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Why did God make most people's destiny Hell

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    Mahdi_Ibrahim
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    if he knew already then why he was ignorant ? as per God

    Yes. Why?

    Everything in NATURE follow the rules, THE CONTRACT

    ie. The LordLaw of Nature (Sunnatullah / Terms and Conditions of Contract)

    Even your own body, organs, cells, molecules, DNA etc hear and obey THE CONTRACT...

    So why? and yet COMPLAINING ABOUT "FREE WILL" (DEFAULT PRODUCT)

    ARROGANT? Retard? rotfl

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      good_logic
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      Peace Mahdi.

      How do we know for sure what our destiny is?

      If we are destined for hell, how do we make the correction to avoid it?
      GOD bless you.
      Peace.

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        Mahdi_Ibrahim
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        How do we know for sure what our destiny is?

        Simple. CONSEQUENCE is NO COINCIDENCE.

        Therefore HELL.

        • Natural Cause / Way of Life = Natural Effect (Paradise)

        • Unnatural Cause / Way of Life = Unnatural Effect (Hell)

        • Mixed Cause / Way of Life = Unnatural Effect (Hell)

        You will never encounter an alternative for sunnatullah. You will never find an alteration in the sunnatullah! (3543)

        • The SUNNATULLAH ALONE MUSLIM *
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          Cerberus
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          thats difference between humana d beast hes lucky and we are unlucky teh day we accept the ?offer?

          brother u used word intelligent ? intelligence? according to creator is our stupidity/ignorance/transgression.

          its appears hez making fun of us when we accepted that ?offer?.

          thats why he said you( humanity) is f****d now lol.

          "Intelligence" as in intelligent to go after pleasure and avoid pain instinctively. And from the eye of Reason, It is indeed stupidity. (or rather primitive)

          You don't read the whole message you just pick what affirms your lack of understanding. It's very problematic.

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            imrankhawaja
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            Dear Sara...
            i am afraid your topic is going nowhere.... and being spoiled in my understanding...
            Two hypocrites are floating in the sky without gravity pulling them down rotfl to overwhelm the supremacy in useless / baseless argument.... &

            the marks of punches from me is still on your face. thats y its natural u want more insults from me just let me know when u satisfied the amount of insult u need in your life.

            aww i have my sympathies with u. u have been beaten badly in everywhere.

            see what i said to ur sister sarah the questions are from the side of nonbelievers of quran like athiest ? so basiaclly this thread full of questions its another matter if u wan give answers but i have more good things for you to learn as i see ur level of understanding is less than 6th grade kid so better learn basic maths first. dnt waste ur time in debates of intelligent people. lol

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              imrankhawaja
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              "Intelligence" as in intelligent to go after pleasure and avoid pain instinctively. And from the eye of Reason, It is indeed stupidity. (or rather primitive)

              You don't read the whole message you just pick what affirms your lack of understanding. It's very problematic.

              brother lem me clear my side first. before u guys start thinking i m asking questions its from the one who dunt believe in creator. not my personal questions.

              lets make it easy you are saying we are gifted with intelligence?
              i m saying this intelligence is ignorance according to author of quran ?

              start from here

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                Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                That's how who should answer it... agree? rotfl

                i wana file a case in universal court against God hahaha

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                  Cerberus
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                  No I said we have REASON and we have a Body. But our body has its own primitive way of thinking, hence why I called it "intelligence", intelligent as far as going after pleasure and avoiding pain. But let's call it instinct, It's the way animals think and live their life. And they do so with harmony because they don't have Reason.

                  Instinct to Reason is primitive, so as not to say stupid. It lacks any sort of principles. It's stuck with the superficial aspect of things. Reason, however, goes above and beyond things.

                  Reason is what makes us "gifted" if you want to say. You can't reject it but you can ignore it. Even if you do so you may still get a sense that your life is meaningless.

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                    kaltun
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                    Slm imrankhawaja,

                    i m saying this intelligence is ignorance according to author of quran

                    who is the author of the Quran according to you ??

