Allah is ENERGY
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NO what i am saying is you invent definition of God with the help of ENERGY provided to you by computer. lol
no scientist in my life i see claiming God is energy.
scientists also invent definitions of all other energies what u are skipping to define as demi-gods or parts/sections of God?.
look things are not clear from ur side..Read the syahadat, "NO GOD"
You have GOD, I don't...
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No God
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Only Energy / Light / Allah
Scientists made the same claim, everything is ENERGY.
my brother i ll happily start sharing my views on subject when we will meet the full criteria of your equation..
you are not telling me anything about TIME factor? ok lets skip this part if u are willing to ..
are us asking what comes first (Allah) A ? or (energy) B ?
for this experiment you need to provide me parts of both subjects. lets see what we GET.
experiment on B is possible ? (yes)
experiment on A is possible ? ( you give me answer for this).then we ll proceed talk. and tell me some details of your question like TIME factor plz what is the place of time in it ?
God bless you
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Re Allah is ENERGY
« Reply #37 on January 09, 2019, 035247 AM »
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Quote from imrankhawaja on January 08, 2019, 101331 AM
where is C (Time).and before making equation complete it with Time factor.
otherwise it will be the tea without TEA pack, having milk sugar and water but not TEA.you said WHO come first ? the time u used (First) bring a matter of time
do we know the age of matter?
do we know the age of energy?
do we know the age of TIME?let say 13.7 billion years ago what was before that ?
what was time before time?you have not a slight idea about energy as well as God and gravity lol.
have a break have a KiTKat
How does that change the FACT THAT
(the ISSUE)
Quote from Mahdi Ibrahim on January 07, 2019, 012019 PM
Energy is "the capacity for doing work"
Quote from Mahdi Ibrahim on January 08, 2019, 042511 AM
and He only "says" BE is ENERGY
Even "HE" (existence) without "BE" is ENERGY
Quote from Mahdi Ibrahim on January 07, 2019, 023920 PM
1123 ENERGY has not given birthcannot be destroyed nor is He borncan be created1124 Nor is there anyonematter equal to ENERGY. (ie. energy can be transformed)
Your argument doesn't make sense at all, logic failed or #strawman.
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When will you counter this argument?
Energy is "the capacity for doing work"
Energy is the ability to produce change in an object or its environment.
Energy is the ability of a physical system to cause change.
Thus, it is Allah.
stop trolling and making arguments with your #strawman
while the actual argument remains untouched....
ISSUE who comes first?
A. Allah
B. Energy
A or B?
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Peace Jafar.
I have been saying this same thing like you here, QuoteI'll be blunt to say that the view that God is a human, God can be angry / disappointed, God is fighting / warring against something (such as The Devil), God has wives, sons and daughters (since God is a human), God is jealous of another Gods thus he fought wars with believers of other Gods, is the traditional view of polytheistic tradition. Where they see God as a deity acting as if It's a human king...
I was proposing that GOD authored Qoran or Qoran is the word/instruction from GOD according to my understanding and findings . But never what you assumed brother jafar.
Actually I was also proposing freedom of choice, to choose your god.
You know Qoran gives you your choice ,mine and everybody else s, Go on brother study it and see for yourself if that is true?
GOD bless you.
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my brother i ll happily start sharing my views on subject when we will meet the full criteria of your equation..
you are not telling me anything about TIME factor?
E=mc2 itself says nothing about TIME
The Issue
Who comes first?
A. Allah?
B. Energy?
A or B?
When...
Energy is "the capacity for doing work"
Energy is the ability to produce change in an object or its environment.
Energy is the ability of a physical system to cause change.
Thus, it is Allah.
OR
Is Allah with disabilities?
If yes, what is there other than ENERGY ("the ability"?
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mr Intelligent do u even understand what i am asking ?
ok you tell me when in (timespace) ENERGY created the TIME?
energy first or TIME ?
you are doing strawman again and again example.
you said scientists made claim everyTHING is energy ?
so you interpret there claim to everyTHING is GOD?
3rd point
you said actual claim of u never touched by anyone yet?infact its not only touched but it also get raped lmao only if u can feel it rotfl
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mr Intelligent do u even understand what i am asking ?
Of course and...
