Is the Holy Quran for the humans only or for the Jinns too?

[good_logic]

Peace jafar.
I do not have any Jinnies friends. Would you ask yours for me please brother?

Don t the Jinnies have messengers of their own anyway? Or perhaps the Creator inspires to each one of them.

GOD bless you.
Peace.

[bagyane]

Peace all,

Is the Holy Quran for the humans only or for the Jinns too?

Thanks,
NK

It is for both as the book of guidance <a href="http//tanzil.net/#2185">2/185</a>, He (Allah) promised it (the guidance) to the ancestors, (Adam & Eblis) and their progenies <a href="http//tanzil.net/#238">2/38</a>-<a href="http//tanzil.net/#239">39</a>

[imrankhawaja]

another theory is,

JINNs dnt need to read or download becoz they are creation of ENERGY( naar) lmao.
so the libraries are already installed in them from which they can open any version of quran and and its interpretation. or any other holy BOOKs.

so they have built in GPS, builtin Travelling techniques faster than F-18 may b lol.
they dnt need any physical material for their support.

they themselves are apps, cars, computer at a same time thats why they are always ahead from human and author of quran said they see you from where u cant see them ,

thats why they were jealous and confused why a poweless lowly human being is sujood by most highly creature jinny. all energy what we are using energy beings are much more advance in it ( As per Records of jinn experts) and some information from religious texts.

[bagyane]

...thats why they were jealous and confused...

Some of them listen to qur'an and follow it, thereafter warned their fellows <a href="http//tanzil.net/#4629">4629</a>-<a href="http//tanzil.net/#4632">32</a>

So there are <a href="https//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9610445.0">Oloo alalbabi</a> among them

[imrankhawaja]

whats if these JINNs are not invisible beings.?

they are just people who live away from population thats y u can also use word JINN for those people

the next verse showing either JINNS have life spans consist of more than 3000 yrs?
or they have history of people more than 3000 yrs ?

in next verse 46 30 it appears they were present in moses times as well as time of Quran?
why didnt they accepted at moses time ? if they knew it was truth ?

things only make sense if u interpret it by shabbir ahmed way atleast for this occassion.

4629 (O Messenger) We turned toward you a company of the nomads so that they may listen to the Qur?an. And as soon as they were in its presence, they said, ?Listen in silence!? And when it was over, they hurried to their people as warners.

[bagyane]

...in next verse 46 30 it appears they were present in moses times as well as time of Quran?
why didnt they accepted at moses time ? if they knew it was truth ? ...

Or they were not present at the time of Moses but have his book at their disposal just like we have Qur'an now

... in next verse 46 30 ... why didnt they accepted at moses time ? if they knew it was truth ? ...

The verse did not point to that

[good_logic]

I agree bagyane.
the verse just says
4630
They said, "O our people, we have heard a book that was revealed after Moses, and confirms the previous scriptures. It guides to the truth; to the right path.

And Qoran says that it confirms the previous scripture. It certainly does not mean they were alive at the time of Moses.
GOD bless you.
Peace.

[imrankhawaja]

sorry brothers i think we misunderstood
lets start from THOSE jinn who were listening.

were they normal human beings also called as jinns ? as per shabbirs ahmed interpretation i think ghulam ahmed pervaiz had a similar view.
question is how we know these jinns r human or invisible ones ? its also a highly possibility both kinds exist at same time.

or a tribe somewhere in past whose people named as JINNS metaphorical to original jinn invisible beings ?

[hawk99]

sorry brothers i think we misunderstood
lets start from THOSE jinn who were listening.

were they normal human beings also called as jinns ? as per shabbirs ahmed interpretation i think ghulam ahmed pervaiz had a similar view.
question is how we know these jinns r human or invisible ones ? its also a highly possibility both kinds exist at same time.

or a tribe somewhere in past whose people named as JINNS metaphorical to original jinn invisible beings ?

No one is invisible. No one is physically made of smokeless fire. NO one is made of gas.
At least I have never seen such a person.

And there were men from mankind who sought refuge in men from the jinn,
so they increased them in burden.

