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God is LOVE

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    imrankhawaja
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    I am starting this thread due to some questions usually comes in the mind of developing child when we tell him about GOD/creator.

    is God a love ?
    do God love creation ?
    how can God can have HUMAN feelings?
    do God FEEL or do God have emotions ?
    how our emotions about GOD react on GOD ?

    HUMAN LOVE GOD

    2165 And from among the people are some who take other than God as equals to Him, they love them as they love God; but those who believe love God more strongly.

    GOD ALSO LOVE

    And Allah loves the steadfast (3 /146) sabreen
    and Allah loves the doers of good (3/134) mohseneen
    Indeed, Allah loves the righteous (9 / 4) mutaqeen
    and Allah loves those who purify themselves. ( 9/ 10 mutahireen
    Indeed, Allah loves those who act justly (60 / muqsiteen

    but sometimes people said emotions are the attributes of human and God is "BEING" beyond human perception.

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      good_logic
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      Peace Imran.

      This is a good but deep topic to unravel.

      What is love? Can love only mean a" good thing/outcome"?

      My view is that love is not an emotion but an action. It may trigger emotion within us .

      If GOD is unique/unlike any other, it does not mean we cannot share some of GOD s attributes. Since GOD only has positive/ good attributes, we should "Nabudu GOD" -mirror/copy/share/try and attain some of these good attributes like love.

      However another question can be asked
      Can we love someone and still correct/punish/admonish them? How far can we go with our sanction?

      To me there are many paths to love. The long term path is the best .i.e a lasting love that looks at the positive final outcome.
      GOD bless you.
      Peace.

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        Mahdi_Ibrahim
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        First, please do not confuse "Love" with "Lust" ... ELSE it will only prove Allah love "LUST Ego, sh*t https//scontent.fkul1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/58629920_2330802453802999_431678289518526464_n.jpg?_nc_cat=105&_nc_ht=scontent.fkul1-1.fna&oh=b8c8d90d5d9381ef29d20d797e6f4592&oe=5D705548" rotfl

        And Allah loves the steadfast (3 /146) sabreen
        and Allah loves the doers of good (3/134) mohseneen
        Indeed, Allah loves the righteous (9 / 4) mutaqeen
        and Allah loves those who purify themselves. ( 9/ 10 mutahireen
        Indeed, Allah loves those who act justly (60 / muqsiteen

        Allah has given you

        • love of iman (facts, natural) and made it pleasing to your hearts

        • and has made (ego, lust, unnatural) kufr, deviance and disobedience hateful to you

        People such as these are rightly guided ie Love (Q497)

        IF Love

        THEN Pure (is nature, natural, unmixed of natural and unnatural, al-masjid al-haraam)

        ELSE Lust (ego)

        Love is like ghosts, which everybody talks about and few have seen.

        because ...

        • Negative people Lust / self-deception always negative to the natural order, and positive friendly terms to unnatural ways of life

        • Positive people Love / soul's integrity always positive to the natural order, and negative enemy to unnatural ways of life

        many are "cowardice" Lust, it is NOT LOVE

        https//pbs.twimg.com/media/B9QvoIHCUAAmeUZ.jpg

        "The essence of bravery is being without self-deception hypocrisy." ~ Pema Chodron

        so before you can say "I LOVE YOU", you must first have the ability to say "I"

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          imrankhawaja
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          how our emotions about GOD react on GOD ?

          brother mahdi this one what u say if its ENERGY behind ?

          energy is matter have no emotions at all peace

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            imrankhawaja
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            What is love?

            BABY dont hurt me
            Don't hurt me
            No more

            https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEXWRTEbj1I

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              hawk99
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              Peace Imran.

              This is a good but deep topic to unravel.

              For sure.

              Let's substitute "approval" in the place of "love" and see what happens.