How does "TIME" change the FACT
THAT ENERGY IS THE ABILITY TO PRODUCE CHANGE?
There is no Allah / no change / no movement of anything at all before TIME?
see? #strawman or clear signs for logic failed
and...
ok you tell me when in (timespace) ENERGY created the TIME?
energy first or TIME ?
you are doing strawman again and again example.
you said scientists made claim everyTHING is energy ?
so you interpret there claim to everyTHING is GOD?
3rd point
you said actual claim of u never touched by anyone yet?infact its not only touched but it also get raped lmao only if u can feel it rotfl
Do you realize that you're empty space (atoms) and cannot scientifically prove your own existence? being delusional (dreams / consciousness)?
ELSE, please prove atoms are not empty space. Bring scientific facts to prove your existence...
and..
And are you worshipping God with disabilities?
E=mc2 itself says nothing about TIME
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Is Allah with disabilities?If yes, what is there other than ENERGY ("the ability"?
What kind of God is that?
God who CANNOT CREATES ? (ALLAH IS NOT "the capacity for doing work" / ALLAH IS NOT the ability to produce change in an object or its environment. / ALLAH IS NOT the ability of a physical system to cause change.)
You logic is funny.
Who comes first?
A. Allah?
B. Energy?
A or B?
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Of course and...
How does "TIME" change the FACT
There is no Allah / no change / no movement of anything at all before TIME?
TIME is not changing the fact,
infact TIME is fact what u cant deny isnt it? and u failed to understand time same like other scientists who struggled in it.BOLD what was time before time?
Do you realize that you're empty space (atoms) and cannot scientifically prove your own existence? being delusional (dreams / consciousness)?
Bring scientific facts to prove your existence...
i havnt find any facts bout my reality lol.
What kind of God is that?
i dunno, difficult question.
You logic is funny.
coz i m a funny person.. God made me funny.lol
Who comes first?
A. Allah?
B. Energy?
A or B?
untill i will not solve C= time i cant guess who comes FIRST? (first) comes with respect to the scale of time ..
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You agree with this? confused
And are you worshipping God with disabilities?
What kind of God is that?
God who CANNOT CREATES ? (ALLAH IS NOT "the capacity for doing work" / ALLAH IS NOT the ability to produce change in an object or its environment. / ALLAH IS NOT the ability of a physical system to cause change.)
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You agree with this? confused
no i disagree.
i dunt worship God.
i dunt worship my parents either.
i dun worship my mobile too even got energy in it to provide me details.God = who cannot create (your God)
God = who also a creator in one of his attributes ( God of quran)
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5 so on to millionsfirst select the type of god u r looking for ? and on what God we r debating ?if we are debating on energy then u have poor knowledge of science. u r the kafir of science i mean the one who makes fun of science lmao .
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no i disagree.
IF you disagree with ...
• God who CANNOT CREATES (ALLAH IS NOT "the capacity for doing work" / ALLAH IS NOT the ability to produce change in an object or its environment. / ALLAH IS NOT the ability of a physical system to cause change.)
THEN do you agree with
• God who CAN CREATES (ALLAH IS "the capacity for doing work" / ALLAH IS the ability to produce change in an object or its environment. / ALLAH IS the ability of a physical system to cause change = ENERGY)
ie. my Allah...
Yes? No?
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The Issue
Who comes first?
A. Allah?
B. Energy?
A or B?
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no i disagree with your God = energy ?
and thanks for letting me know that ur God is not the one mentioned in quran.your thinking is very helpful now we can atleast punish/control matter as well as energy.
otherwise in most of the versions creator is unpunishable/uncontrollable/unstopable etc.
and i wana burn the energy now i wana take revenge from creator who put me in this life without my choice. and set rules for me if i dnt follow the rules he will burn me in helllfire.
all manmade gods are out of my understanding and now i m tired of being fake to myself about the power thats making me scared why at the first place that power exist?
how i know i will be satisfied with all the mishapps happened in my life?
where is he when i really need him ?whenever i think about unseen enemy as well as the creator of that enemy both appeared enemy to me due to their own fight they put innocent monkeys at risk becoz they were chilling in world fingering the **s of other animals hence punishment was already set for those pieces of shit monkeys and creator tricked those foolish monkeys to accept the most foolish thing and now we are sucked and in the end himself is saying why u stupid beings accepted my offer when other intelligent beings like mountains rejected it?
