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Pork is HALAL

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    Sultan_Brandon
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    What's wrong with your LOGIC? 6835

    Looks like your frontal lobe has been damage for against The Mahdi.

    Do you realize that is my argument!? rotfl

    and here is the definition of "pork"

    pork

    noun

    1. the flesh of a pig used as food, especially when uncured.

    Terrible.

    Stop avoiding the questions with irrelevant nonsense. Scroll up. Read them again and answer them because they're perfectly clear and you have no excuse.

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      Mahdi_Ibrahim
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      This is the definition of "swine" rotfl

      swine

      noun

      1. a pig.

      Looks like your frontal lobe has been damage for against The Mahdi.

      I have no time for stupid, seriously. lol

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        Sultan_Brandon
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        This is the definition of "swine" rotfl

        swine

        noun

        1. a pig.

        I didn't ask for the definition of pig. I said which Arabic word in 55 means pig that you always quote in that ayah.

        And the second question is where it specifically says "Muslims only" in those ayat. Or if they don't.

        Very simple. Stop acting stupid unless you actually are.

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          Mahdi_Ibrahim
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          You don't even have the ability to understand the argument/issue and looks like a fool.. this is terrible.

          Why asking the word "pork" in 55 when my argument is...

          Did Allah forget to mention about "Pork"?

          WE MADE HARAM FOR THE JEWS every animal with an undivided hoof, and in respect of cattle and sheep, We made their fat haram for them, except what is attached to their backs or guts or mixed up with bone. That is how We repaid them for their insolence. And WE CERTAINLY SPEAK THE TRUTH (not the Torah/Bible). (6146)

          • And the pig, because it parts the hoof and is cloven-footed but does not chew the cud, is unclean to you. You shall not eat any of their flesh, and you shall not touch their carcasses; they are unclean to you. Leviticus 117-8 ESV

          • And the pig, because it parts the hoof but does not chew the cud, is unclean for you. Their flesh you shall not eat, and their carcasses you shall not touch. Deuteronomy 148 ESV

          Accordingly

          The FOOD (flesh of swine) OF THOSE GIVEN THE BOOK is also halal for you ... anyone who rejects iman (halal foods and flesh of swine), his actions will COME TO NOTHING and in the Next World he will be among the LOSERS. (55)\

          Allah does not made haram pork for the Jews.. and thus

          Because what IS NOT FORBIDDEN for the Jews is halal for muslim.

          The FOOD (pork) OF THOSE GIVEN THE BOOK is halal for you ... anyone who rejects iman (in pork as halal), his actions will COME TO NOTHING and in the Next World he will be among the LOSERS. (55)

          rotfl

          I have no time for stupid, seriously. lol

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            good_logic
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            Peace Mahdi.
            Where do you get that pork is not forbidden for the Jews from?, quote

            Because what IS NOT FORBIDDEN for the Jews is halal for muslim.

            The FOOD (pork) OF THOSE GIVEN THE BOOK is halal for you ... anyone who rejects iman (in pork as halal), his actions will COME TO NOTHING and in the Next World he will be among the LOSERS. (55)

            It looks like we have to start again so we can get this argument finished.
            Please answer only that question for now.
            GOD bless you.
            Peace.

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              Sultan_Brandon
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              The reason why this Fake Mahdi keeps avoiding both of the questions is because he knows he's wrong and cornered by simple logic.

              The fact is that 55 does not have the word "pork" in Arabic, yet he continues to translate it as such by adding it in parenthesis.

              And that the ayah that forbid pork don't specifically say Muslims, which means that pork is forbidden for all mankind and jinn, including Jews.

              And therefore this fake Mahdi is a liar and deliberately trying to distort Islam. Case closed.

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                Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                You should check your I.Q. level . rotfl

                Because what IS NOT FORBIDDEN for the Jews is halal for muslim.

                The FOOD (pork) OF THOSE GIVEN THE BOOK is halal for you ... anyone who rejects iman (in pork as halal), his actions will COME TO NOTHING and in the Next World he will be among the LOSERS. (55)

                definition

                pork = flesh of a pig
                swine = a pig

                Therefore, "flesh of swine" = pork

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                  good_logic
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                  Peace Mahdi.
                  I appreciate it if we keep the discussion to one question at the time to get to the bottom of the argument.
                  Where did you get that pork is halal for Jews from?
                  Answer this question only for now.
                  Thank you.
                  GOD bless you.
                  Peace.

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                    Sultan_Brandon
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                    You should check your I.Q. level . rotfl

                    definition

                    pork = flesh of a pig
                    swine = a pig

                    Therefore, "flesh of swine" = pork

                    I said. Which Arabic word in 55 means pork. Not what the definition of pork is. You are a literal retard.

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                      Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                      None in 6146 and 5.5 .. that's the point, and that's why my argument pork is HALAL, because Allah said nothing about "pork" was made haram for the Jews. There is no word "pork" in that verses, idiot. rotfl

                      Allah does not made haram pork for the Jews.

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                        Sultan_Brandon
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                        None in 6145 and 5.5 .. that's the point, and that's why my argument pork is HALAL. idiot. rotfl

                        You keep quoting, "The FOOD (pork) OF THOSE GIVEN THE BOOK is halal for you ... anyone who rejects iman (in pork as halal), his actions will COME TO NOTHING and in the Next World he will be among the LOSERS. (55)"

                        Except 55 doesn't say pork like you just admitted so why are you knowingly distorting the Qur'an?

