Why did God make most people's destiny Hell
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That's how who should answer it... agree? rotfl
its a video clip of movie OH MY GOD rotfl
so i just shared that as well in which he file a case against God when insurance compny refuse to give the insurance due to God factor of earthquake?
look its difficult to see when i ask but i feel instead of asking i ll give answers now including my own questions but i wanted you guys get train of these questions incase someone asks from you. dun worry take one more day of u want i will
load more questions and if u giys failed i will tey give answers.you can see the emoji in the ending statement.
very few people in life can understand what i m on about so i m not wondering what u r thinking. chill
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the marks of punches from me is still on your face. thats y its natural u want more insults from me just let me know when u satisfied the amount of insult u need in your life.
aww i have my sympathies with u. u have been beaten badly in everywhere.
see what i said to ur sister sarah the questions are from the side of nonbelievers of quran like athiest ? so basiaclly this thread full of questions its another matter if u wan give answers but i have more good things for you to learn as i see ur level of understanding is less than 6th grade kid so better learn basic maths first. dnt waste ur time in debates of intelligent people. lol
Insults of Hypocrites won?t hurt us neither imposters?if it hurts I won?t be here? What hurts me is only when a believer misunderstands me? Believers won?t misunderstand another for long? if each are believers?
Why did God make most people's destiny HellThis is the question and concern of Sarah? simple answer is God knows the unseen and future? Thus He knows the destiny of us? that?s why God predicted the destiny of most to be in Hell even before the most of the human being is yet to be born?.
If you anyone has doubt in my above response.. take the example of Prophet Isa? God chose Mary to give the birth of Isa? Destiny is well known.. Isa cannot go wrong?. Is must end up as a believer? so knowingly chosen?Destiny is not made by God for most people to deserved the agony? but destiny was in the hands of people who chose to live the life in their own ego? Still God gave a chance? But God knew the soul even before placed on physical body.. that?s so simple?.
That?s what a sixth grade would respond you?. Why you elevated me to 6th grade? why not first grade or illiterate? lol?. You guys are destined to be in this way?. ?f******??? such wordings of IK are more proof of his nature / behavior..? have fun in this forum if it is meant for fun and supremacy..? you can have supremacy? for sure? keep it up?. I think such people are intentionally here to divert people from right path?. I think all those who support him may be his own account? he is the one he has multiple accounts?.. Moderators must be knowing this? ?
Don?t worry this 6th grade will be there to correct the seniors?
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its a video clip of movie OH MY GOD rotfl
Why bother at all?
That's the point.. IF YOU REJECT THE MESSENGER (His Books)
THEN why bother about discover the TRUTH, about how you enter into the Contract?
Step 1. Accept His Messengers / Books
Step 2. Find out how you enter into Contractand no worry, we have that videos...
you've seen the same image in your dreams (videos).
It is a divine inspiration. (534) The heart did not invent what it saw. (5311)
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Slm Mahdi Ibrahim,
its still free will, cause you may choose , and if you choose easy path ...it still free will
Who says it's not?
I'm just saying the "ILLUSION" of free will.
You are free to choose, but you are not free from the consequence of your choice.
via. 383
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Insults of Hypocrites won?t hurt us neither imposters?if it hurts I won?t be here?
i know it my brother its very TRUE
insults are like food for you u cant live without it.and upon seeing u in this condition i cant stop myslef helping u doing what u are after.
you should pay thanks to me that i m satisfying you with what u want.
and i m doing it may b good deeds for me to help somebody what he want. hahahahaand in the end u become innocent hahaha memebrs know i only reply when u openly show ur stupidity to me othewise i dunt really reply to your posts or anything once i know who u are in actual?
its you who always force me to discussion and now i understand nobody else can do the insults the way how u addicted from me ? if thats the reason then keep doing it .