first he says i m responsible now hez blaming us such a liar?.
we dnt really want to b mere toys hell with that test?
the biggest wish is to punish the one who created me?
there must b a way to punish him for all those murders,rape, thefts, emotion killing, feelings rape done by him?Energy is much more easy target for me to punish becoz rest of the Gods also easy to punish like idols of hindus and statues of jesus and cross. some worship fire its also easy to kill that fire with water?
most difficult God is the God of quran to locate becoz he is invisible and hes with us each and every time through his malaika , he will come on day of judgement when eight malakia. will be holding his power/throne. at that day he will decide the punishments and big decisions.
he created a brand new HELL for the beleivers of opposite gods.
that HELL is never seen by any jinny or man?
there are beautiful blackwitches waiting there for black basterds.
which of the favours of ur lord u will deny?
there is a special energised fire there that will boil in the stomach of hell dwellers.
which of the favours of ur lord u will deny?
in there it will be a factory where skins get reproduce once fully burnt?
which of the favours of ur lord u will deny?so brother i accepted ur God= energy so kindly tell all those answes who i ask from the followers of different gods. they failed answering me its your turn now.
PROVE ur GoD is the version of truth ?
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Whatever Allah is to all these people, they are all in the same boat. So how can they help?
They may be trying to find their own answers from their own version of their "god"?The simple logic says only the one who has the knowledge and can do everything should be sought for help .
However if one does not believe in such entity ,then they are stuck. Like the saying goes "it is tough luck for them".They will just have to figure out a way for them to lessen their frustration at being here among all these injustices and suffering of innocent living things.
Why are they here as living beings anyway? Did they ask for it? Given the choice would they have accepted to be here? Would they have preferred not to exist at all?...and so many questions that can be asked but still they are here what can they do except to work out why and how they happen to be here!!!!Brother Imran I tried to ask all these people with "gods" similar questions. I now realise they have their own questions and are humans like me. Even if they give me their answers,it may not be my answers. So I stopped asking them.
Really when you think about it,only when you try hard to find your own answers will you be satisfied or more frustrated, but at least you are recognising all humans have started like you. None has any advantage of knowing more at the beguining and whatever advantage anyone gains on others,each will have to work hard at using the faculties they have to investigate any knowledge gained.
At the end of the day,it is like each are on their own journey,not depending on the other.If one cannot find answers ,well they are here and they have to deal with it at best they can. Or give up and live an animal life or,,,,
Yes brother "who is my god?" is a first question one needs to ask .
Mine is not energy by the way.
Sorry brother , your post reminded me of some of my journey.
GOD bless you.
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First Question
ISSUE who comes first?
A. Allah
B. Energy
A or B?
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untill i will not solve C= time i cant guess who comes FIRST? (first) comes with respect to the scale of time ..E=mc2 itself says nothing about TIME
How does "TIME" change the FACT
THAT ENERGY IS THE ABILITY TO PRODUCE CHANGE?
There is no Allah / no change / no movement of anything at all before TIME?
see? #strawman or clear signs for logic failed
Second Question
Do you agree with...
God who CANNOT CREATES (ALLAH IS NOT "the capacity for doing work" / ALLAH IS NOT the ability to produce change in an object or its environment. / ALLAH IS NOT the ability of a physical system to cause change.)
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no i disagree.Third Question
Do you agree with...
God who CAN CREATES (ALLAH IS "the capacity for doing work" / ALLAH IS the ability to produce change in an object or its environment. / ALLAH IS the ability of a physical system to cause change = ENERGY)
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no i disagree
PROVE ur GoD is the version of truth ?
Everything is ENERGY.
What else?
There is NO REALITY (NO GOD/MATTER) but ENERGY (ALLAH)
This Energy make certain The Law of Cause & Effect
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Natural Cause, produces Natural Effects.
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Unnatural Cause, produces Unnatural Effects.
This Energy (Allah) is the LordLaw of the Universe
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and...
You are a TRUE BELIEVER...
