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Aya 2.61 Which prophets were killed?

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    huruf
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    2.61

    And remember ye said "O Moses! we cannot endure one kind of food (always); so beseech thy Lord for us to produce for us of what the earth groweth, -its pot-herbs, and cucumbers, Its garlic, lentils, and onions." He said "Will ye exchange the better for the worse? Go ye down to any town, and ye shall find what ye want!" They were covered with humiliation and misery; they drew on themselves the wrath of Allah. This because they went on rejecting the Signs of Allah and slaying His Messengers without just cause. This because they rebelled and went on transgressing. (61)

    This is referring to Musa and his people. Up to Musa, which prophets had they killed? Any notice of prophets killed before that? Or does this refer to selling the ayas cheap and the killing refers to later times. At any rate, any mention of the prophets that were killed?

    Salaam

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      Peace huruf.
      As far as I understand the ayat, GOD is addressing Beni Israeel at the time of Qoran. Hence GOD is going through their history from the time of Moses to that present(When Qoran was revealed,7th Century). So the killing of the Messengers would have been after Moses. i.e sometimes between them times, including Jesus time.
      GOD bless you.
      Peace.

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        So, before or after or at the same time, which prophets did they kill?

        Salaam

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          Peace huruf.
          All I know for sure is what Qoran says.
          GOD is saying every time a prophet messenger or messenger was sent to them, some they did not believe and ridiculed or some they killed.

          I take it you want verses from Qoran of the prophets they killed?
          Well If Qoran did not give details, then I cannot confirm for you which. What we have in history is disputable as Qoran is the only criteria you will accept.
          For example John the Baptist, Jesus and some others before them during the reign of the kingdoms after David...

          However if Qoran says they killed some ,then I believe they did. For me the details are irrelevant .
          Hope that helps.
          GOD bless you.
          Peace.

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            I have the idea some are mentionned int he Qur'an. Not Yahia, nor 3isa but others, but my idea is foggy. I thought somebody might have a clearer recollection or knowlege.

            Salaam

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              I have the idea some are mentionned int he Qur'an. Not Yahia, nor 3isa but others, but my idea is foggy. I thought somebody might have a clearer recollection or knowlege.

              Salaam

              Salaam huruf

              I do not think that Quran mentions any names of prophets who were killed by bani israel.

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                Thank you for your answers.

                I did not mean to restrict it to Bani Israil, but killed by whoever., any prophet killed by people.

                Thank you again.

                Salaam

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                  Tehere are in the Qur'an at least six mentions of prophets being slain.

                  Since none of those mentionned with name is mentionned as being killed, it would seem that the number of prophets may have been larger than the mention in the Qur'an, just of the people familiar with the previous stories of the recievers of the Qur'an at the time of revelation.

                  I guess the number of prophets slain worldwide may be high, if those in the circle of the Qura'nic revelation are anything to go by.

                  Which also says that those who follow the true messages of God may have it easy, but not less may have it crude. Truth many times is very unwellcome.

                  Salaam

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                    The basic meanings of the word which is erroneously translated as "slaying" is character assassination.

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                      The basic meanings of the word which is erroneously translated as "slaying" is character assassination.

                      Thank you. I have been telling the same in my circle but no one believes it. For then qatala means to kill .

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                        I do not think that root q-t-l means always necessarily kill, but I think in the Qur'an many times it means that. Take ayas from 5.27 to 32. I think it means kill. I have no reason to believe in the case where God speaks of killing prophets does not also mean or include int he meaning the fact of killing them. With Musa they were close.

                        Salaam

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                          I do not think that root q-t-l means always necessarily kill, but I think in the Qur'an many times it means that. Take ayas from 5.27 to 32. I think it means kill. I have no reason to believe in the case where God speaks of killing prophets does not also mean or include int he meaning the fact of killing them. With Musa they were close.

                          Salaam

                          You are correct, it doesn't. Here is the root word Qaf-Ta-Lam ( &#1604 = to kill, put to death, be accused, slay/murder/kill/slaughter, attempt to kill, render person like to one killed, to wage war/combat/battle, to master, contend/fight, deadly, knew a thing thoroughly/well, become acquainted with it.

                          qatala vb. (I)
                          perf. act. 272, 2251, 3183, 492, 4157, 4157, 4157, 530, 532, 532, 595, 595, 6140, 817, 1874, 1874, 2040, 2819, 2833
                          impf. act. 261, 285, 287, 291, 321, 321, 3112, 429, 492, 493, 527, 528, 528, 570, 595, 6151, 6151, 7150, 817, 830, 9111, 1210, 1731, 1733, 2568, 2614, 289, 2819, 2820, 2833, 3326, 4026, 4028, 6012
                          impv. 254, 2191, 2191, 466, 489, 491, 95, 129, 2924, 4025
                          perf. pass. 3144, 3154, 3156, 3157, 3158, 3168, 3169, 3195, 1733, 2258, 474, 5110, 7419, 7420, 8017, 819, 854
                          impf. pass. 2154, 474, 9111
                          n. vb. 2191, 2217, 3154, 3181, 4155, 530, 6137, 1731, 1733, 3316

                          qatala n.m. (pl. of qatil) - 2178,

                          qattala vb. (II)
                          impf. act. 7127, 7141
                          perf. pass. 3361
                          impf. pass. 533,
                          n. vb. 3361

                          qatala vb. (III)
                          perf. act. 2191, 3146, 3195, 490, 930, 3320, 4822, 5710, 5710, 609, 634
                          impf. act. 2190, 2191, 2191, 2217, 2246, 2246, 2246, 313, 3111, 474, 474, 475, 476, 476, 490, 490, 490, 913, 936, 983, 9111, 4816, 5914, 608, 614, 7320
                          impv. 2190, 2193, 2244, 3167, 476, 484, 524, 839, 912, 914, 929, 936, 9123, 499
                          perf. pass. 5911, 5912
                          impf. pass. 2239
                          n. vb. 2216, 2217, 2217, 2246, 2246, 3121, 3167, 477, 477, 816, 865, 3325, 4720

                          iqtatala vb. (VIII) perf. act. 2253, 2253, 499, impf. act. 2815

                          LL, V8, p 238 ## http//ejtaal.net/aa/#q=qtl

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                            Peace,

                            The Quran has ayats about conflict/and being at war, and in war we sometimes kill
                            and sometimes are killed, as unpleasant and as devastating as conflict can be
                            this is what happens. Which prophets where killed? I am not aware of
                            prophets who where killed mentioned in the Quran.

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