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What is the cause of existence of the Universe we live in?

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    The_Sardar
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    What is the cause of existence of the Universe we live in?

    Students of philosophy may like to enlighten us.

    You forgot to put link.

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      Mazhar
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      No link. It is a question.

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        The_Sardar
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        No link. It is a question.

        Oh my apologies then.

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          mike789
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          There's no Universe. It is part of Satan's deception to hide God and make people feel insignificant. The sky decorated by lights/stars is a physical structure or dome above the flat Earth. We are surrounded by an ice wall. The Sun and the moon are small relative to the size of the flat Earth. The Sun is local not 93 million miles away. For scientific evidence Google Flat Earth

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            HP_TECH
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            Define cause.

            The Prime Mover. Allah the Doer of what He Intends. Simple.

            If per chance by cause you are inquiring about method 419-12

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              No longer a Sunna-rejecter
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              There's no Universe. It is part of Satan's deception to hide God and make people feel insignificant. The sky decorated by lights/stars is a physical structure or dome above the flat Earth. We are surrounded by an ice wall. The Sun and the moon are small relative to the size of the flat Earth. The Sun is local not 93 million miles away. For scientific evidence Google Flat Earth

              bravo

              "Al ardi" = land, not globe.
              "Al samaa" = sky, not universe

              Our world is al samawati wa al ardi, not "space and the globe."

              https//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9608640.msg410971#msg410971

              https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhRiLP32qfs

              https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-G2aiVoeu8&t=635s (has short bits of lewdness by editor)

              https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkEL4yBJxm8

              I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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                good_logic
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                What is the radius of the sun? And what is the radius of the earth?
                Or do you say we cannot measure them?
                Can we still argue about mathematics these days?
                GOD bless our eyes, mind and simple logic.
                Peace.

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                  What is the radius of the sun? And what is the radius of the earth?
                  Or do you say we cannot measure them?
                  Can we still argue about mathematics these days?
                  GOD bless our eyes, mind and simple logic.
                  Peace.

                  Can YOU measure them?
                  The mathematics of your false paradigm do not add up.
                  Ask yourself how these distances are measured.

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                    good_logic
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                    Peace HP_TECH.

                    How do I measure distances and diameters? Well not me personally but this
                    https//www.nationalgeographic.org/activity/planetary-size-and-distance-comparison/

                    If you are going to come back with conspiracies and false Science, then we have been there before.
                    We have discussed the day, night, time zones, shapes of planets including the earth etc
                    I am happy to discuss distances , sizes , and radiuses of planets and certain stars...If you wish.
                    As long as day and night keep rolling, and both of us are here, I would not mind.
                    GOD bless you.
                    Peace.

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                      Cerberus
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                      What is the cause of existence of the Universe we live in?

                      A container exist for its content

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                        And where is the evidence of this?

                        He literally said google Flat Earth.
                        The evidence is EVERYWHERE, some refuse to accept it.
                        Akin to the manner in which evidence of The Creator and His Rahm is EVERYWHERE yet those who conceal the truth refuse to admit it.

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                          Peace HP_TECH.

                          How do I measure distances and diameters? Well not me personally but this
                          https//www.nationalgeographic.org/activity/planetary-size-and-distance-comparison/

                          If you are going to come back with conspiracies and false Science, then we have been there before.
                          We have discussed the day, night, time zones, shapes of planets including the earth etc
                          I am happy to discuss distances , sizes , and radiuses of planets and certain stars...If you wish.
                          As long as day and night keep rolling, and both of us are here, I would not mind.
                          GOD bless you.
                          Peace.

                          That does not even remotely answer my question.

                          It does not address how sizes and distances are measured.

                          Your failure to provide proper explanation is a clear indication of either your utter lack of understanding of the matter at hand or yet another attempt at question dodging on your behalf.

                          https//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Question_dodging

                          1)How do YOU know what you claim to be a fact is factual since, we are indulging in false science and conspiracies?

                          2)So what is the difference between accepting the information you are getting from that website albeit it is irrelevant and the information some others are relaying to you?

                          3)Why do you choose that information over another set of information?

                          4)Are you an absolute expert in the field and have conducted many studies and therefore have investigated all aspects and all theoretical possibilities?

                          It is rather you, latching onto false "Science". Words and numbers that have been repeated for centuries so you take them as truths. Have you no shame? The time will soon come when the truth will be laid bare, then you will be abased for your obstinance against the reality of the creation of your Lord and your supporting and following of corruption without ANY knowledge having come to you from Him and without application of judgement.

