Allah is ENERGY

good_logic

Peace Mahdi.
What is the Arabic word for GOD -English- Or Dieu- French-...?

I see ,there is no god except Allah. I agree here.

I just wonder why the word worship comes to it. We are translating the one word Allah in English, surely it cannot be a sentence?

Also, just because people worship GOD , it does not mean there is no ilah for worship. GOD of course is not needy of anything, but some people insist on worshipping GOD anyway.. I also agree GOD does not need us to worship or do anything for Him(No gender).
My understanding of energy, light,electricity, gas,neutrons,...are all creations like atoms, things, humans,...
And this is where you and I disagree. But that is fine.
I get the rest of what you are trying to convey about respect for the environment and all creations.
GOD bless you.
Peace

Mahdi_Ibrahim

What is the Arabic word for GOD -English- Or Dieu- French-...?

I see ,there is no god except Allah. I agree here.

I just wonder why the word worship comes to it. We are translating the one word Allah in English, surely it cannot be a sentence?

"Signs" can be translated ...

Also, just because people worship GOD , it does not mean there is no ilah for worship. GOD of course is not needy of anything, but some people insist on worshipping GOD anyway.. I also agree GOD does not need us to worship or do anything for Him(No gender).
My understanding of energy, light,electricity, gas,neutrons,...are all creations like atoms, things, humans,...
And this is where you and I disagree.

Energy is "the capacity for doing work"

Energy is the ability to produce change in an object or its environment.

Energy is the ability of a physical system to cause change.

Thus, it is Allah.

I get the rest of what you are trying to convey about respect for the environment and all creations.
GOD bless you.
Peace

GOD bless you.
Peace

imrankhawaja

brother GL hes same like you rotfl yay his needle is stuck here

ENERGY = capacity of doing work.

i remeber once somebody was saying 1 gram of coacine got 3 hour capacity of work so logically there is some kind of energy in coacaine what make people workable.lol

whatever you will say he will come with this ultimate equation invented by him.

GL u have a match now JK lol and surprisingly my post number 3636 what a pair post ! even in quran 36 36 talking about pairs if im not mistaken. hmm

Mahdi_Ibrahim

ENERGY = capacity of doing work.

i remeber once somebody was saying 1 gram of coacine got 3 hour capacity of work so logically there is some kind of energy in coacaine what make people workable.lol

whatever you will say he will come with this ultimate equation invented by him.

No... I did not invent the definition of energy but the scientists..

So what is your answer to our issue?

who comes first?

A. Allah

B. Energy

A or B?

Trolling is not an argument...

good_logic

Peace Imran.
Coincidence or what ? like number 19 for me!
Brother Mahdi has advanced to "no GOD for worship",but still stuck with Qoran?

I am still trying to make out the human logic, we think we are clever and our logic is good ,but most of the time it is.-Hesitant and confused-

I hope you stay with Qoran at least brother, I have seen numerous members give up on it and on Islam to GOD and have abandoned"all gogmatic views" like they put it.
Their clever logic has won the day for them. They abandoned GOD and anything to do with GOD .
Our rebellious logic always tries to argue against GOD s logic by instinct

GOD demands "Samina Wa Atahna"-hear and obey- . Our logic demands rebellion and arrogance.

But we are who we are at the end of the day and I accept that . Everyone should be their own character.

Tomorrow at GOD s ,we are either on the same side or on opposite sides.
If we are on the same side ,I hope we are with GOD and not on the other side .

If we are on opposite sides, there is no need for "I told you so" from the one saved as we are our own reckoners here in this life.
Time will tell brother and loyalties still can change or consolidate.
GOD bless you.
Peace.

huruf

No matter what, we are creatures at His mercy, and it is on His mercy that we depend.

Salaam

imrankhawaja

No... I did not invent the definition of energy but the scientists..

NO what i am saying is you invent definition of God with the help of ENERGY provided to you by computer. lol

no scientist in my life i see claiming God is energy.

scientists also invent definitions of all other energies what u are skipping to define as demi-gods or parts/sections of God?.
look things are not clear from ur side..