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                      imrankhawaja
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                      That's how who should answer it... agree? rotfl

                      its a video clip of movie OH MY GOD rotfl

                      so i just shared that as well in which he file a case against God when insurance compny refuse to give the insurance due to God factor of earthquake?

                      look its difficult to see when i ask but i feel instead of asking i ll give answers now including my own questions but i wanted you guys get train of these questions incase someone asks from you. dun worry take one more day of u want i will
                      load more questions and if u giys failed i will tey give answers.

                      you can see the emoji in the ending statement.

                      very few people in life can understand what i m on about so i m not wondering what u r thinking. chill

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                        kaltun
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                        Slm Mahdi Ibrahim,

                        (Free will is an illusion. People always choose the perceived path of greatest pleasure.)

                        its still free will, cause you may choose , and if you choose easy path ...it still free will

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                          jkhan
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                          the marks of punches from me is still on your face. thats y its natural u want more insults from me just let me know when u satisfied the amount of insult u need in your life.

                          aww i have my sympathies with u. u have been beaten badly in everywhere.

                          see what i said to ur sister sarah the questions are from the side of nonbelievers of quran like athiest ? so basiaclly this thread full of questions its another matter if u wan give answers but i have more good things for you to learn as i see ur level of understanding is less than 6th grade kid so better learn basic maths first. dnt waste ur time in debates of intelligent people. lol

                          Insults of Hypocrites won?t hurt us neither imposters?if it hurts I won?t be here? What hurts me is only when a believer misunderstands me? Believers won?t misunderstand another for long? if each are believers?
                          Why did God make most people's destiny Hell

                          This is the question and concern of Sarah? simple answer is God knows the unseen and future? Thus He knows the destiny of us? that?s why God predicted the destiny of most to be in Hell even before the most of the human being is yet to be born?.
                          If you anyone has doubt in my above response.. take the example of Prophet Isa? God chose Mary to give the birth of Isa? Destiny is well known.. Isa cannot go wrong?. Is must end up as a believer? so knowingly chosen?Destiny is not made by God for most people to deserved the agony? but destiny was in the hands of people who chose to live the life in their own ego? Still God gave a chance? But God knew the soul even before placed on physical body.. that?s so simple?.
                          That?s what a sixth grade would respond you?. Why you elevated me to 6th grade? why not first grade or illiterate? lol?. You guys are destined to be in this way?. ?f******??? such wordings of IK are more proof of his nature / behavior..? have fun in this forum if it is meant for fun and supremacy..? you can have supremacy? for sure? keep it up?. I think such people are intentionally here to divert people from right path?. I think all those who support him may be his own account? he is the one he has multiple accounts?.. Moderators must be knowing this? ?
                          Don?t worry this 6th grade will be there to correct the seniors?
                          laugh

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                            Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                            its a video clip of movie OH MY GOD rotfl

                            Why bother at all?

                            That's the point.. IF YOU REJECT THE MESSENGER (His Books)

                            THEN why bother about discover the TRUTH, about how you enter into the Contract?

                            Step 1. Accept His Messengers / Books
                            Step 2. Find out how you enter into Contract

                            and no worry, we have that videos...

                            you've seen the same image in your dreams (videos).

                            It is a divine inspiration. (534) The heart did not invent what it saw. (5311)

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                              Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                              Slm Mahdi Ibrahim,

                              its still free will, cause you may choose , and if you choose easy path ...it still free will

                              Who says it's not?

                              I'm just saying the "ILLUSION" of free will.

                              You are free to choose, but you are not free from the consequence of your choice.

                              via. 383

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                                imrankhawaja
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                                Insults of Hypocrites won?t hurt us neither imposters?if it hurts I won?t be here?

                                i know it my brother its very TRUE
                                insults are like food for you u cant live without it.

                                and upon seeing u in this condition i cant stop myslef helping u doing what u are after.

                                you should pay thanks to me that i m satisfying you with what u want.
                                and i m doing it may b good deeds for me to help somebody what he want. hahahaha

                                and in the end u become innocent hahaha memebrs know i only reply when u openly show ur stupidity to me othewise i dunt really reply to your posts or anything once i know who u are in actual?