              And Allah loves approves of the steadfast (3 /146) sabreen
              and Allah loves approves of the doers of good (3/134) mohseneen
              Indeed, Allah loves approves of the righteous (9 / 4) mutaqeen
              and Allah loves approves of those who purify themselves. ( 9/ 10 mutahireen
              Indeed, Allah loves approves of those who act justly (60 / muqsiteen

              Ha-Ba-Ba
              To beloved/beloved,affected/liked/approved, be an object of love,
              lovely/pleasing/charming, take pleasure in a thing, standstill orstop,
              be fatigued or tired, form a thing into something else,fill orstatiate
              a thing (with water or drink), become clotted/form aclot,form or break
              out with pimples/bubbles/small pustules. Tolove, like,wish.

              Just a thought. hmm

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                imrankhawaja
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                Let's substitute "approval" in the place of "love" and see what happens.

                PEACE lovely brother,

                ( &#1576 this root we cant replace with approval coz from the same root lot of words get generated some of them QURAN use as well.

                MEHBOOB = the one who is beloved
                HABU = lovely FRIEND
                MUHABBAT= LOVE/AFFECTION
                HABB= dear TO someone
                HUBB= dearer/ beloved

                and even in urdu (hub-ul-watan) lover of homeland we cant say approval of homeland... hmm

                although LIKED is somewhat similar in meanings only in few places if we take it as "preffered one" preffered due to love for a person..

                i preffered XYZ over XYZ ( due to the emotion of likeness) that turn in to muhabbat(affection).

                God bless you

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                  Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                  brother mahdi this one what u say if its ENERGY behind ?

                  energy is matter have no emotions at all peace

                  nothing at all but how to differentiate between "Love" and "Lust"?

                  First, please do not confuse "Love" with "Lust" ... ELSE it will only prove Allah love "LUST Ego, sh*t https//scontent.fkul1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/58629920_2330802453802999_431678289518526464_n.jpg?_nc_cat=105&_nc_ht=scontent.fkul1-1.fna&oh=b8c8d90d5d9381ef29d20d797e6f4592&oe=5D705548" rotfl

                  surely Allah cannot love "Lust".. Allah is THE MOST HOLY http//www.ezsoftech.com/islamic/99/004.gif laugh

                  • Have you considered him who takes his own lust for his god? (2543)

                  • Have you considered him who takes his own lust for his god? (4523)

                  IF Lust

                  THEN not Love disapproves by Allah

                  ELSE approves by Allah

                  The FORMULA for Love

                  Allah has given you

                  • love of iman (facts, natural) and made it pleasing to your hearts

                  • and has made (ego, lust, unnatural) kufr, deviance and disobedience hateful to you

                  People such as these are rightly guided ie Love (Q497)

                  Love is like ghosts, which everybody talks about and few have seen.

                  How?

                  • God is LUST?

                  • God is LOVE?

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                    Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                    so before you can say "I LOVE YOU", you must first have the ability to say "I"

                    https//i.ibb.co/tCpTjGB/1108.jpg

                    O Noah! Your son was not of your family! (Q1146)

                    Friends love from lover, spouse, parents, family etc on that Day will be foes one to another except Al-Muttaqoon. (Q4367)

                    Therefore, NOT LOVE of Allah, but the love of Shaytan LUST https//scontent.fkul7-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/52582508_2292324167650828_650262846092869632_n.jpg?_nc_cat=111&_nc_ht=scontent.fkul7-1.fna&oh=647a759690094dedcef2e47d583d3e2c&oe=5CECCE6A

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                      amin
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                      God's justice is Love and He makes us learn, fight, struggle, surrender everything out of love.

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                        imrankhawaja
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                        God's justice is Love and He makes us learn, fight, struggle, surrender everything out of love.

                        so its God who make us fight ? .... o is this love ?

                        FIGHT CLUB masjid

                        https//www.movieposter.com/posters/archive/main/137/MPW-68704

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                          imrankhawaja
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                          nothing at all but how to differentiate between "Love" and "Lust"?

                          LUST related with SEX
                          LOVE is VAST in meanings...

                          loving parents,teachers,God,kids,uncle, aunt etc is far from lust or sex...

                          you asked very easy question group but i like tough ones so dnt waste your ENERGY brother..

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                            Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                            LUST related with SEX

                            where did Allah talk about sex?