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btw i have same position like u have i am also the one who is questioning in this thread as u can see so i dunt think so i ll help u lol may b ? good logic ? will read and reply to you rotfl
why you tease GL as well tempt ..... Am i not enough for you insult? voodoo elektro
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Slm to all ,
when i read the post of MI , i do get what he means ( i think)
simple answer is God knows the unseen and future? Thus He knows the destiny of us? that?s why God predicted the destiny of most to be in Hell even before the most of the human being is yet to be born?.
like Allah knows everything, knows what we gonna do from the birth till dead... cause this knowledge of his , he is telling us whats gonna happen. and that is the majority is going to hell.
its not like he made people/jin to put them in Hell, but due the choices what HIS creations choose, this has his consequents
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but due the choices what HIS creations choose, this has his consequents
Chose to be the kafir of the Sunnatullah (NATURAL CAUSE / LordLaw of Nature), the Unnatural Cause or Way of Life.
Therefore, it is CERTAIN for the UNNATURAL EFFECT (HELL).
-> CONSEQUENCE is NO COINCIDENCE.
What going to happen?
On that Day, We shall ask Hell, Are you now full? Hell will answer, Are there any more? (3824)
Those who have iman and do natural actions, and how few they are! (3824)
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No I said we have REASON and we have a Body. But our body has its own primitive way of thinking, hence why I called it "intelligence", intelligent as far as going after pleasure and avoiding pain. But let's call it instinct, It's the way animals think and live their life. And they do so with harmony because they don't have Reason.
Instinct to Reason is primitive, so as not to say stupid. It lacks any sort of principles. It's stuck with the superficial aspect of things. Reason, however, goes above and beyond things.
Reason is what makes us "gifted" if you want to say. You can't reject it but you can ignore it. Even if you do so you may still get a sense that your life is meaningless.
REASON thats better selection to be honest.
these questions and other questions comes in mind everysingle time and everysingle time we adjust out minds understanding and sorting it out the way we want it.i m thinking by different ways now i dnt even know how to explain what i want to show but as i see ur posts from last two years u appear as a sound/intelligent mind i can happily share and ask from you.
lets start FROM ideas/thoughts ?
different minds have different ideas and thoughts isnt it?
the ideas put in mind by either GOD or SATAN?
our brain/conscince reacts to it according to the interpretation feel fit.
i m just figuring it out what is the actual FREEWILL and capacity of that freewill we owned
the ideas makes us what we are today.
personally wana share something
i have also ideas coming in mind from last four five years.
i feel someone is putting ideas against the God?
the i suddenly look into my past and i remember some situations in which a sudden help from God i can feel which again turn my mind that satan is putting ideas.?God is unfair? this sentence although exist in grammer but not in human mind.
humanmind programmed in such a way that God is always fair.
taking my case alone i cant say God is unfair with me on other hand i feel blessed sometimes i feel God gave me more favours than others.on some occassions i called on God and miracously i get helped from certain loss.
but leople when they ask questions showing their unfair deals from life then my mind forced me to think about it.my personal experience is different than what i debate with people.
i dun even know brother u get what i m trying to say ? -
IF Unnatural / Illogical / Fallacies
THEN Shaytan / Qareen
ELSE Nature / Truth / Sunnatullah / Way of Allah / Allah -> EcoLogical
Whoever overlooks the remembrance of the Merciful, We assign him a devil, for a companion (QAREEN). They hinder them from the path (Way of Allah > Sunnatullah > LordLaw of Nature > EcoLogic), though they think they are guided / logical / natural. (4336-37)
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Peace Mahdi.
Please clarify this
Say I am destined for hell, can I correct my position?Peace Imran.
I know you are trying to put the argument from the point of view of Atheists. No issue with me .Just to let you know I have been there.. I do not know exactly where I am now, but I am trying to work towards being somewhere safe and real!- Whatever that will be-
You see I thought why me? Did I choose to be born here? When and why? Who is responsible for me being here against my choice? Or why do I not recall making any choice before coming here?-I knew it was not my parents, they had no choice either,they do what they do and they get what they get!
So what am I to do?
Cancel me being here, like go to a top of a mountain and shout loud "I do not want to be here" and throw myself from the top of it?- That is if I am successful in achieving an end!!!Or spend my time here kicking and screaming at whoever put me here and refusing to accept any responsibility of finding out for myself? Or...Endless scenarios...
