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What does the root 3bd (ع ب د) means as per Quran?

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    hawk99
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    Peace hawk.
    May be this salat is also something else , but I fail to see it at anything else but "physical prayer
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    The hypocrites think that they are deceiving God, but He is the One who leads them on. When they get up for the Salat, they get up lazily. That is because they only show off in front of the people, and rarely do they think of God.

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    They waver in between, neither belonging to this group, nor that group. Whomever God sends astray, you will never find a way to guide him.

    I think it is time to conclude in this thread ,yet anothrer Salat thread that got nowhere with "Aquimi Salat" as conclusively something different from physical prayer?
    Well brother you and me have been misled? Or
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    If it were not for God's grace towards you, and His mercy, some of them would have misled you. They only mislead themselves, and they can never harm you in the least. God has sent down to you the scripture and wisdom, and He has taught you what you never knew. Indeed, God's blessings upon you have been great.

    The way I see it, there is nothing good about following our own warped logic except if we advocate giving to people, helping people, making peace among people, advocating good deeds and good morals. Anyone who does this in response to GOD s teaching, GOD will reward him.
    As for Salat one has the choice to do it or not do it.
    Brother, I have seen and felt its benefits. I shall continue god willing making this daily contact with my creator.
    GOD bless you.
    Peace.

    @ Good Logic,

    I don't know if they are hypocrites today who don't perform the salat, maybe
    some are. Yes, some people are lazy and half hearted in devotion.

    I agree, some folks who are confronted with the traditional physical salat
    are mislead by the rigid adherence and the questionable details like the
    mentioning of Muhammad, the number of rakats, the salaaming of angels
    and how many salats to perform in a day.

    peace

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      jkhan
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      @ Good Logic,

      I don't know if they are hypocrites today who don't perform the salat, maybe
      some are. Yes, some people are lazy and half hearted in devotion.

      I agree, some folks who are confronted with the traditional physical salat
      are mislead by the rigid adherence and the questionable details like the
      mentioning of Muhammad, the number of rakats, the salaaming of angels
      and how many salats to perform in a day.

      peace

      @ Hawk
      Let us work hard to make people read the quran by using this forum and also in any way in which we are involved with... it means lets deliver the message... let them decide... let them be believers or deniers or hypocrites .... no issue... it's their destiny...

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        hawk99
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        @ Hawk
        Let us work hard to make people read the quran by using this forum and also in any way in which we are involved with... it means lets deliver the message... let them decide... let them be believers or deniers or hypocrites .... no issue... it's their destiny...

        I agree, we believers are not enemies of one another, let's not judge too harshly
        because we are all on our own journey.

        I have a question that has been with me a long time, and it is

        Of all the sects, opinions, debates regarding times of salat, how many salats,
        number of rakats, etc., "why is there an agreement that there is no salat between fajr and zuhr"?

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          jkhan
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          I agree, we believers are not enemies of one another, let's not judge too harshly
          because we are all on our own journey.

          I have a question that has been with me a long time, and it is

          Of all the sects, opinions, debates regarding times of salat, how many salats,
          number of rakats, etc., "why is there an agreement that there is no salat between fajr and zuhr"?

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          There is no agreement among sects.. They do all sorts of things... I don't about the place u live but in my place and I'm subcontinent there are people who pray after Fajr calling nafl prayer and once sun risen and also before so called zuhr (I. E Wusta) they pray nafl.... And differs people to people how many rakat....no agreement... There could be more unknown...

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            hawk99
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            There is no agreement among sects.. They do all sorts of things... I don't about the place u live but in my place and I'm subcontinent there are people who pray after Fajr calling nafl prayer and once sun risen and also before so called zuhr (I. E Wusta) they pray nafl.... And differs people to people how many rakat....no agreement... There could be more unknown...

            Peace jkhan, I think you misunderstand me, I am not referring to nafl and
            sunna prayers before and after the obligatory prayers, but an independent
            salat between the two.

            peace

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              jkhan
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              Peace jkhan, I think you misunderstand me, I am not referring to nafl and
              sunna prayers before and after the obligatory prayers, but an independent
              salat between the two.

              peace

              Yeah sure got u wrong... Coz I thought any prayers... But anyhow people pray for God.. What is that obligatory and the other one... That's not strange... Leave that... But there who pray obligatory on different way....
              For example they consider it obligatory without it is sin according to them...

              1. two eid prayers of it falls on Friday then most pray eid salah that is between Fajr and zuhr and they don't pray zuhr which is called jumma.... They skip.. So they automatically pray a so called obligatory during that period...
              2. janasa prayer... Not praying janasa by atleast small group for a dead man they consider a son and it obligatory on their book.. So when one janasa is done duirng that period that's obligatory even they delay zuhr for that purpose...
              3. and here comes eclipses.... And eclipses prayer.. Whenever there is even a minor eclipses whether they see or not just when informed in media they pray the other morning... It is must for them and at least one group shoud pray otherwise all in sin.. So intention is obligatory...
                There could be more I can't recollect...
                Is that what u were asking Hawk...
                Peace
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                hawk99
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                Yeah sure got u wrong... Coz I thought any prayers... But anyhow people pray for God.. What is that obligatory and the other one... That's not strange... Leave that... But there who pray obligatory on different way....

                shukraan jazilaan good brother I am looking for why no salat between fajr
                and zuhr. My instincts tells me it has something to do with the sun. hmm

                I am not aware of the eclipse prayer, anyway I won't be making it.