So what is your answer to our issue?
A or B?

my brother i ll happily start sharing my views on subject when we will meet the full criteria of your equation..

you are not telling me anything about TIME factor? ok lets skip this part if u are willing to ..

are us asking what comes first (Allah) A ? or (energy) B ?

for this experiment you need to provide me parts of both subjects. lets see what we GET.

experiment on B is possible ? (yes)
experiment on A is possible ? ( you give me answer for this).

then we ll proceed talk. and tell me some details of your question like TIME factor plz what is the place of time in it ?

God bless you

imrankhawaja

Peace Imran.
Coincidence or what ? like number 19 for me!

NOT a coincidence this time TBH lol rotfl yay
i just noticed the 19 in my last post the value of second and then i see the value of second in your post give me multiple of 19 its 57 ... wao .. group

I hope you stay with Qoran at least brother, I have seen numerous members give up on it and on Islam to GOD and have abandoned"all gogmatic views" like they put it.

i will start a new thread when i finish doing my on going research and study on the books comes before 1000 ad and the best ten books got Quran and Gospels in it.. as well as veda , book by budda etc..

we ll see according to the merits of their time/space what they got and where they were wrong as per our recent discoveries..

some inspiring books are there for everyone for every taste like some books from early greek and egyptian scientists and philosphers..

as well as quran we should also study those books too its better to explore knowledge and understand what a wonderful God spread there for us..

Jafar

I am still trying to make out the human logic, we think we are clever and our logic is good ,but most of the time it is.-Hesitant and confused-

Majority of human think that they're right, pious and others are false and evil.

It need a great swallowing of pride to see what's wrong, false and evil within ourselves.
Yet that is actually what will bring the most benefits to ourselves..
And only very handful of human able to do so..

"Arrogance and ignorance goes hand in hand"
-- Holier than Thou by James H

I hope you stay with Qoran at least brother, I have seen numerous members give up on it and on Islam to GOD and have abandoned"all gogmatic views" like they put it.
Their clever logic has won the day for them. They abandoned GOD and anything to do with GOD .
Our rebellious logic always tries to argue against GOD s logic by instinct

GOD demands "Samina Wa Atahna"-hear and obey- . Our logic demands rebellion and arrogance.

Tomorrow at GOD s ,we are either on the same side or on opposite sides.
If we are on the same side ,I hope we are with GOD and not on the other side .

LOL..
You are proposing as if a "book titled Quran" = God.

God = God
God is all powerful, all controlling and everything depends on It.
Including Energy, Matter and Time.. let alone a puny being called human.

God is not 'arguing', fighting against anything within this universe, including human.
Nothing can rebel or even act against God, nothing can abandon God, it's an impossibility and illogicality.
Everything act in accordance to God's plan.

As such God is NOT on "one side" that It's fighting "the enemy / rival of that side".
God is on ALL side ALL the time.

I'll be blunt to say that the view that God is a human, God can be angry / disappointed, God is fighting / warring against something (such as The Devil), God has wives, sons and daughters (since God is a human), God is jealous of another Gods thus he fought wars with believers of other Gods, is the traditional view of polytheistic tradition. Where they see God as a deity acting as if It's a human king...

Mahdi_Ibrahim

NO what i am saying is you invent definition of God with the help of ENERGY provided to you by computer. lol

no scientist in my life i see claiming God is energy.

scientists also invent definitions of all other energies what u are skipping to define as demi-gods or parts/sections of God?.
look things are not clear from ur side..

Read the syahadat, "NO GOD"

You have GOD, I don't...

No God
Only Energy / Light / Allah

Scientists made the same claim, everything is ENERGY.

my brother i ll happily start sharing my views on subject when we will meet the full criteria of your equation..

you are not telling me anything about TIME factor? ok lets skip this part if u are willing to ..

are us asking what comes first (Allah) A ? or (energy) B ?

for this experiment you need to provide me parts of both subjects. lets see what we GET.

experiment on B is possible ? (yes)
experiment on A is possible ? ( you give me answer for this).

then we ll proceed talk. and tell me some details of your question like TIME factor plz what is the place of time in it ?

