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The Qur'an is corrupted in translation and text is alter how can it be trusted?

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    scarface2890
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    i dont like god, god is fucking fear but allah is powerfull hahahahhahaha

    there no god except allah
    man i know what is allah i dont bullshit i been bad now i try good man i dont pray or go to black cube it is shrik

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      scarface2890
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      u know better im fucking deaf not good write in forum but if i find out about that then i will put bomb C-4 black cube then say fuck idol

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        Humans have made errors in copying the mushafs ,these errors are known , they make no difference to the text as a whole or the meaning of it.
        The different versions may have small errors of spellings,but orally, millions of those who recite Qoran are synchronised and the readings are identical. GOD has been overseeing its journey throughout.
        GOD has seen to it that every letter,every word ,every sentence and every surah are connected in such a way that we can easily detect these error.

        Look at the threads that discussed these issues.

        Also Qoran is the only book in the human history that has always been transmitted orally and to this day it keeps on being transmitted that way. This is another miracle and phenomenon that cannot be compared to any other scripture or book. This also confirms that errors/changes are minimum.

        Yes,there are errors and small variations ,but the overall message and meaning have stayed intact.

        I am absolutely amazed at how people doubt , is any human capable of writing such a book? I do not think they can change it even if they wanted to,their knowledge is far inferior to what is there!!!.. At best they may add or take away pieces of it!!!And that will stand out like a sore thumb.

        Anyway, the more I read it, the more I have no doubt whatsoever that it cannot be human made. But that is me.
        Also Qoran says believe in it or do not believe in it. Your choice.
        GOD bless.
        Peace.

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          scarface2890
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          how u know millions of those who recite quran

          all history is rewrite by illuminati get it huh

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            scarface2890
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            illuminati made jew and christianand fake muslim in old world order

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              scarface2890
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              u think illuminati fake i will Smile

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                scarface2890
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                good logic are u worship to god? and how u worship hahahahahahahahahahahahahahha wait LOYALTY TO GOD lie i think u loyalty to illuminati

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                  Abdun_Nur
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                  Scarface is expressing the religious mind, which is always founded on gibberish, nonsense and stupidity. A man with no self respect clearly.

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                    scarface2890
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                    all my life i dream see future all my fucking life. 1st da vinci code then is hearing voices send me future i dont lie i dont bullshit my friend black know me say u right about black cube pray whatever

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                      scarface2890
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                      hahah i have deen how i have religious if i dont pray or love fear to god and faith and belief hahahahahahahha sure im bad cos voices made me happen to be bad they is smart then u think

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                        scarface2890
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                        why call me pity anmals cannot write in forum from huruf huh

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                          scarface2890
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                          im easy get angry

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                            good_logic
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                            scarface,me no illuminati,me no mafia,me no angry,me no swear,me happy.
                            Oh and me good logic.
                            GOD bless you.
                            Peace.

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                              scarface2890
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                              before i hearing voices i alway nice to my freind now im fuck up to allah coz voices put my brain like black magic
                              what the fuck i kew all People hide from me dat why im piss off

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                                scarface2890
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                                good for u good logic, hard to not angry, me happy about allah

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                                  scarface2890
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                                  Abdun Nur i been read http//servantofthelight.com 2011 or something it religious, u religious huh

                                  everone have own deen i know

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                                    Man_of_Faith
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                                    Scarface is expressing the religious mind, which is always founded on gibberish, nonsense and stupidity. A man with no self respect clearly.

                                    Please demonstrate to us what a mind should be founded on then?

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                                      scarface2890
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                                      call me X coz Malcolm X

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                                        Abdun_Nur
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                                        A mind should be founded on reason man of faith.

                                        I asked the question why do you trust the Qur?an because if it is now corrupted? I asked because I believe it is of value only if understood in its original form.

                                        This being the case then the focus would be to determine, at all costs, the original message from those of the past, if you believe this message is of value, and i think it's of great value if objectively translated free of personal bias, I know you, man of faith, you're working on a translation, however I have seen your translation and it is not translated impartially, it is nonobjective. You're investing you own beliefs and prejudices into your efforts.

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                                          Confusing an Explanation with an Excuse Wakas, that is called the fallacy of rationalization, you seem to admit it's both corrupted in translation and differs from the original, but present excuses,

                                          What you claim as "excuses" I call explaining the reality of the situation. Please cite one statement I made that is factually incorrect.

                                          I never once talked about "translation", nor state it differs from the original. Your pseudo-intellectual reply fails to grasp what I even said. Strawman fallacy anyone?

                                          anyway the reality is the original understanding is very hard to unearth and so the guide presently is lost, excusing that does not alter or help that reality,

                                          very hard to unearth = lost ?

                                          Fallacy https//yourlogicalfallacyis.com/personal-incredulity

                                          Think of Quran like buried treasure, heaped upon it are piles upon piles of dirt/obfuscation (traditional hadith laden exegesis, countless scholars, traditions, sectarianism, politics etc) and those in the Quran based islam movement have picked up the shovels and started digging. Well, not all of us, for some like you, looks like you've given up digging.

                                          until the guide translates into a guide to those systems it will remain lost.

                                          In other words guide is lost until it conforms to AN's views/assumptions. Your illogical reasoning is plain for all to see

                                          https//yourlogicalfallacyis.com/begging-the-question

                                          All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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