Anyway to cut the story short, I had to look for my own way out of this situation. That is what I have to do to carry on trying to unravel me being here. I am simply using what was given to me(body, eyes, ears, brain?.).
Whether I find out all the answers or not , I still have to pursue the task.
The most important thing I have stopped asking others for my answers. They are in the same situation. I may be interested in what they say but I do not except them to find my answers.
I realise now the most important answer for me is to know me and about me and sort that mess out first.
I have to know who am I in relation to my character ,well being and a safe and healthy relationship with everything that I found with me here(All other creations)..My journey will take me to my destination, where ever I deserve to be at the end.
I do not expect anything from any other being I fear nothing from any other being. I am taking myself on this journey.
I will not allow any other being to take me on my journey, then I will only blame myself for where I end up.GOD bless you both.
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why you tease GL as well tempt ..... Am i not enough for you insult? voodoo elektro
trust me bro i dont wana do it. you forced me to it. so u cant blame me now lol.
about GL hez old enough to fight with me thats y i take advantage of his good nature hahahaha jk.
once u will satisfied and trust me i can feel it and then u will have no more.( hint) TIT for TAT.
i m not born to hate you.
you make me hate you ( now if u wana hint) see the topic racism if u r clever enough u ll understand the root of this cause. -
Peace Mahdi.
Please clarify this
Say I am destined for hell, can I correct my position?Of course, surrender completely to NATURE (SUNNATULLAH) .. be the SUNNATULLAH ALONE MUSLIM.
Make peace with NATURE (SUNNATULLAH).
• MATH Law of Nature (Sunnatullah)
• E Natural Person (Revelation)
• ISM Natural Law / Society (Solat, ie. align our nature with NATURE. Tawba)
Verse 1117
What's so hard to believe in NATURE (SUNNATULLAH)?
They said "Our hearts are sealed!" No, Allah has cursed them for their kufr (of the Sunnatullah / Way of Allah / EcoLogic). What little iman they have (in NATURE / SUNNATULLAH / EcoLogic)! (28
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trust me bro i dont wana do it. you forced me to it. so u cant blame me now lol.
about GL hez old enough to fight with me thats y i take advantage of his good nature hahahaha jk.
once u will satisfied and trust me i can feel it and then u will have no more.( hint) TIT for TAT.
i m not born to hate you.
you make me hate you ( now if u wana hint) see the topic racism if u r clever enough u ll understand the root of this cause.Peace...
Is that you really.... laugh
what a change....
believe it or not i trust everyone in this earth... that's part of my job as well... but i am not blind... while having trust on them i act intelligently....we are not perfect to not to trust others....
but i wish you behave bit decently in the forum.... at least with others for the sake of God and for the interest of guidance.... simply rejuvenate yourself.... use your god gifted knowledge to pass to others in a manner that they can trust you... your reactions here won't at all help you.... i meant it with heart....
God guide you as well clean your mind forever... -
Peace...
Is that you really.... laugh
what a change....
believe it or not i trust everyone in this earth... that's part of my job as well... but i am not blind... while having trust on them i act intelligently....we are not perfect to not to trust others....
but i wish you behave bit decently in the forum.... at least with others for the sake of God and for the interest of guidance.... simply rejuvenate yourself.... use your god gifted knowledge to pass to others in a manner that they can trust you... your reactions here won't at all help you.... i meant it with heart....
God guide you as well clean your mind forever...different people have different styles of playing/singing/posting etc.
my style is bit non-serious/funny but people who know my nature knows it very well why i do it.
funnyway is the most chilled way inwhixh u can easily learn from others.
surveys tells us teacher who are polite with their students. theri students learn a lot from them.when i was kid i never wanted to learn from my teacher who are strict?
even if i want to learn i will not learn it due to the factor of fear.now if you remove (khawajaimran) from ur mind just think a random person is posting.
even on my posts of this thread what i trying to tell people is ?factor of fear related with creator?.i may have different perception of views for my creator example
i dont expect from my creator to let me drink a boiling fluid that will cut my intestine ?what i m trying to say the factor of FEAR in all religions is created by man for lining people up in one system.