God bless you

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Re Allah is ENERGY
« Reply #37 on January 09, 2019, 035247 AM »
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Quote from imrankhawaja on January 08, 2019, 101331 AM
where is C (Time).

and before making equation complete it with Time factor.
otherwise it will be the tea without TEA pack, having milk sugar and water but not TEA.

you said WHO come first ? the time u used (First) bring a matter of time

do we know the age of matter?
do we know the age of energy?
do we know the age of TIME?

let say 13.7 billion years ago what was before that ?
what was time before time?

you have not a slight idea about energy as well as God and gravity lol.

have a break have a KiTKat

How does that change the FACT THAT

(the ISSUE)
Quote from Mahdi Ibrahim on January 07, 2019, 012019 PM
Energy is "the capacity for doing work"
Quote from Mahdi Ibrahim on January 08, 2019, 042511 AM
and He only "says" BE is ENERGY
Even "HE" (existence) without "BE" is ENERGY
Quote from Mahdi Ibrahim on January 07, 2019, 023920 PM
1123 ENERGY has not given birthcannot be destroyed nor is He borncan be created

1124 Nor is there anyonematter equal to ENERGY. (ie. energy can be transformed)

Your argument doesn't make sense at all, logic failed or #strawman.

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When will you counter this argument?

Energy is "the capacity for doing work"

Energy is the ability to produce change in an object or its environment.

Energy is the ability of a physical system to cause change.

Thus, it is Allah.

stop trolling and making arguments with your #strawman

while the actual argument remains untouched....

ISSUE who comes first?

A. Allah

B. Energy

A or B?

good_logic

Peace Jafar.
I have been saying this same thing like you here, Quote

I'll be blunt to say that the view that God is a human, God can be angry / disappointed, God is fighting / warring against something (such as The Devil), God has wives, sons and daughters (since God is a human), God is jealous of another Gods thus he fought wars with believers of other Gods, is the traditional view of polytheistic tradition. Where they see God as a deity acting as if It's a human king...

I was proposing that GOD authored Qoran or Qoran is the word/instruction from GOD according to my understanding and findings . But never what you assumed brother jafar.
Actually I was also proposing freedom of choice, to choose your god.
You know Qoran gives you your choice ,mine and everybody else s, Go on brother study it and see for yourself if that is true?
GOD bless you.
Peace,

Mahdi_Ibrahim

my brother i ll happily start sharing my views on subject when we will meet the full criteria of your equation..

you are not telling me anything about TIME factor?

E=mc2 itself says nothing about TIME

The Issue

Who comes first?

A. Allah?

B. Energy?

A or B?

When...

Energy is "the capacity for doing work"

Energy is the ability to produce change in an object or its environment.

Energy is the ability of a physical system to cause change.

Thus, it is Allah.

OR

Is Allah with disabilities?

If yes, what is there other than ENERGY ("the ability&quot?

imrankhawaja

mr Intelligent do u even understand what i am asking ?

ok you tell me when in (timespace) ENERGY created the TIME?

energy first or TIME ?

you are doing strawman again and again example.

you said scientists made claim everyTHING is energy ?

so you interpret there claim to everyTHING is GOD?

3rd point
you said actual claim of u never touched by anyone yet?

infact its not only touched but it also get raped lmao only if u can feel it rotfl

Mahdi_Ibrahim

mr Intelligent do u even understand what i am asking ?

Of course and...

How does "TIME" change the FACT

THAT ENERGY IS THE ABILITY TO PRODUCE CHANGE?

There is no Allah / no change / no movement of anything at all before TIME?

see? #strawman or clear signs for logic failed

and...

ok you tell me when in (timespace) ENERGY created the TIME?

energy first or TIME ?

you are doing strawman again and again example.

you said scientists made claim everyTHING is energy ?

so you interpret there claim to everyTHING is GOD?

3rd point
you said actual claim of u never touched by anyone yet?

infact its not only touched but it also get raped lmao only if u can feel it rotfl

Do you realize that you're empty space (atoms) and cannot scientifically prove your own existence? being delusional (dreams / consciousness)?

ELSE, please prove atoms are not empty space. Bring scientific facts to prove your existence...

and..

And are you worshipping God with disabilities?

E=mc2 itself says nothing about TIME
...
Is Allah with disabilities?

If yes, what is there other than ENERGY ("the ability&quot?

What kind of God is that?

God who CANNOT CREATES ? (ALLAH IS NOT "the capacity for doing work" / ALLAH IS NOT the ability to produce change in an object or its environment. / ALLAH IS NOT the ability of a physical system to cause change.)

You logic is funny.

Who comes first?

A. Allah?

B. Energy?

A or B?

imrankhawaja

Of course and...

How does "TIME" change the FACT

There is no Allah / no change / no movement of anything at all before TIME?

