If God has a Nafs, and all Nafs shall taste death, then ... ?
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Salamun Alaykum
There's something that has been bothering me, 3185 says that all Nafs (Soul, mind whatever you want to call it) shall taste death, while 5116 shows that even God has a Nafs. I think you know what I mean, can someone please help me understand this?
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Peace Fallen Angel.
This is from my understanding
" Nafs" Means everyone of us/person tastes death.
Jesus is talking " Nafsi" Means " me"ie (You know my thoughts) " MA FI Nafsika" Means I do not know your thoughts.
Jesus personified " GOD". We call GOD by some " names". It does not mean GOD is a " nafs"?
Only my understanding!
Peace.
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That is right. It is 3isa speaking and uses words which reflect his humanity. It is not God who says He has a nafs.
On the other hand, nafs is used in the Qur'an in the sense of person, has good logic has pointed out.
So within it it makes sense that God comes through as a "person", because He communicates wiht persons and we might say sets Himself in a verbal vessel that we can grasp. God we cannot grasp, God speaking to us we may grasp what he wants to say.
Salaam
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Peace Fallen Angel.
God also makes the exception ( about not perishing/tasting death) elsewhere in Qoran.
5526 Everyone on earth perishes.?
5527 Only the presence of your Lord lasts. Possessor of Majesty and Honour.?
Peace.
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Ah I totally forgot about that verse (5527), thanks both of you
Peace
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Yeah me too. Always good remembering Allah (SWTAY) signs.
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peace brother
nafs = creation
life = timeperiod of the body/self
death = expiry of body/self
life and death are created by God hence both are creation tooso by default he is not a creation so rules of creation cannot b applied to the God
( every creation shall taste its expiry )
Blessing in the name of God
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Nafs = One's person or self. It's likened by a seed (which may grow or rotten away) if you look into etymological data via old lexicons.
Life, if it's about being alive = It's about the conscious as an independent being as opposed to being dead which refers to the autonomy of being when one is mindlessly following the human bodily nature.
Death = One can be dead even if seemingly alive in a body while it's a mere illusion and we often dwell among (mentally) dead people without realizing it. If the Nafs isn't grown then one is more or less dead and that is because the mind isn't conceived or activated which is the actual seed to grow.
/Manny
You know when i think of death, i feel like we are in a dream and when we ''die'' we actually wake up in the Hereafter.
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( every creation shall taste its expiry )
That's true from single cellular life up to stars and galaxy.
And the same thing also hold for something as abstract as language, nations/empire, religion / ideology.Everything that has a beginning shall have an end...
You know when i think of death, i feel like we are in a dream and when we ''die'' we actually wake up in the Hereafter.
Such idea is being heavily discussed nowadays...
Study reveals substantial evidence of holographic universe
https//phys.org/news/2017-01-reveals-substantial-evidence-holographic-universe.html"A holographic Universe means information that makes up what we perceive as a 3D reality is stored on a 2D surface, including time. This means, essentially, everything you see and experience is an illusion, like a 'computer game'."
The 'inspiration' came from the findings of 2 dimensional object dubbed "Black Hole" which occupies and sucked everything inside 3 dimensional space. Well 4 dimensional actually... as black hole sucked space and time...
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Such idea is being heavily discussed nowadays...
Study reveals substantial evidence of holographic universe
https//phys.org/news/2017-01-reveals-substantial-evidence-holographic-universe.html"A holographic Universe means information that makes up what we perceive as a 3D reality is stored on a 2D surface, including time. This means, essentially, everything you see and experience is an illusion, like a 'computer game'."
The 'inspiration' came from the findings of 2 dimensional object dubbed "Black Hole" which occupies and sucked everything inside 3 dimensional space. Well 4 dimensional actually... as black hole sucked space and time...
Huh.....interesting.
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That's true from single cellular life up to stars and galaxy.
And the same thing also hold for something as abstract as language, nations/empire, religion / ideology.Everything that has a beginning shall have an end...
exactly.
i highlighted this in one of ur threadSuch idea is being heavily discussed nowadays...
Study reveals substantial evidence of holographic universe
https//phys.org/news/2017-01-reveals-substantial-evidence-holographic-universe.html"A holographic Universe means information that makes up what we perceive as a 3D reality is stored on a 2D surface, including time. This means, essentially, everything you see and experience is an illusion, like a 'computer game'."
The 'inspiration' came from the findings of 2 dimensional object dubbed "Black Hole" which occupies and sucked everything inside 3 dimensional space. Well 4 dimensional actually... as black hole sucked space and time...
near death experience people claimed they found themselves in a unending hole like a tunnel
somepeople even claim to see their elders in a garden like place
and some saw a fire like placewhy human being cannot get rid of fear
