Allah is ENERGY
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You agree with this? confused
no i disagree.
i dunt worship God.
i dunt worship my parents either.
i dun worship my mobile too even got energy in it to provide me details.God = who cannot create (your God)
God = who also a creator in one of his attributes ( God of quran)
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5 so on to millionsfirst select the type of god u r looking for ? and on what God we r debating ?if we are debating on energy then u have poor knowledge of science. u r the kafir of science i mean the one who makes fun of science lmao .
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no i disagree.
IF you disagree with ...
• God who CANNOT CREATES (ALLAH IS NOT "the capacity for doing work" / ALLAH IS NOT the ability to produce change in an object or its environment. / ALLAH IS NOT the ability of a physical system to cause change.)
THEN do you agree with
• God who CAN CREATES (ALLAH IS "the capacity for doing work" / ALLAH IS the ability to produce change in an object or its environment. / ALLAH IS the ability of a physical system to cause change = ENERGY)
ie. my Allah...
Yes? No?
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The Issue
Who comes first?
A. Allah?
B. Energy?
A or B?
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no i disagree with your God = energy ?
and thanks for letting me know that ur God is not the one mentioned in quran.your thinking is very helpful now we can atleast punish/control matter as well as energy.
otherwise in most of the versions creator is unpunishable/uncontrollable/unstopable etc.
and i wana burn the energy now i wana take revenge from creator who put me in this life without my choice. and set rules for me if i dnt follow the rules he will burn me in helllfire.
all manmade gods are out of my understanding and now i m tired of being fake to myself about the power thats making me scared why at the first place that power exist?
how i know i will be satisfied with all the mishapps happened in my life?
where is he when i really need him ?whenever i think about unseen enemy as well as the creator of that enemy both appeared enemy to me due to their own fight they put innocent monkeys at risk becoz they were chilling in world fingering the **s of other animals hence punishment was already set for those pieces of shit monkeys and creator tricked those foolish monkeys to accept the most foolish thing and now we are sucked and in the end himself is saying why u stupid beings accepted my offer when other intelligent beings like mountains rejected it?
first he says i m responsible now hez blaming us such a liar?.
we dnt really want to b mere toys hell with that test?
the biggest wish is to punish the one who created me?
there must b a way to punish him for all those murders,rape, thefts, emotion killing, feelings rape done by him?Energy is much more easy target for me to punish becoz rest of the Gods also easy to punish like idols of hindus and statues of jesus and cross. some worship fire its also easy to kill that fire with water?
most difficult God is the God of quran to locate becoz he is invisible and hes with us each and every time through his malaika , he will come on day of judgement when eight malakia. will be holding his power/throne. at that day he will decide the punishments and big decisions.
he created a brand new HELL for the beleivers of opposite gods.
that HELL is never seen by any jinny or man?
there are beautiful blackwitches waiting there for black basterds.
which of the favours of ur lord u will deny?
there is a special energised fire there that will boil in the stomach of hell dwellers.
which of the favours of ur lord u will deny?
in there it will be a factory where skins get reproduce once fully burnt?
which of the favours of ur lord u will deny?so brother i accepted ur God= energy so kindly tell all those answes who i ask from the followers of different gods. they failed answering me its your turn now.
PROVE ur GoD is the version of truth ?
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Whatever Allah is to all these people, they are all in the same boat. So how can they help?
They may be trying to find their own answers from their own version of their "god"?The simple logic says only the one who has the knowledge and can do everything should be sought for help .
However if one does not believe in such entity ,then they are stuck. Like the saying goes "it is tough luck for them".They will just have to figure out a way for them to lessen their frustration at being here among all these injustices and suffering of innocent living things.
Why are they here as living beings anyway? Did they ask for it? Given the choice would they have accepted to be here? Would they have preferred not to exist at all?...and so many questions that can be asked but still they are here what can they do except to work out why and how they happen to be here!!!!Brother Imran I tried to ask all these people with "gods" similar questions. I now realise they have their own questions and are humans like me. Even if they give me their answers,it may not be my answers. So I stopped asking them.
Really when you think about it,only when you try hard to find your own answers will you be satisfied or more frustrated, but at least you are recognising all humans have started like you. None has any advantage of knowing more at the beguining and whatever advantage anyone gains on others,each will have to work hard at using the faculties they have to investigate any knowledge gained.
At the end of the day,it is like each are on their own journey,not depending on the other.If one cannot find answers ,well they are here and they have to deal with it at best they can. Or give up and live an animal life or,,,,
Yes brother "who is my god?" is a first question one needs to ask .