TIME is not changing the fact,
infact TIME is fact what u cant deny isnt it? and u failed to understand time same like other scientists who struggled in it.

BOLD what was time before time?

Do you realize that you're empty space (atoms) and cannot scientifically prove your own existence? being delusional (dreams / consciousness)?

Bring scientific facts to prove your existence...

i havnt find any facts bout my reality lol.

What kind of God is that?

i dunno, difficult question.

You logic is funny.

coz i m a funny person.. God made me funny.lol

Who comes first?

A. Allah?

B. Energy?

A or B?

untill i will not solve C= time i cant guess who comes FIRST? (first) comes with respect to the scale of time ..

Mahdi_Ibrahim

You agree with this? confused

And are you worshipping God with disabilities?

What kind of God is that?

God who CANNOT CREATES ? (ALLAH IS NOT "the capacity for doing work" / ALLAH IS NOT the ability to produce change in an object or its environment. / ALLAH IS NOT the ability of a physical system to cause change.)

imrankhawaja

You agree with this? confused

no i disagree.
i dunt worship God.
i dunt worship my parents either.
i dun worship my mobile too even got energy in it to provide me details.

God = who cannot create (your God)
God = who also a creator in one of his attributes ( God of quran)
3
4
5 so on to millions

first select the type of god u r looking for ? and on what God we r debating ?if we are debating on energy then u have poor knowledge of science. u r the kafir of science i mean the one who makes fun of science lmao .

Mahdi_Ibrahim

no i disagree.

IF you disagree with ...

• God who CANNOT CREATES (ALLAH IS NOT "the capacity for doing work" / ALLAH IS NOT the ability to produce change in an object or its environment. / ALLAH IS NOT the ability of a physical system to cause change.)

THEN do you agree with

• God who CAN CREATES (ALLAH IS "the capacity for doing work" / ALLAH IS the ability to produce change in an object or its environment. / ALLAH IS the ability of a physical system to cause change = ENERGY)

ie. my Allah...

Yes? No?

Mahdi_Ibrahim

The Issue

Who comes first?

A. Allah?

B. Energy?

A or B?

imrankhawaja

no i disagree with your God = energy ?
and thanks for letting me know that ur God is not the one mentioned in quran.

your thinking is very helpful now we can atleast punish/control matter as well as energy.

otherwise in most of the versions creator is unpunishable/uncontrollable/unstopable etc.

and i wana burn the energy now i wana take revenge from creator who put me in this life without my choice. and set rules for me if i dnt follow the rules he will burn me in helllfire.

all manmade gods are out of my understanding and now i m tired of being fake to myself about the power thats making me scared why at the first place that power exist?
how i know i will be satisfied with all the mishapps happened in my life?
where is he when i really need him ?

whenever i think about unseen enemy as well as the creator of that enemy both appeared enemy to me due to their own fight they put innocent monkeys at risk becoz they were chilling in world fingering the **s of other animals hence punishment was already set for those pieces of shit monkeys and creator tricked those foolish monkeys to accept the most foolish thing and now we are sucked and in the end himself is saying why u stupid beings accepted my offer when other intelligent beings like mountains rejected it?

first he says i m responsible now hez blaming us such a liar?.
we dnt really want to b mere toys hell with that test?
the biggest wish is to punish the one who created me?
there must b a way to punish him for all those murders,rape, thefts, emotion killing, feelings rape done by him?

Energy is much more easy target for me to punish becoz rest of the Gods also easy to punish like idols of hindus and statues of jesus and cross. some worship fire its also easy to kill that fire with water?

most difficult God is the God of quran to locate becoz he is invisible and hes with us each and every time through his malaika , he will come on day of judgement when eight malakia. will be holding his power/throne. at that day he will decide the punishments and big decisions.

he created a brand new HELL for the beleivers of opposite gods.
that HELL is never seen by any jinny or man?
there are beautiful blackwitches waiting there for black basterds.
which of the favours of ur lord u will deny?
there is a special energised fire there that will boil in the stomach of hell dwellers.
which of the favours of ur lord u will deny?
in there it will be a factory where skins get reproduce once fully burnt?
which of the favours of ur lord u will deny?

so brother i accepted ur God= energy so kindly tell all those answes who i ask from the followers of different gods. they failed answering me its your turn now.

PROVE ur GoD is the version of truth ?