Peace all,

Is the Holy Quran for the humans only or for the Jinns too?

Thanks,
NK

And when We directed to you a few of the jinn,
listening to the Qur'an. And when they attended it, they said, "Listen quietly."
And when it was concluded, they went back to their people as warners.

We said, "Go down therefrom, all of you. When guidance comes to you
from Me, those who follow My guidance will have no fear, nor will they grieve.

peace

[Novice]

No one is invisible. No one is physically made of smokeless fire. NO one is made of gas.
At least I have never seen such a person.

And there were men from mankind who sought refuge in men from the jinn,
so they increased them in burden.

And when We directed to you a few of the jinn,
listening to the Qur'an. And when they attended it, they said, "Listen quietly."
And when it was concluded, they went back to their people as warners.

We said, "Go down therefrom, all of you. When guidance comes to you
from Me, those who follow My guidance will have no fear, nor will they grieve.

peace

Thanks hawk99. Allow me to correct your typo to remove confusion.The verse is 726
Very appropriate references to reflect upon.

God bless you.

[hawk99]

Thanks hawk99. Allow me to correct your typo to remove confusion.The verse is 726
Very appropriate references to reflect upon.

God bless you.

Thanks Novice, I appreciate it.

[NK]

I agree with Imrankhwaja. Thanks for sharing your thought. In general, people think that and both are same things. The creature which was made from fire was and not . In the whole Quran you can not find a single verse where God said he created from fire. Therefore, has broader meaning, it can be imaginary deities which Polytheist worshiped (6100), it also includes angels (3715, People not living in the cities (721), our evil impulses(1850) etc.

[si_di]

@NK

The creature which was made from fire was and not .
if i am not wrong i used to think that the first word is the Pluralform of the second word .

[huruf]

in 15.26 we are told that the jaann were created before the bashar from fire
and in the next ayas we are told that iblees refused to postrate and gave as a reason that he would not postrate before a bashar created from mud

in 38.76 we are told that iblees is created from fire and refused to postrate

and in 18.50 we are told that iblees was rom the jinn

Salaam

[imrankhawaja]

if i am not wrong i used to think that the first word is the Pluralform of the second word .

plural form is more appropriate to use for aljaan as it covers all possible kinds/forms/types of THOSE from ALjaan.

i know its kinda hard topic when we are talking about THINGS/ BEINGS what we cannot see from naked eye.

GOD bless u all brothers and sisters.

[imrankhawaja]

No one is invisible. No one is physically made of smokeless fire. NO one is made of gas.
At least I have never seen such a person.

hope u doing good brother HAWK
lol TRUE i never seen a person like this either.

RED things and beings as per holy scriptures exist what naked eye of human cant See.
as per science also things exist what naked eye cant see.
may b i misunderstood what u r trying to say in ur post.

[imrankhawaja]

I agree with Imrankhwaja. Thanks for sharing your thought. In general, people think that and both are same things. The creature which was made from fire was and not . In the whole Quran you can not find a single verse where God said he created from fire. Therefore, has broader meaning, it can be imaginary deities which Polytheist worshiped (6100), it also includes angels (3715, People not living in the cities (721), our evil impulses(1850) etc.

hope u doing good brother NK.
i will look more into it in due time and these type of topics, thinking get evolve from better understanding. thanks to you too for sharing your view.

[hawk99]

hope u doing good brother HAWK
lol TRUE i never seen a person like this either.

RED things and beings as per holy scriptures exist what naked eye of human cant See.
as per science also things exist what naked eye cant see.
may b i misunderstood what u r trying to say in ur post.

Peace imrankhawaja, NK

I apologize for not being clear, but let's analyze this ayat.

And there were men from mankind who sought refuge in men from the jinn,
so they increased them in burden.

Are the Jinn men or are they something else? Help!

peace

[NK]

@si di,

it self is a plural noun. Same as and

Salam

[NK]

@ huruf,

3876 is not the statement of God. He quoted Ibless statement. Same way in 128 is not the statement of God. Like i said in my previous comment, in the whole Quran God never said he created Al-Jinn from fire.

Salam