Mine is not energy by the way.
Sorry brother , your post reminded me of some of my journey.
GOD bless you.
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First Question
ISSUE who comes first?
A. Allah
B. Energy
A or B?
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untill i will not solve C= time i cant guess who comes FIRST? (first) comes with respect to the scale of time ..E=mc2 itself says nothing about TIME
How does "TIME" change the FACT
THAT ENERGY IS THE ABILITY TO PRODUCE CHANGE?
There is no Allah / no change / no movement of anything at all before TIME?
see? #strawman or clear signs for logic failed
Second Question
Do you agree with...
God who CANNOT CREATES (ALLAH IS NOT "the capacity for doing work" / ALLAH IS NOT the ability to produce change in an object or its environment. / ALLAH IS NOT the ability of a physical system to cause change.)
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no i disagree.Third Question
Do you agree with...
God who CAN CREATES (ALLAH IS "the capacity for doing work" / ALLAH IS the ability to produce change in an object or its environment. / ALLAH IS the ability of a physical system to cause change = ENERGY)
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no i disagree
PROVE ur GoD is the version of truth ?
Everything is ENERGY.
What else?
There is NO REALITY (NO GOD/MATTER) but ENERGY (ALLAH)
This Energy make certain The Law of Cause & Effect
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Natural Cause, produces Natural Effects.
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Unnatural Cause, produces Unnatural Effects.
This Energy (Allah) is the LordLaw of the Universe
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and...
You are a TRUE BELIEVER...
• Denial, in ordinary English usage, is asserting that a statement or allegation is not true. The same word, and also abnegation (German Verneinung), is used for a psychological defense mechanism postulated by psychoanalyst Sigmund Freud, in which a person is faced with a fact that is too uncomfortable to accept and rejects it instead, insisting that it is not true despite what may be overwhelming evidence. An individual that exhibits such behavior is described as a denialist or true believer. Denial also could mean denying the happening of an event or the reliability of information, which can lead to a feeling of aloofness and to the ignoring of possibly beneficial information; Psychoanalysis; https//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial
Any argument/discussion certainly impossible...
I'll stop here, it is time wasting.
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Peace brother Mahdi Ibrahim
Searching for the truth is what we all endeavor to find.
Ayat 2435 is not literal but metaphorical.
Allah is the Light of the heavens and the earth. The parable (mathalu)
of His light is like a niche within which is a lamp, the lamp is
within glass, the glass as if it were a pearly star lit from a blessed olive tree,
neither of the east nor of the west, whose oil would almost glow even if untouched
by fire. Light upon light. Allah guides to His light whom He wills. And Allah presents
examples (l-amthla),for the people, and Allah is Knowing of all things.peace
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Ayat 2435 is not literal but metaphorical.
Allah is the Light of the heavens and the earth. The parable (mathalu)
of His light is like a niche within which is a lamp, the lamp is
within glass, the glass as if it were a pearly star lit from a blessed olive tree,
neither of the east nor of the west, whose oil would almost glow even if untouched
by fire. Light upon light. Allah guides to His light whom He wills. And Allah presents
examples (l-amthla),for the people, and Allah is Knowing of all things.peace
@ brother hawk,
in this chap that one is my fav one.
2440 Or like total darkness in the midst of a deep ocean, with waves upon waves and a thick cloud above - darkness upon darkness. When he holds out his hand, he can barely see it. For, whomever God deprives of light, will have no light.
in this single verse we can have scientific findings, a perfect metaphor, a perfect lesson.
and opposite of light = darknesswithout DARKNESS there is no light so he created all of it light and dark both are playing their roles appointed for them.
LEAD me to LIGHT one of my old teacher use to say that light here is not sunlight i m sure lol.
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Ayat 2435 is not literal but metaphorical.
of course, and many scientists understand this metaphor..
since they are not deluded into worshipping some invisible gods in the sky.. truly deluded.
• delusion
/dɪˈluːʒ(ə)n/
noun
an idiosyncratic belief or impression maintained despite being contradicted by reality or rational argument, typically as a symptom of mental disorder.
Which of you the insane? (686)
?The real hopeless victims of mental illness are to be found among those who appear to be most normal. "Many of them are normal because they are so well adjusted to our mode of existence, because their human voice has been silenced so early in their lives, that they do not even struggle or suffer or develop symptoms as the neurotic does." They are normal not in what may be called the absolute sense of the word; they are normal only in relation to a profoundly abnormal society. Their perfect adjustment to that abnormal society is a measure of their mental sickness. These millions of abnormally normal people, living without fuss in a society to which, if they were fully human beings, they ought not to be adjusted.?
