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إِنَّ ٱلَّذِینَ كَفَرُوا۟ What have they disavowed?

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    6835 Should We treat the ones who surrendered (and make peace with NATURE/ECOLOGY) the same as those who are criminals!?

    6836 What is wrong with you, how do you judge!?

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    6837 Or do you have another book (of FORCED JUSTICE) which you study?

    6838 In it, you can find what you wish (unnaturally)?

    6839 Or do you have an oath from Us (Natural Order / Natural Justice), extending until the Day of Resurrection, that you can judge as you please?

    6840 Ask them "Who of them will make such a claim"?

    6841 Or do they have partners Then let them bring their partners (in Natural Order), if they are truthful.

    6842 The Day will come when they will be exposed, and they will be required to prostrate, but they will be unable to.

    6843 With their eyes subdued, humiliation will cover them. They were invited to prostrate (to Sunnatullah) when they were whole and able.

    6844 Therefore, let Me deal with those who reject this narration; We will entice them from where they do not perceive.

    6845 And I will lead them on; for My scheming is formidable.

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      Mazhar
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      What is natural order?

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        Mahdi_Ibrahim
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        What is natural order?

        The Sunnatullah.

        Nature + Order/Law

        All the laws with which we automatically comply in this world and all the universal laws have been termed ‘sunnatullah’ in the Quran…

        Everything from the movement of quantum strings and the holographic reality, to relations between universes, the integral energy of the universe, the cosmological relations, and the Arsh, Kursi and the seven heavens and earth within the essence of man, occur in the scope of sunnatullah!

        Sunnatullah has been described as

        “…And you will not find in our sunnah any change.” (Quran 1777)

        “…And never will you find in the System (course) of Allah (sunnatullah) any change.” (Quran 4823)

        “…You will never encounter an alternative for sunnatullah. You will never find a change in the sunnatullah.” (Quran 3543)

        https//www.ahmedhulusi.org/en/article/the-immutable-constants-of-allahs-system-sunnatullah


        The definition of Islam

        The deen in the sight of Allah is Islam. (319)

        Is it other than the deen of Allah (Islam) that you desire, when everything in the heavens and earth , willingly or unwillingly, أَسْلَمَ to Him (LordLaw of Nature) and to Him you will be returned (for its cause and effect, consequences)? (383)

        Islam (ISM / Natural Law) = "everything in the heavens and earth , willingly or unwillingly, أَسْلَمَ to Him (LordLaw of Nature)"

        You are free to choose but you are not free from the consequence of your choice.

        Can your Allah disobey Law of Nature (My God)?

        Proof?

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          Mazhar
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          What does sunnatullah mean?

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            Mahdi_Ibrahim
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            What does sunnatullah mean?

            Open your eyes..

            All the laws with which we automatically comply (WILLINGLY OR UNWILLINGLY) in this world and all the universal laws have been termed ‘sunnatullah’ in the Quran…

            We are only as blind as we want to be. <- Brainwashed ( = People of the Book, "Men are born ignorant, not stupid. They are made stupid by education/BOOK" vs. The UNLETTERED/ Ecological Justice)

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              Mazhar
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              Open your eyes..

              We are only as blind as we want to be. <- Brainwashed ( = People of the Book, "Men are born ignorant, not stupid. They are made stupid by education/BOOK" vs. The UNLETTERED/ Ecological Justice)

              Do you mean to say sunnatallah signifies "open your eyes"?

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                Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                Do you mean to say sunnatallah signifies "open your eyes"?

                I mean stop being a Joker. .

                What is your argument? Reason? Proof?

                Those who are blind in this world will be blind in the Next World and even further off the Path. (1772)

                Of course.. .

                إِنَّ ٱلَّذِینَ كَفَرُوا۟ What have they disavowed?

                They will not have arguments but will say “By Allah, our LordLaw, we were not polytheists.” Look! How they lie against themselves! The lie (unnature) will leave them what they invented. (623-24)

                They think they deceive Allah and those who have iman.
                They deceive no one but themselves but they are not aware of it (Joker). (29) laugh

                so much for wishful thinking....

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                  Mazhar
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                  But what is meant by sunnatallah? Why blind to question.

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                    Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                    But what is meant by sunnatallah? Why blind to question.

                    so now you cannot understand English?

                    All the laws with which we automatically comply (WILLINGLY OR UNWILLINGLY) in this world and all the universal laws have been termed ‘sunnatullah’ in the Quran…

                    Sunnatullah = Way of Allah

                    What is Allah?

                    Allah (is) the LordLaw of the Universe. (12)

                    Allah is the Light/Energy. (2435)

                    Therefore, way of the Universe... Energy, mathematical patterns..

                    ie. LordLaw of Nature

                    Can you possibly know all these laws?

                    Nay! Indeed, man surely transgresses! (966)

                    Impossible... and thus we have Natural Law (Syariatullah) and the theology..

                    The Theology

                    • Law of Nature (Sunnatullah, 3543 - MATH)

                    • Natural Person (Revelation, 6940 - E)

                    • Natural Law (Syariatullah, The Jihad for Natural Society, 6156-158 - ISM)
                    (Tawba is to align our nature/syariatullah with NATURE/SUNNATULLAH)

                    Salat means preserving and restoring natural justice or natural order. The natural order (sunnatullah) is the moral source from which human law should seek to derive its authority. It encompasses the natural relations of beings to one another in the absence of human law (forced justice / political jurisprudence), and which 'salat, zakat and sujud' attempts to reinforce.

