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Adam's sons story

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    NewFrenzy
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    Peace,

    In the story of Adam's sons in Quran, how did one of the son's offering accepted by God? I mean how did he know that his offering was accepted? Who told him?

    Thanks,
    NK

    he was pious and God except only from righteous.
    Adam told him that.

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      Jafar
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      Peace jafar.
      younare saying this to me? Quote

      You saw Adam's sons performed their offering?
      Thus you can say you see no smoke or fire?

      Of course I was there!!!!, I used to play with both of them as a child????

      Then you met their parent too?
      What did you guys usually play with as a child?

      Just show me where it says about smoke and fire in the story since none of us have there.

      Like I said, my murabbi said the offering was burnt by fire, the smoke rise directly to heaven for Abel and to the side for Cain. when I asked him the same question during my childhood time in Madrassa.
      I should have asked him additional clarification questions of how did he knew that? Did he saw the event himself?
      The same questions that I asked to you now..

      But back then I was afraid, as Islamic tradition doesn't appreciate curious mind.
      Boys who asked too many questions are regarded as among the "bad boys"..
      Boys who just obey are rewarded as "good boys".. (shamina waatona.. we hear we obey)

      But since you saw the event yourselves..
      I believe you are more correct on this matter.... and my Murabbi was wrong..

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        NK
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        New Frenzy,

        Thanks for your answer and you are absolutely correct. I totally agree with you.

        I disagree with the traditional understanding of fire from heaven consumed the offering. In verse 337 we were told that God has accepted her. Similar way Zachariah was prophet and he told everyone that she has been accepted by God. Same way like we were told by Quran through Prophet Muhammad (PBUH).

        Thanks,
        NK.

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          good_logic
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          Peace NK.
          How can you be sure Adam told him? Does it say it somewhere in Qoran?
          Why can t he have been told by GOD(Either in inspiration or through Angel or...i.e the usual chanel that GOD uses to communicate with for all believers.
          I think we can only speculate on this question. There is no clear answer.
          GOD bless you.
          Peace.

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            good_logic
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            Brother jafar.
            I get it , you are looking for an excuse not to study Qoran, I will provide you with one here

            A year has 365 days for you to study. After taking away 52 Sundays, there are only 313 days left.
            There are 50 days in the summer that is way too hot to work so there are only 263 days left.
            We sleep 8 hours a day, in a year, that counts up to 122 days so now we're left with 141 days.
            If we fooled around for only 1 hour a day, 15 days are gone, so we are left with 126 days.
            We spend 2 hours eating each day, 30 days are used in this way in the year, and we are left with 96 days in our year.
            We spend 1 hour a day speaking to friends and family, that takes away 15 days more and we are left with 81 days.
            Posting in this forum at least 35 days in your year, hence you are only left with 46 days.
            Taking off approximately 40 days of holidays, you are only left with 6 days.
            Say you are sick for a minimum of 3 days, you're left with 3 days in the year to study!
            Let's say you only go out for 2 days... You're left with 1 day. But that 1 day is your birthday.

            Enjoy yourself brother.
            GOD bless you.
            Peace.

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              Jafar
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              Brother jafar.
              I get it , you are looking for an excuse not to study Qoran, I will provide you with one here

              You are rambling out of the topic again....

              Like I said, since you have stated that you have personally met with Adam's sons and witnessed the event with your own two eyes..
              I believe your testimony that there isn't any smoke or fire when Adam's sons performed their offering / sacrifice.

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                good_logic
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                May be next time brother jafar.
                For now I will go and get on with my offering and sacrifice. If you see smoke and fire do not panic. It will be me . May be you can come and enjoy the barbecue with me.

                Sorry NK for the off topic. I am trying to sell my "religion" to jafar., but he is too clever to buy it.
                jafar s religion is to warn people against all the "bad" religions"..
                GOD bless.
                Peace.

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                  si_di
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                  If quran is not telling what offering was giving go to the AT Maybe you find some hint or what profession they had.

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                    imrankhawaja
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                    not only the method of offering is there in stories but reason also rotfl

                    another version is here guys
                    good son of adam bring nice fruits,fresh vegetables, etc
                    bad son of adam bring rubbish fruits, rotten vegetables etc

                    thats y God only select QUALITY things specially lamb is fav dish of God for offering

                    hence ,sudden miracalous fire applied on the stuff of bad one and they understood that offering of bad one is rejected by punishment of FIRE so instead of getting angry on God he show anger on Good one. such a stupid person hahaha

                    more stories one of the story my school teacher told me same like jaffar childhood,

                    he said to me at that time of (killing) from one rib of ?eve? a daugter get birth and from one rib son get birth and they both get married but in the case of abel and cain they were twins and when they get adult and they fight for one girl so one killed another. killer was bad person. becoz good person never even self defence.

                    in their case it was a solution though( if they would agree and apply the law in parliment) about THREESOME same like lgbt law is passed thats the only option in that story by a honorable teacher hahahaha

                    more stories are comin in due time untill then enjoy these two versions of stories (reasoning)

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                      imrankhawaja
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                      I believe your testimony that there isn't any smoke or fire when Adam's sons performed their offering / sacrifice.

                      i think it was the smokeless fire the same fire from which a creature called jinny produced by God rotfl

                      remember even the magicians in movie ? NOW you SEE me? used same fire
                      No smoke , No residue when they set fire on currency at bank vault lol

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