― Aldous Huxley, Brave New World Revisited
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@ brother hawk,
in this chap that one is my fav one.
2440 Or like total darkness in the midst of a deep ocean, with waves upon waves and a thick cloud above - darkness upon darkness. When he holds out his hand, he can barely see it. For, whomever God deprives of light, will have no light.
in this single verse we can have scientific findings, a perfect metaphor, a perfect lesson.
and opposite of light = darknesswithout DARKNESS there is no light so he created all of it light and dark both are playing their roles appointed for them.
LEAD me to LIGHT one of my old teacher use to say that light here is not sunlight i m sure lol.
@ imrankhawaja the Quran is full of beautiful metaphors, similes, idioms and similitudes.
An ayat that is literal is 2431.
@ Mahdi Ibrahim, I'm sorry but I think you need to take a close look at ayat 37 handshake
peace
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light upon light = allah upon allah ?
light = energy
LHS = RHS
hence new equation
light = energy = God.
btw u still having missing factor of time in light ( the max speed of God ) = 1860000 miles p/s isnt it.
u r giving here einstien equation on energy and matter but u forget to give his theory of ?general relativity? ? is there anything u see TIME there ?
i never see any scientist deluded in worshipping light or energy ? lmao
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@ Mahdi Ibrahim, I'm sorry but I think you need to take a close look at ayat 37 handshake
I think you need to do that... handshake
Muhkamat Statement can be proven with the LordLaw of Cause & Effect.
Mutasyaabihat Statement cannot be proven with the LordLaw of Cause & Effect.
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• Allah exists since mathematics (sunnatullah, LordLaw of Cause and Effect) is consistent, and
• The Devil exists since we cannot prove it (fallacious arguments/statements/conclusions).
Why don't they research the (interpretation and translation of the) Qur'an?
Don't they realize that if it(s interpretation and translation) was from someone other than Allah (ie. Human Shaytan / The Devil / 6112), they would find many discrepancies in it (fallacious arguments/statements/conclusions). (Tafseer 482)
Definition of Human Shaytan / The Devil
Human shaytans and Jinn Shaytans, who inspire (religism, schism) each other with delusions (ie unnatural / "an idiosyncratic belief or impression maintained despite being contradicted by reality or rational argument, typically as a symptom of mental disorder" by means of specious words (ie fallacious arguments / LOGIC FAILED!) — if your LordLaw (of Nature, LordLaw of Cause & Effect) had willed, they would not have done it, so abandon them and all they fabricate (political jurisprudence). (Tafseer 6112)
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no one saying it's not, so what is the issue?
• Allah (Energy) is THE LIGHT of EVERYTHING ( = of the heavens and the earth). (2435)
• Everything is THE LIGHT (ENERGY). Nikola Tesla
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"Light" is the metaphor for "Energy"
"Light upon light" is the metaphor for "energy upon energy" (Transformation of Energy)
It is the SAME LIGHT, ONE LIGHT
ONE ENERGY
ONE ALLAH
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so what is your LAMP?
my LAMP is...
HE MADE ALL GODS SAME GOD. (Quran 385)
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AND I will prove my Allah
here, please prove your own existence...
let's start with this kirlian photograph of an apple.
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ISSUE Does this apple exist; or
There is NO APPLE (GOD),
ONLY LIGHT (ENERGY / ALLAH)?A. The apple exist
B. No, there is NO APPLE (GOD). Everything is THE LIGHT
A or B?
https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=meoGgUkLx9M
Nothing exists except atoms and empty space, everything else IS OPINION. ~ Democritus
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No. There is NO GOD and Allah mean One who is not illah
One who is not a deity/god for adoration or worship.
So you mean to say Allah = Energy and there is NO God and Ilah is (deity/god)... Fine
Allah or GOD is Energy ... La ilah illa Allah means ... There is no deity but Energy.... So no connection according to you with deity or god with the word Allah but simply Energy..Then give everyone a detailed explanation of the verse 1143 which say ILAH Deity/god of Men... even explain the 1141 as well...If allah is energy what is ilah 1143 indicates?
explain the below as well dear brother... i consider you a knowledgeable one honestly... but mere knowledgeable one and the believer has difference... let's see ...
2013 If you consider the Fire to be as Energy in the verse then why Moses wanted to see the Energy (allah) while he has already seen the Fire (Energy)? It?s not a normal fire according to you it was the Fire(energy) which controls everything? What was that moses wanted to see after seeing the Energy already? Then what actually prevented energy to show up?