from kindergarten to primary you can still see the factor of fear for controlling and lining up one assembly of students in school.
thats only one point of my posts now i let on you to find other good things what i m highlighting.
forget it ( imrankhawa) roundearther
forget it ( funny/arrogant) what he behave
forget it ( book/quran/bible/geeta) what he beleive. -
lets start FROM ideas/thoughts ?
different minds have different ideas and thoughts isnt it?
the ideas put in mind by either GOD or SATAN?
our brain/conscince reacts to it according to the interpretation feel fit.
i m just figuring it out what is the actual FREEWILL and capacity of that freewill we owned
the ideas makes us what we are today.
Imagine someone "insults" you, meaning uses "bad" language to describe you. At first, you have the impression that you have been harmed, to the point where you become angry to various extent and feel compulsed to defend yourself or even attack that person back. But what harm has been done ? what harm did mere "bad" words incur on you ? Absolutely none. It's all in your head. You follow the impression of being harmed and you made the situation worst. Reason makes you rise, we ought to learn to exercice it more often. I also refer to it as being Conscious.
But it's not enough, reason in the back of one's mind can say "cigarettes are bad for me they will surely kill me", but the person still feels enticed to consume cigarettes. What is this thing that drives us then ? That is what Abrahamic faiths refer to as Satan. And it is enslaving people. It doesn't care about what principles you have set to yourself or that you have concluded using Reason that cigarettes are bad. it just wants what it wants.
This is where The Will comes into play. If your Will is weak you will always be overcome by the temptations of "satan". And although you may know that this is good and that is bad you will still SUBMIT to these impulses (satan). It's not only about knowing things. As a side note God's Will is so inconceivable that it's example (in Quran) is of a simple "be".
It doesn't take any science to get a sense of these things, just be mindful of yourself when you sin, and learn about yourself.
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Brother Cerberus.
Even writing in here ,they are merely words that do not affect what we do . Whether we agree or disagree with these words has no baring on what we go and do in our live since our choice depends on either "satin" or "the real self".
If we listen to "satin" then we ignore regardless, but if we listen to our "conscience/self..." we have to check all words said regardless of who said them and ignore bias.
Also most "common sense "words are in our instinct we just choose to ignore them if we do not like them.
So what if I know about hell or heaven or salat or Zakat or. good or bad..If I do not want to do them, this "satin" in me decides to ignore what it does not like to do. Most importantly it ignores what is right most of the time.
I suppose "being clever" is not what we perceive. It is what our "satan" does to us to deceive.
GOD bless you.
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peace GL,
thanks for your reply, its very useful. purpose is to find a solution.
and here we are, thats the only reality.
why we are here? and all those questions related with ?why? always b there?so equation is here again we are here so we need to understand if we are here we are here due to a reason.
everybody/everything is here due to a REASON as brother cerberus said.
everybody have their reasons they start understanding it as they grow older in life.
life without reason become a REAL hell.
@ cerberus i tend to agree with you what u said this REASON thing is beautiful thing to ponder and give us what a human want.
upon aksing these questions i also have similar type of answers like let say PAIN
we see PAIN as pain when we see wild life how a tiger hunt deer.we need to see deer is serving a purpose to feed hungry cubs of tiger. and what if that deer requested God to take a purpose from her.
our situation is something different. we have builtin with a thing thats dangerous like fire. its our self telling us we are here. at the same time the self is quite selfish too u see the start of us we comptete our five million brothers to coming here. its a struggle and logically more the struggle more sweeter the reward.
somehwere in quran
? we have provided you but a little knowledge?
? we have created human being in struggle?although this cigratte example i understand what u trying to say but just wana add in it
tobacco is creation of God and due to this creation millions of people are earning their money. it exist as well as other things like TEA human discoverd it with mysterious coincidencial way.tea leaves accidently fell in to hot water and someone tasted it and thats how TEA is in us having a large industry.
people who dnt smoke they get cancer too they get died too.
so i say its our ? own take ? for understanding whats good for us.
example sugar is good for you not for diabities patient.