or we have to select the way we want it(wishful thinking) based on neglecting grammer rules -
I shall have one more go ,hopefully your game will end here.
Verse says "Rijsun min amali shaytan" then "Fajtanibuhu"
It does not matter which one you chose to apply your precious grammar to,GOD means they both lead .i.e to Avoid the lot.1)If the "hu" in "Fajtanibuhu" applies to "Rijs" this will lead to avoid all the works of Shaytan and Shayrtan -All connected-.
2) if the "hu",,,applies to "Shaytan" this will lead to avoid shaytan and his "Rijs" which means all his works.The grammar of GOD ,amazingly here ,leads to "Avoid the works of Shaytan which is "Rijs" which include the "Khamr".
Thank you for the conversation brother.
GOD bless you.
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I shall have one more go ,hopefully your game will end here.
Verse says "Rijsun min amali shaytan" then "Fajtanibuhu"
It does not matter which one you chose to apply your precious grammar to,GOD means they both lead .i.e to Avoid the lot.1)If the "hu" in "Fajtanibuhu" applies to "Rijs" this will lead to avoid all the works of Shaytan and Shayrtan -All connected-.
2) if the "hu",,,applies to "Shaytan" this will lead to avoid shaytan and his "Rijs" which means all his works.The grammar of GOD ,amazingly here ,leads to "Avoid the works of Shaytan which is "Rijs" which include the "Khamr".
Thank you for the conversation brother.
GOD bless you.
Peace.my game huh? elektro
used a wrong grammer again anyway forget it lets come back to the topic
590 O you who acknowledge, intoxicants, and gambling, and altars, and arrows of chance are tools of affliction used by the devil. You shall avoid him so that you may be successful. (you shall avoid him not THEM)
591 The devil only wants to cause strife between you through intoxicants and gambling, and to repel you away from remembering God and from the contact prayer. Will you then desist?
590 O you the ones who believe indeed the inebriant and the gambling and the monuments and the arrows filth from work the devil so avoid him that you may prosper
591 indeed intends the devil that cause between you the hostility and the hatred in the inebriant and the gambling and hinder you about remembrance The God and from the prayer so shall you (be) those who abstain?
ur point one and point two in the light of grammer are clearly a best example of gymnastic and wishful thinking specially in gymnastic there are lot of moves like you bring two steps with respect to wrong structure of interpretation
here you go another move this time
1667 and from fruits the date palm and the grapes you take from it sakaran/intoxicant and provision good indeed in that surely a sign for people who reasonawww this time mr devil and rijs both are missing
game just started my lovely brother and you declare the result not so fair giveup -
Imran,you know I am not interested in playing games,including those of chance. I avoid them.
Anyway, you can avoid just the devil if you want,
I avoid his "Rijs" that include "khamr" as well . By your logic you should not avoid gambling and the rest?
So, really that is all there is to say from me.
Thank you once again .
GOD bless you.
Peace. -
I shall have one more go ,hopefully your game will end here.
Verse says "Rijsun min amali shaytan" then "Fajtanibuhu"
It does not matter which one you chose to apply your precious grammar to,GOD means they both lead .i.e to Avoid the lot.1)If the "hu" in "Fajtanibuhu" applies to "Rijs" this will lead to avoid all the works of Shaytan and Shayrtan -All connected-.
2) if the "hu",,,applies to "Shaytan" this will lead to avoid shaytan and his "Rijs" which means all his works.The grammar of GOD ,amazingly here ,leads to "Avoid the works of Shaytan which is "Rijs" which include the "Khamr".
Thank you for the conversation brother.
GOD bless you.
Peace.I think the hu, refers to "rijs", the rijs that are all thouse things that are mentionned, the rijs min 3amali sh-shaytaan.
As to khamr in Paradise, great, I am all for it, but here we are not yet in Paradise and we know that speech about Paradise and Jahannam in Qur'an are mathal, so we take it from there, and keep the mathal for Pardise, here on earth khamr is not mathal but rijsun min 3amalish-shaytan.
On the other hand we already know all there is to know about this. Those who are determined to drink and feel good about it or to defend that stand, will find their permission to drink, even if they do not need it, since we are all free. Finding approval from others is not needed either and finding approval from God is between God and them. So, really, the rest is bandwidth usage.
Salaam
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i think and if are best words introduce by language in which we have lot of margins and wishful thinkings too
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Imran,you know I am not interested in playing games,including those of chance. I avoid them.
Anyway, you can avoid just the devil if you want,
I avoid his "Rijs" that include "khamr" as well . By your logic you should not avoid gambling and the rest?
So, really that is all there is to say from me.
Thank you once again .
GOD bless you.
Peace.aww brother hahahaha u said i m playing games
and i was just discussing grammer not games
then i start playing grammer grammer yes mama
eating sugar no mama
becoz sugar is a dangerous thing to consume
if u use sugar for diabities patient it considered as work of devil so stay away from sugarGod bless you and yeh i always try to avoid devil but his tools are unable to avoid like laptop, mobile
guns, cameras, perfumes (specially one million is my fav always have in my cupboard) may God forgive me for using my fav brand and other satanic things line singing is also unable to avoid
i dnt know how to avoid all this
although mouthwash got alcohol so i m using "miswak" now a days just kidding -
Alcohol isnt haram...
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grammer grammer little star
how i wonder what you are?ups above the word(instead of world) so high
like a diamond in the skybrother submitter is it haram to say lies about God?
ok tell me one more thing what is the catagory of mixing truth with falsehood? partially haram isnt it -
grammer grammer little star
how i wonder what you are?ups above the word(instead of world) so high
like a diamond in the skybrother submitter is it haram to say lies about God?
ok tell me one more thing what is the catagory of mixing truth with falsehood? partially haram isnt itSaying lies about God is a sin! 450.
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Saying lies about God is a sin! 4.50.
exactly handshake
lie is also a sin ? let say if someone want to kill somebody and i lied to safe his life is it a sin?
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exactly handshake
lie is also a sin ? let say if someone want to kill somebody and i lied to safe his life is it a sin?
This is tricky ;D
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This is tricky ;D
haha not really tricky
this time the tool of lie is useless for devil
so he make me think of speaking truth and he successful this time by using the tool of truth
poor person lose his life and i will have aleast one virgin in heaven for speaking truth peacesometimes both tools didnt work for devil and he bring the third tool afraid of threating so i refuse to give a shelter to person due to fear of my own life risk this tool is tricky actually becoz instead of fearing God we fear from something else
temptdevil is a piece of shit lol his only mission is to destroy us by whatever means