Next A or B...
A has no beginning
B has beginning...
So B has come first and A never came and never endwho knows your view may be right rest of us may be wrong...so clarify the above...
God bless us with guidance...
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Then give everyone a detailed explanation of the verse 1143 which say ILAH
Allah (A)
A = B
B = C
C = D
D = A1141 and 1142 defines the word ILAH/GOD in verse 1143
• 1141 Say, "I seek refuge in (the) Lord (of) mankind,
• 1142 (The) King (of) mankind,
• 1143 (The) God (of) mankind
(The) Lord (of) mankind = (The) God (of) mankind
Therefore
Allah (A) = God (B)
God (B) = Lord (C)Accordingly, what is the definition for Lord (C)?
• 12 All praises and thanks (be) to Allah, the Lord of the universe
• 13 The Most Gracious, the Most Merciful.
• 14 (The) King (of the) Day (of the) Judgment.
All validity / lawfulness praises and thanks (be) to Allah
the Lord of the universe
All validity / lawfulness be to Lord (C) of the Universe
• = "All validity / lawfulness be to" The Sunnatullah (Way of Allah in Nature)
• = "All validity / lawfulness be to" LordLaw of Nature
• = "All validity / lawfulness be to" LordLaw of Cause & Effect
• = "All validity / lawfulness be to" EcoLogic
• = "All validity / lawfulness be to" Mathematical Pattern
• = "All validity / lawfulness be to" ENERGY
• = "All validity / lawfulness be to" EcoLogical JUSTICE / JURISPRUDENCE
Therefore, the LordLaw (C) of the Universe
= Sunnatullah / LordLaw of Nature / Energy (D)
You are what you do, and Allah is what He do (Sunnatullah)
Accordingly for the logical deduction of..
A = B
B = C
C = D
D = A• Allah (A) = God (B)
• God (B) = Lord (C)
• Lord (C) = Sunnatullah / LordLaw of Nature / Energy (D)
• Sunnatullah / LordLaw of Nature / Energy (D) = Allah (A)
Energy (D) = Allah (A)
The word God in verse 1143 refer to "ENERGY" (Energy make certain the Sunnatullah, the LordLaw of Nature, EcoLogic)
Is it fallacious (unnatural) gods other than Allah/Sunnatullah/LordLaw of Nature - (that) you desire? (3786)
You will never encounter an alternative for Sunnatullah/LordLaw of Nature. You will never find an alteration in the Sunnatullah/LordLaw of Nature! (3543)
Muslim
= Make peace with Nature (Sunnatullah LordLaw, EcoLogical Jurisprudence, Ecological Justice, EcoLogic, DEEN / CAUSE & EFFECT)Kafir
= Make enemy with Nature (Political LordLaw, Unnatural Jurisprudence, Forced Justice, Fallacies, RELIGION / DOGMA)1091 Say "O Kafirun (Unnatural),"
1092 "I do not serve what you serve (Unnatural),"
1093 "Nor do you serve what I serve (Natural),"
1094 "Nor will I serve what you serve (Unnatural),"
1095 "Nor will you serve what I serve (Natural),"1096 "To you is your system (Political Jurisprudence / Unnature / Forced Justice), and to me is mine (Ecological Jurisprudence / Nature / Natural Justice)."
Why don't they research the (interpretations and translations of the) Quran? Don't they realize that if it(s interpretations and translations) was from someone other than Allah/Sunnatullah/LordLaw of Nature, they would find many discrepancies/unnatural/fallacious in it(s interpretations and translations). (482)
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2013 If you consider the Fire to be as Energy in the verse then why Moses wanted to see the Energy (allah) while he has already seen the Fire (Energy)?
It is the process of "REASONING"
Musa said "Allah is the LordLaw of the East and the West and EVERYTHING IN BETWEEN ( = ENERGY). You would understand Allah if you USE REASON. (262
Next A or B...
A has no beginning
B has beginning...
So B has come first and A never came and never endThe capacity for doing work (Energy) cannot be created
The capacity for doing work (Energy) cannot be destroyedThe capacity for doing work (Energy) can be transformed (ie. Light upon Light = Transformation of Energy.
When I have formed him and breathed/transformed My Ruh/Energy into him (Transformation of Energy), fall down in prostration in front of him! Then the angels prostrated all together, every one of them (1529-30)
It is NOT SHIRK.
UNLESS, against the Sunnatullah / Nature / EcoLogic ALONE