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Death by God's leave

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    farati
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    Salam,

    The Quran (3145) states that only by God's will death may occur at appointed time. My questions are

    1. Isn't committing a suicide or murder a violation of God's willexistence of death? Since it is stated that nothing can violate it?

    2. If it doesn't violate and it is not his will, then why would he punish a murderer or a suicider for the cause of death? Since it isis his will that they died?

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      reel
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      This is how I see God's will

      Will=Formula

      People can choose which one they want. They also have the tool to control the randomness, but it is usually kept at bay by those who give preference to group think.

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        imrankhawaja
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        i see it in a different way

        suicide bomb attack ( if there is a will of God in that blast ) it will take place

        if the mission get unsuccessful then it was also the will of God

        he do what he wish according to the laws design by him

        but we cant understand his laws by this human mind perhaps the very same confusion occured between traveller and moses

        sometimes he save people from suicide bomb,robbery,rape,losses etc

        sometimes it happen even how hard you try to save it becoz its the will of God

        the beautiful thing is every single second is a mysterious one in this time place

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          bagyane
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          Salam,

          The Quran (3145) states that only by God's will death may occur at appointed time. My questions are

          1. Isn't committing a suicide or murder a violation of God's willexistence of death? Since it is stated that nothing can violate it?

          2. If it doesn't violate and it is not his will, then why would he punish a murderer or a suicider for the cause of death? Since it isis his will that they died?

          The arabic term ?kitaban mu?ajjala? as stated in 3143 was further elucidated as two periods that is ajlan (a period) wa (and) ajlan musamma (a specified period) in verse 62

          the link below might be a resource
          https//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9608149.msg381795#msg381795

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            Jafar
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            1. Isn't committing a suicide or murder a violation of God's willexistence of death? Since it is stated that nothing can violate it?

            2. If it doesn't violate and it is not his will, then why would he punish a murderer or a suicider for the cause of death? Since it isis his will that they died?

            Nothing can "violate" God's will and plan..
            From tiny cells and atoms up to something as powerful as Stars and Blackhole

            Thus one need to rethink the concept of (2)

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