                          Believe as you will but do not label this or that as false when the foundations of your home are weaker than the one of the spider.

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                            Noon_waalqalami
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                            Can YOU measure them?
                            The mathematics of your false paradigm do not add up.
                            Ask yourself how these distances are measured.

                            peace, suggest basic math class ponder next time use smart phone for directions i.e. GPS.

                            Law of Cosines
                            http//hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/imgmth/lcos.gif

                            Eratosthenes of Cyrene (Born 276 BC, Cyrene, Libya) was a mathematician.

                            This illustration shows how Eratosthenes actually calculated the circumference of the Earth. At noon on the summer solstice, Eratosthenes measured the length of the shadow cast by a column of known height at Alexandria. With these two lengths, he could solve for the angle between them (&#952.
                            https//aamboceanservice.blob.core.windows.net/oceanservice-prod/education/kits/geodesy/media/geo02a_700.gif

                            https//s8.postimg.org/5abc5wnw5/MA_VI_165_Quran_ch25v35-45.jpg

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                              Jafar
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                              What is the cause of existence of the Universe we live in?

                              Because a dude ate a fruit which was forbidden for him to eat...

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                                good_logic
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                                Peace HP_TECH.

                                According to you some facts about earth and our universe are conspiracies and false Science.
                                According to me, from what I clearly see and reason out of what is available in Science of our universe, they are facts.

                                Measuring distances has long been established
                                Astronomers can use parallax to find distances to objects much farther even than planets. To calculate the distance to a star, astronomers observe it from different places along Earth's orbit around the Sun. If they measure the object's position several months apart, their "two eyes" will have a separation of well over 100 million miles!
                                Now astronomers have technologies to measure distances to other planets more directly. We can send a powerful radar signal toward a planet and time how long it takes for the echo to return. Astronomers know how fast these signals travel (the speed of light), so measuring how long they take makes it easy to calculate the distance very accurately.
                                Yes brother, VERY ACCURATELY.
                                Likewise, it is up to you what to believe, I am just surprised at your Science!!!!
                                GOD bless you.
                                Peace.

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                                  good_logic
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                                  Let us just consider the sun, Do you think Science knows about this star much ?
                                  Of course they do. Life on earth would be impossible if earth and the sun were not at the distance they are now, about 93,000,000 miles.
                                  GOD has placed the earth at the exact distance from the sun for life to be possible.
                                  -Wa kulla shaiin Kaddarnahu Takdeera- Everything was measured precisely by the Maker.
                                  Or give us your take on the sun and how far exactly it is from earth?
                                  God bless.
                                  Peace.

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                                    Abdun_Nur
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                                    The universe is the product of consciousness, all is thought, you have consciousness which is fractal in nature, this allows a shared perceptual reality, as only a single consciousness exists, there is a simple dichotomy of everything (thought) in opposition to absolute pure nothingness, and just as with most dichotomies it is asymmetrical, just like blackness underpins light, and silence underpins sound, nothingness underpins thought.

                                    I did write an essay explaining how this came about, many years ago. There is no God, there is a fractal form ever growing, no separation, closer than your jugular vein, to have a god would require something other, and nothing other exists, only a single consciousness fractal structured, and the product of that collective (fractal) and dichotomous single consciousness, thought.

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                                      good_logic
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                                      There will be many other new conspiracies once this happens
                                      Human and other missions to the Moon are planned by India, China and Russia, as well as Japan and Europe. South Korea and North Korea are also looking toward the Moon.

                                      I think more nails on the coffin of a flat earth . Let us wait and see what develops?
                                      GOD bless.
                                      Peace

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                                        No longer a Sunna-rejecter
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                                        There will be many other new conspiracies once this happens
                                        Human and other missions to the Moon are planned by India, China and Russia, as well as Japan and Europe. South Korea and North Korea are also looking toward the Moon.

                                        I think more nails on the coffin of a flat earth . Let us wait and see what develops?
                                        GOD bless.
                                        Peace

                                        Your username is ironic at this point. Still no one has or can refute the following properly to my knowledge

                                        https//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9608640.msg410971#msg410971

                                        I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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                                          good_logic
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                                          Peace progressive.

                                          Wait ,I am also waiting.
                                          I have read your stuff, at the beginning of the journey there are many obstacles. You are hitting few of them at the moments in many threads. There are still contradictions,dogmas and misconceptions in your views in my opinion.
                                          Too eager and enthusiastic. Have patience and keep studying.
                                          Please forgive my honest and sincere feedback.
                                          May the Lord help you to overcome some of these obstacles.
                                          GOD bless you.
                                          Peace

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