                                its you who always force me to discussion and now i understand nobody else can do the insults the way how u addicted from me ? if thats the reason then keep doing it .

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                                  jkhan
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                                  btw i have same position like u have i am also the one who is questioning in this thread as u can see so i dunt think so i ll help u lol may b ? good logic ? will read and reply to you rotfl

                                  why you tease GL as well tempt ..... Am i not enough for you insult? voodoo elektro

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                                    kaltun
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                                    Slm to all ,

                                    when i read the post of MI , i do get what he means ( i think)

                                    simple answer is God knows the unseen and future? Thus He knows the destiny of us? that?s why God predicted the destiny of most to be in Hell even before the most of the human being is yet to be born?.

                                    like Allah knows everything, knows what we gonna do from the birth till dead... cause this knowledge of his , he is telling us whats gonna happen. and that is the majority is going to hell.

                                    its not like he made people/jin to put them in Hell, but due the choices what HIS creations choose, this has his consequents

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                                      Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                                      but due the choices what HIS creations choose, this has his consequents

                                      Chose to be the kafir of the Sunnatullah (NATURAL CAUSE / LordLaw of Nature), the Unnatural Cause or Way of Life.

                                      Therefore, it is CERTAIN for the UNNATURAL EFFECT (HELL).

                                      -> CONSEQUENCE is NO COINCIDENCE.

                                      What going to happen?

                                      On that Day, We shall ask Hell, Are you now full? Hell will answer, Are there any more? (3824)

                                      Those who have iman and do natural actions, and how few they are! (3824)

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                                        imrankhawaja
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                                        No I said we have REASON and we have a Body. But our body has its own primitive way of thinking, hence why I called it "intelligence", intelligent as far as going after pleasure and avoiding pain. But let's call it instinct, It's the way animals think and live their life. And they do so with harmony because they don't have Reason.

                                        Instinct to Reason is primitive, so as not to say stupid. It lacks any sort of principles. It's stuck with the superficial aspect of things. Reason, however, goes above and beyond things.

                                        Reason is what makes us "gifted" if you want to say. You can't reject it but you can ignore it. Even if you do so you may still get a sense that your life is meaningless.

                                        REASON thats better selection to be honest.
                                        these questions and other questions comes in mind everysingle time and everysingle time we adjust out minds understanding and sorting it out the way we want it.

                                        i m thinking by different ways now i dnt even know how to explain what i want to show but as i see ur posts from last two years u appear as a sound/intelligent mind i can happily share and ask from you.

                                        lets start FROM ideas/thoughts ?

                                        different minds have different ideas and thoughts isnt it?

                                        the ideas put in mind by either GOD or SATAN?

                                        our brain/conscince reacts to it according to the interpretation feel fit.

                                        i m just figuring it out what is the actual FREEWILL and capacity of that freewill we owned

                                        the ideas makes us what we are today.

                                        personally wana share something
                                        i have also ideas coming in mind from last four five years.
                                        i feel someone is putting ideas against the God?
                                        the i suddenly look into my past and i remember some situations in which a sudden help from God i can feel which again turn my mind that satan is putting ideas.

                                        ?God is unfair? this sentence although exist in grammer but not in human mind.

                                        humanmind programmed in such a way that God is always fair.

                                        taking my case alone i cant say God is unfair with me on other hand i feel blessed sometimes i feel God gave me more favours than others.on some occassions i called on God and miracously i get helped from certain loss.
                                        but leople when they ask questions showing their unfair deals from life then my mind forced me to think about it.

                                        my personal experience is different than what i debate with people.
                                        i dun even know brother u get what i m trying to say ?

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                                          Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                                          IF Unnatural / Illogical / Fallacies

                                          THEN Shaytan / Qareen

                                          ELSE Nature / Truth / Sunnatullah / Way of Allah / Allah -> EcoLogical

                                          Whoever overlooks the remembrance of the Merciful, We assign him a devil, for a companion (QAREEN). They hinder them from the path (Way of Allah > Sunnatullah > LordLaw of Nature > EcoLogic), though they think they are guided / logical / natural. (4336-37)

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