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                    As for those who have iman (in the Sunnatullah / Law of Nature) and do right/natural actions — We impose on no self any more than it can bear — they are the Companions of the Garden, remaining in it timelessly, for ever. (742)

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                      Mazhar
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                      Quote from Mazhar on Today at 102717 AM
                      But what is meant by sunnatallah? Why blind to question.

                      so now you cannot understand English?

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                      All the laws with which we automatically comply (WILLINGLY OR UNWILLINGLY) in this world and all the universal laws have been termed ‘sunnatullah’ in the Quran…

                      Sunnatullah = Way of Allah

                      What is Allah?

                      Allah (is) the LordLaw of the Universe. (12)

                      Allah is the Light/Energy. (2435)

                      Threfore, way of the Universe... Energy, mathematical patterns..

                      ie. LordLaw of Nature

                      So your conclusion is that Allah is matter -light/energy!!.

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                        Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                        So your conclusion is that Allah is matter -light/energy!!.

                        Of course..

                        Allah is the Light. (2435)

                        You have other Gods?

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                          Mazhar
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                          Quote from Mazhar on Today at 104026 AM
                          So your conclusion is that Allah is matter -light/energy!!.

                          Of course..

                          Allah is the Light. (2435)

                          You have other Gods?

                          If your allah is matter/light then what is life because matter is void of life

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                            Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                            If your allah is matter/light then what is life because matter is void of life

                            I didn't say Allah is matter (light upon light, the transformation of Energy)...

                            I said Allah is the Light, the ONE LIGHT (without the transformation of Energy or light upon light) ... understand?

                            Of course..

                            Allah is the Light. (2435)

                            matter is void of life

                            Learn physics..

                            Energy cannot be destroyed

                            Energy can be transformed.

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                              Mazhar
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                              I didn't say Allah is matter (light upon light, the transformation of Energy)...

                              I said Allah is the Light, the ONE LIGHT (without the transformation of Energy or light upon light) ... understand?

                              Learn physics..

                              Energy cannot be destroyed

                              Energy can be transformed.

                              I said only that what you said. When your allah is light/matter then it is not living since matter/energy is void of life.

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                                Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                                Where did I said Allah is matter (transformation of Energy)? Please quote...

                                Look! How they lie against themselves!(623-24)

                                He creates man from a clot. (962)

                                clinging = magnetic etc.
                                substance = particles

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                                https//i.pinimg.com/originals/b4/b8/ca/b4b8caf5461c6bc0873167596bd319ec.jpg https//kaiserscience.files.wordpress.com/2015/03/all-in-one-ecosystem-from-atom-to-biosphere.jpg

                                the "Transformation of Energy" (light upon light 2435) ....

                                The Energy never remain and always flows through everything...even the atoms in our body will be replaced for every 1 - 7 years...

                                Studies at the Oak Ridge Atomic Research Center have revealed that about 98 percent of all the atoms in a human body are replaced every year. You get a new suit of skin every month and a new liver every six weeks. The lining of your stomach lasts only five days before it's replaced. Even your bones are not the solid, stable, concrete-like things you might have thought them to be They are undergoing constant change. The bones you have today are different from the bones you had a year ago. Experts in this area of research have concluded that there is a complete, 100 percent turnover of atoms in the body at least every five years. In other words, not one single atom present in your body today was there five years ago.

                                that what makes "..we are not individually him..", and we can NEVER be Him...

                                matter/energy is void of life.

                                Your basic science is terrible...

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                                  Mazhar
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                                  I didn't say Allah is matter (light upon light, the transformation of Energy)...

                                  I said Allah is the Light, the ONE LIGHT (without the transformation of Energy or light upon light) ... understand?

                                  Learn physics..

                                  Energy cannot be destroyed

                                  Energy can be transformed.

                                  You said your allah is light. Light is also in the category of matter. Matter is also transformed. The basic question you are avoiding by gimmicks is about life.

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                                    Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                                    You said your allah is light. Light is also in the category of matter. Matter is also transformed. The basic question you are avoiding by gimmicks is about life.

                                    Matter is "LIGHT UPON LIGHT", "ENERGY UPON ENERGY" ... ie the transformation of Energy.

                                    Allah is the LIGHT of everything in the heavens and earth, ie without the transformation of Energy but the ONE ENERGY..

                                    Say Light, is ONE.... ABSOLUTE (ie. without the transformation of Energy) (1121-2)

                                    Allah is the Light of the heavens and the earth / EVERYTHING. (2435)

                                    similarly, your picture is not you.. .understand?

                                    simple logic..

                                    I didn't say Allah is matter (light upon light, the transformation of Energy)...

                                    I said Allah is the Light, the ONE LIGHT (without the transformation of Energy or light upon light) ... understand?

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                                      Mazhar
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                                      Matter is "LIGHT UPON LIGHT", "ENERGY UPON ENERGY" ... ie the transformation of Energy.

                                      Allah is the LIGHT of everything in the heavens and earth, ie without the transformation of Energy but the ONE ENERGY..

                                      Say Light, is ONE.... ABSOLUTE (ie. without the transformation of Energy) (1121-2)

                                      Allah is the Light of the heavens and the earth / EVERYTHING. (2435)

                                      similarly, your picture is not you.. .understand?

                                      simple logic..

                                      Which light you are you so far talking about?

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                                        Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                                        Which light you are you so far talking about?

                                        Do you know transformation of Energy? laugh

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                                          Mazhar
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                                          Forget about it what I know and what I know not. Just say energy transforms into life or life is something totally different.

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