• Denial, in ordinary English usage, is asserting that a statement or allegation is not true. The same word, and also abnegation (German Verneinung), is used for a psychological defense mechanism postulated by psychoanalyst Sigmund Freud, in which a person is faced with a fact that is too uncomfortable to accept and rejects it instead, insisting that it is not true despite what may be overwhelming evidence. An individual that exhibits such behavior is described as a denialist or true believer. Denial also could mean denying the happening of an event or the reliability of information, which can lead to a feeling of aloofness and to the ignoring of possibly beneficial information; Psychoanalysis; https//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial
Any argument/discussion certainly impossible...
I'll stop here, it is time wasting.
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Peace brother Mahdi Ibrahim
Searching for the truth is what we all endeavor to find.
Ayat 2435 is not literal but metaphorical.
Allah is the Light of the heavens and the earth. The parable (mathalu)
of His light is like a niche within which is a lamp, the lamp is
within glass, the glass as if it were a pearly star lit from a blessed olive tree,
neither of the east nor of the west, whose oil would almost glow even if untouched
by fire. Light upon light. Allah guides to His light whom He wills. And Allah presents
examples (l-amthla),for the people, and Allah is Knowing of all things.peace
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Ayat 2435 is not literal but metaphorical.
Allah is the Light of the heavens and the earth. The parable (mathalu)
of His light is like a niche within which is a lamp, the lamp is
within glass, the glass as if it were a pearly star lit from a blessed olive tree,
neither of the east nor of the west, whose oil would almost glow even if untouched
by fire. Light upon light. Allah guides to His light whom He wills. And Allah presents
examples (l-amthla),for the people, and Allah is Knowing of all things.peace
@ brother hawk,
in this chap that one is my fav one.
2440 Or like total darkness in the midst of a deep ocean, with waves upon waves and a thick cloud above - darkness upon darkness. When he holds out his hand, he can barely see it. For, whomever God deprives of light, will have no light.
in this single verse we can have scientific findings, a perfect metaphor, a perfect lesson.
and opposite of light = darknesswithout DARKNESS there is no light so he created all of it light and dark both are playing their roles appointed for them.
LEAD me to LIGHT one of my old teacher use to say that light here is not sunlight i m sure lol.
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Ayat 2435 is not literal but metaphorical.
of course, and many scientists understand this metaphor..
since they are not deluded into worshipping some invisible gods in the sky.. truly deluded.
• delusion
/dɪˈluːʒ(ə)n/
noun
an idiosyncratic belief or impression maintained despite being contradicted by reality or rational argument, typically as a symptom of mental disorder.
Which of you the insane? (686)
?The real hopeless victims of mental illness are to be found among those who appear to be most normal. "Many of them are normal because they are so well adjusted to our mode of existence, because their human voice has been silenced so early in their lives, that they do not even struggle or suffer or develop symptoms as the neurotic does." They are normal not in what may be called the absolute sense of the word; they are normal only in relation to a profoundly abnormal society. Their perfect adjustment to that abnormal society is a measure of their mental sickness. These millions of abnormally normal people, living without fuss in a society to which, if they were fully human beings, they ought not to be adjusted.?
― Aldous Huxley, Brave New World Revisited
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@ brother hawk,
in this chap that one is my fav one.
2440 Or like total darkness in the midst of a deep ocean, with waves upon waves and a thick cloud above - darkness upon darkness. When he holds out his hand, he can barely see it. For, whomever God deprives of light, will have no light.
in this single verse we can have scientific findings, a perfect metaphor, a perfect lesson.
and opposite of light = darknesswithout DARKNESS there is no light so he created all of it light and dark both are playing their roles appointed for them.
LEAD me to LIGHT one of my old teacher use to say that light here is not sunlight i m sure lol.
@ imrankhawaja the Quran is full of beautiful metaphors, similes, idioms and similitudes.
An ayat that is literal is 2431.
@ Mahdi Ibrahim, I'm sorry but I think you need to take a close look at ayat 37 handshake
peace
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light upon light = allah upon allah ?
light = energy
LHS = RHS
hence new equation
light = energy = God.
btw u still having missing factor of time in light ( the max speed of God ) = 1860000 miles p/s isnt it.
u r giving here einstien equation on energy and matter but u forget to give his theory of ?general relativity? ? is there anything u see TIME there ?
i never see any scientist deluded in worshipping light or energy ? lmao