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What is the Qur'ans stance on homosexuality?

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    hawk99
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    Peace,

    Can anyone provide ayats from Allah regarding homosexuality,
    and not from prophet lot, but instructions, commandments from
    the creator.

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      Rilum
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      Peace,
      I am not exactly sure.
      Well hawk99, one can maybe take the verses 2755, 781 as ayats regarding homosexuality from Allah.

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        imrankhawaja
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        Peace,

        Can anyone provide ayats from Allah regarding homosexuality,
        and not from prophet lot, but instructions, commandments from
        the creator.

        peace,

        Homosexuality 415-16, 26165-166, 2755, 2928-29,

        source FM

        prophet lot is the only personality who deals with this issue .. so he must be in the show for running the picture..

        but as we discuss earlier many months ago i evolve my understanding .. on people who are catagorised as in between male and female...
        so by defualt the laws of (male vs male) (female vs female) exempt from the catagory above...

        i experienced this because i see this with my own eyes ..there is a normality in the system of God but a perfection in everything only belong to God .so in creation and births there may b some abnormalities in some cases .. its very normal...

        God bless you brother

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          huruf
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          Peace,

          Can anyone provide ayats from Allah regarding homosexuality,
          and not from prophet lot, but instructions, commandments from
          the creator.

          I am afraid that you are ot going to get what you ask for.

          hy should God give specific instructions concerning "homosexuality"?

          Has God any disposition regarding "heterosexuality"?

          We might start with that and see.

          And I think this has been asked before, I have asked it before. Would it have been better if what Lut's people suposedly did to males was done to females?

          I really do not know what Lut's people did to males. What as it?

          Where is it said?

          Salaam

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            hawk99
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            Peace,
            I am not exactly sure.
            Well hawk99, one can maybe take the verses 2755, 781 as ayats regarding homosexuality from Allah.

            Peace Rilum, 2755 and 781 are prophets lot's reaction to his situation
            and his point of view. Can his reaction be used or understood as
            commandments or instructions that we all should adhere to?

            peace,

            Homosexuality 415-16, 26165-166, 2755, 2928-29,

            source FM

            prophet lot is the only personality who deals with this issue .. so he must be in the show for running the picture..

            but as we discuss earlier many months ago i evolve my understanding .. on people who are catagorised as in between male and female...
            so by defualt the laws of (male vs male) (female vs female) exempt from the catagory above...

            i experienced this because i see this with my own eyes ..there is a normality in the system of God but a perfection in everything only belong to God .so in creation and births there may b some abnormalities in some cases .. its very normal...

            God bless you brother

            Yes I agree, if there is some sort of punishment for being gay I have not found it
            yet in Quran, even though I personally find homosexuality abhorrent I must let
            them live their lives as they wish as long as they obey public lewdness
            laws as per Quran.

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              imrankhawaja
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              Yes I agree, if there is some sort of punishment for being gay I have not found it
              yet in Quran,

              peace brother hawk,

              although i dunno about any specific punishment what quran states but also lot of other things we dunno what punishment quran states

              example
              lie.
              dishonesty.
              disgracing parents.
              backbitting.
              troublemaking.
              INVASION

              so if we look more deeply we can see the punishment was to wipe all of them out ..(NATION OF LOT)
              but again if it was the decision of God to wipe all of them then why we still see lot of homosexuality.. ?
              and AGAIN we can see lot of nations get destroyed due to lot of wrong doings as per scriptures, so we can see people are still doing those wrong doings now a days. so there is something what we need to add in our understanding about all this myth.

              maybe someone can see and find out either the punishment of lashes only apply to male/female relation or also this relation.

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                bagyane
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                Yes I agree, if there is some sort of punishment for being gay I have not found it
                yet in Quran, even though I personally find homosexuality abhorrent I must let
                them live their lives as they wish as long as they obey public lewdness
                laws as per Quran.

                The link below might be helpful about the punishment for homosexuality in the quran

                <a href="https//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9607365.msg365820#msg365820">It is faahishatan</a>

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                  Wakas
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                  I think you may be confusing homosexuality with public lewd acts (applicable to anyone), see

                  http//misconceptions-about-islam.com/islam-homosexuality.htm

                  All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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                    alihawa
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                    Of course homosexuality is a gross sin. How can it be normal? Judging from the year this thread started, i can see that it was related to big campaign of LGBT movement.

                    415-16, 26165-166, 2755, 2928-29, 780-81,1178-79, 1570-73, 5136 and 7029-30 give me enough information about Quran?s stance on homosexuality. But for people who keep trying to justify homosexuality (regardless of their motives), just read 7031

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                      huruf
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                      70.30 which is what 70.31 refers speaks of azwaj without mention that gives any hint as to sex, except what may be in people's minds. And the word zawj, plural, azwaj in the Qur'an is too large to really assert without any possibility of doubt that here it refers to a partner of the opposite sex.

                      And this is nothing to do with any personal opinion or feelings.

                      Salaam

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