                1. two eid prayers of it falls on Friday then most pray eid salah that is between Fajr and
                  zuhr and they don't pray zuhr which is called jumma.... They skip.. So they automatically
                  pray a so called obligatory during that period...

                Yeah I remember it well, participated many times. hail

                1. janasa prayer... Not praying janasa by at least small group for a dead man they consider a son and it obligatory on their book.. So when one janasa is done duirng that period that's obligatory even they delay zuhr for that purpose...

                Yep, we sure did D

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                  jkhan
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                  shukraan jazilaan good brother I am looking for why no salat between fajr
                  and zuhr. My instincts tells me it has something to do with the sun. hmm

                  Instinct is the key for anything... keep it up... if you have time explain to us what is the connection with sun and fajr to zuhr no contradiction among any..... as we know sun is the guide for salat timing any way...
                  God guide you....

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                    hawk99
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                    Instinct is the key for anything... keep it up... if you have time explain to us what is the connection with sun and fajr to zuhr no contradiction among any..... as we know sun is the guide for salat timing any way...
                    God guide you....

                    Okay here goes, pr The sun was the principal idol before and after Islam.
                    Many cultures turned to it for blessings in the form of sustenance and
                    peace of mind with regards to plant growth. That is why we pray before
                    the sun appears and after it begins to decline.

                    And of His signs are the night and day and the sun and moon. Do not
                    prostrate to the sun or to the moon, but prostate to Allah , who created them,
                    if it should be Him that you worship.

                    my two cents

                    peace

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                      Okay here goes, pr The sun was the principal idol before and after Islam.
                      Many cultures turned to it for blessings in the form of sustenance and
                      peace of mind with regards to plant growth. That is why we pray before
                      the sun appears and after it begins to decline.

                      And of His signs are the night and day and the sun and moon. Do not
                      prostrate to the sun or to the moon, but prostate to Allah , who created them,
                      if it should be Him that you worship.

                      But people still do prostrations when sun and moon are visible on the sky during the day and night. Do you mean they are taken as idols only at sunrise?

                      Salaam

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                        hawk99
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                        But people still do prostrations when sun and moon are visible on the sky during the day and night. Do you mean they are taken as idols only at sunrise?

                        Salaam

                        Peace Novice

                        I was wondering why there is no salat between fajr and zuhr,
                        not including sunna and nafl as brother jkhan highlighted.
                        If you have knowledge or a theory please share.

                        For instance, Catholics The have
                        The Good Friday Morning Prayer is at 800 A.M and
                        the Easter Sunrise prayer is after sunrise at 645 am
                        April 1, 2019, while fajr begins at 0529 am and sunrise is at 0644 am.

                        peace

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                          I was wondering why there is no salat between fajr and zuhr,
                          not including sunna and nafl as brother jkhan highlighted.
                          If you have knowledge or a theory please share.

                          Salaam hawk99

                          Going by traditional schedule there is no prayer between zuhar and Asr or Asr and Maghrab or Mughrab and Isha or Isha and Fajr.

                          So what is the point? What I am missing?

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                            hawk99
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                            Peace Novice

                            What you are missing is that you can pray anytime up to the next
                            prayer with the ones you mentioned. For instance, after the call to
                            prayer for zuhr you can pray zuhr close to asr, but you cannot pray
                            fajr close to zuhr i.e., no prayer between the two, the question is why?

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                              Peace Novice

                              ) What you are missing is that you can pray anytime up to the next
                              prayer with the ones you mentioned. For instance, after the call to
                              prayer for zuhr you can pray zuhr close to asr, but you cannot pray
                              fajr close to zuhr i.e., no prayer between the two, the question is why?

                              Ok brother I got it now. So question should be "why cannot you pray fajar close to zuhar?"

                              May I know what is the source of this restriction? Does Quran give this command or is it from the learned scholars of Islam?

                              Salaam.

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                                hawk99
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                                Actually I was asking you and other members for their take on it!

                                I gave a short synopsis in a previous post

                                Okay here goes, pr The sun was the principal idol before and after Islam.
                                Many cultures turned to it for blessings in the form of sustenance and
                                peace of mind with regards to plant growth. That is why we pray before
                                the sun appears and after it begins to decline.

                                And of His signs are the night and day and the sun and moon. Do not
                                prostrate to the sun or to the moon, but prostate to Allah , who created them,
                                if it should be Him that you worship.

                                my two cents

                                peace

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                                  Actually I was asking you and other members for their take on it!

                                  Salaam hawk99

                                  My take is simply from Quran. I did not find any verse commanding us not to pray at certain times. Please help me find it in Quran.

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