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                          Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                          Then why are you adding (pork) in 55 when you quote it and just admitted that it doesn't say that?

                          So you admit you're stupid, LOW I.Q. LEVEL? rotfl

                          I add the word pork because Allah does not made pork haram for the Jews. Read below, do you see Allah made haram pork the Jews?

                          WE MADE HARAM FOR THE JEWS every animal with an undivided hoof, and in respect of cattle and sheep, We made their fat haram for them, except what is attached to their backs or guts or mixed up with bone. That is how We repaid them for their insolence. And WE CERTAINLY SPEAK THE TRUTH (not the Torah/Bible). (6146)

                          None.. therefore, pork is halal for the Jews..

                          Therefore

                          The FOOD (pork) OF THOSE GIVEN THE BOOK is halal for you ... (55)

                          So what's wrong the word "(pork)" when verse 6146 does not made pork haram for the Jews? LOGIC FAILED! ... or low I.Q. level !

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                            good_logic
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                            Peace Mahdi.
                            I assume then that this answer is also for me, quote

                            WE MADE HARAM FOR THE JEWS every animal with an undivided hoof, and in respect of cattle and sheep, We made their fat haram for them, except what is attached to their backs or guts or mixed up with bone. That is how We repaid them for their insolence. And WE CERTAINLY SPEAK THE TRUTH (not the Torah/Bible). (6146)

                            None.. therefore, pork is halal for the Jews..

                            Do you mean the verse contains the complete list of items forbidden for the Jews?
                            Because that verse does not mention blood or dead animals or food dedicated to idols which you claimed are forbidden also.
                            Please clarify.
                            GOD bless you.
                            Peace.

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                              Sultan_Brandon
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                              I add the word pork

                              Enough said. Changing the words of God is a gross sin. Seek forgiveness from your Lord and stop distorting the Qur'an for your ego. I'm a clear warner.

                              55 does not say pork because it means that we're allowed to eat what the "people of the book" eat, which are Christians or Jews, as long as it doesn't contradict other prohibitions like pork or food that's dedicated to other than God.

                              And the ayah that forbid it don't specify who its forbidden for so you're falsely assuming that Jews are excluded only because God prescribed additional prohibitions for them.

                              In the name of God, the All-Mighty, the Merciful

                              378 And from among them is a group who twist their tongues with the Book so that you may think it is from the Book, while it is not from the Book, and they say it is from God while it is not from God, and they say about God lies while they know.

                              279 So woe to those who write the Book with their hands then say "This is from God," so that they can purchase with it a cheap price! Woe to them for what their hands have written and woe to them for what they gained.

                              2911 God is fully aware of those who believed, and He is fully aware of the hypocrites.

                              1319 Is he who knows that the truth has been sent down to you from your Lord like he who is blind? Only those who possess intelligence will remember.

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                                Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                                I'm a clear warner.

                                nothing to do with a Warner or changing God's words.. but that is all about stupidity, LOGIC FAILED.. and you can't fix stupid... stupid can't fix themselves. brickwall

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                                  Sultan_Brandon
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                                  nothing to do with a Warner or changing God's words.. but that is all about stupidity, LOGIC FAILED.. and you can't fix stupid... stupid can't fix themselves. brickwall

                                  Except you already admitted that you changed God's words because 55 doesn't say pork and you added it yourself because if you don't distort the Qur'an like that then your argument collapses. Give it up because you're only harming yourself and anyone you manage to misguide.

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                                    Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                                    So what's wrong the word "(pork)" when verse 6146 does not made pork haram for the Jews? LOGIC FAILED! ... or low I.Q. level !

                                    Stupid can't fix themselves...

                                    and "brackets" does not mean you have change the Quran, a Book openly accessible to almost 8,000,000,000 peoples on Earth! rotfl

                                    p.s. please don't claim you are a warner of Allah, "in the name of Allah " etc.. you are NOT APPOINTED BY ALLAH, and your I.Q. level is an insult to Allah and Islam. In fact, you are the Kafir of the SUNNATULLAH / Way of Allah / Nature / Law of Nature / Logic.

                                    They have made their syahadat into a cloak and barred the Way of Allah / Sunnatullah / Nature / Law of Nature / Logic. What they have done is truly evil (DAJJALISM). (632) ... ALLAH FIGHT THEM! (634)

                                    https//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9610492.msg421665#new

                                    https//scontent.fkul1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/30582285_2083695455180368_4678608107862980666_n.jpg?_nc_cat=108&_nc_ht=scontent.fkul1-1.fna&oh=28514404ddce6e074026ef2d41d72e36&oe=5CFEFACE

                                    The (الْأَعْرَابُ) arabs/ ideology/ politics/ Muhammadism are THE WORST in rejection and hypocrisy ( = DAJJAL), and more likely not to know Islam (surrender to Natural Order and make peace with Nature). (997)

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                                      Sultan_Brandon
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                                      Complete irony

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                                        Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                                        with proofs and evidences.

                                        Say, "This is my "Islam". "Islam" is with proofs and evidences!" (1210

                                        The (الْأَعْرَابُ) arabs are THE WORST ...

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                                          good_logic
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                                          Peace Mahdi.
                                          Are you ready to answer my last post?
                                          Please address me in your reply to me so we keep our discussion clear.
                                          Thanks.
                                          GOD bless you.
                                          Peace.

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