                            • Have you considered him who takes his own lust for his god? (2543)

                            • Have you considered him who takes his own lust for his god? (4523)

                            Then succeeded after them successors, who neglected the prayer and they followed the lusts so soon, they will meet evil. (Q1959)

                            even modern people don't describe lust merely for sex

                            https//pbs.twimg.com/media/C-j1hrBUIAA4sgA.jpg

                            so how to differentiate?

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                              Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                              so its God who make us fight ? .... is this love ?

                              FIGHT CLUB masjid

                              is this lust?

                              You have an excellent example in Ibrahim and those with him, when they said to their people, "We wash our hands of you and all that you serve apart from Allah/Way of Allah, and we reject you. Between us and you there will be enmity and hatred for ever unless and until you have iman in Allah/Way of Allah/Sunnatullah alone." Except for Ibrahim's words to his father "I will ask forgiveness for you but I have no power to help you in any way against Allah" "Our Lord, we have put our trust in You. and have made tawba to You. You are our final destination." (Q604)

                              The pure natural believer (sunnatulah alone) should not take kafirun (forced justice) as friends rather than pure natural believer. Anyone who does that has nothing to do with Allah at all. (Q32 Your friend is only Allah and His Messenger and those who have iman (in natural justice). (Q555)

                              Is cherry picking lust?

                              Do you believe in one part of the Book and deny another part of it? (Q285)

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                                so its God who make us fight ? .... o is this love ?

                                FIGHT CLUB masjid

                                https//www.movieposter.com/posters/archive/main/137/MPW-68704

                                The world is greedy, sometimes we need to fight and struggle for our survival and this is how He guides us and shows us His love. Do we not fight against slavery and oppression?

                                do not reply me with those images, it looks childish play.

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                                  Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                                  Civil disobedience is an ACT OF LOVE.

                                  https//i.pinimg.com/originals/4d/09/f6/4d09f65b36a6852f2aecd5aecdea9e4e.jpg

                                  So Imran,

                                  What is Love?

                                  What is Lust?

                                  They would like you to be kafir as they are kafir (neutral, bystander, moderate, peacemaker) so that you will all be the same (neutral, bystander, moderate, peacemaker). (Q489) They are neither with you nor with them (neutral, bystander, moderate, peacemaker). (5814, 4143) It is they who are Shaytan's army LUST. (Q5819) ..will be in the lowest depths of the fire. (Q4145)

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                                    imrankhawaja
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                                    The world is greedy, sometimes we need to fight and struggle for our survival and this is how He guides us and shows us His love. Do we not fight against slavery and oppression?

                                    very true brother, thats why INDIA is fighting for their right and they teach lesson to people of KASHMIR again and again on daily basis.. they love God and God love them... PURE love hmm

                                    and GOV love their soldiers who scored most in spreading red color... they have their rewards as medals called best performance...

                                    do not reply me with those images, it looks childish play.

                                    its also TRUE becoz in movies we know its an ACTING of entertainment...its a definate childs play from my side i m appologise for it..
                                    next time i will try to send the REAL images of LOVE of indians for kasmir...

                                    https//www.icit-digital.org/admin/docs/content/featured/574941050d94a_945.png

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                                      imrankhawaja
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                                      @ mahdi brother first I/WE need to prove we are REAL or NOT...

                                      let my learning get better i will come to you ( hope so not in mental asylum) rotfl rotfl

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                                        Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                                        no answer to the issue (clear verses from the Quran) and you insist on your "cherry picking" understanding / "conventional wisdom"?

                                        Is that "love" or "lust"? laugh

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                                          imrankhawaja
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                                          no answer to the issue and you insist on your "cherry picking" understanding?

                                          Is that "love" or "lust"? laugh

                                          what is love ?

                                          baby dnt hurt me dnt hurt me no more... ignore

                                          brother mahdi this one what u say if its ENERGY behind ?

                                          energy is matter have no emotions at all peace

                                          you said

                                          nothing at all but how to differentiate between "Love" and "Lust"?

                                          i m gonna revise it for you as usual spoon-feeding is my job for lot of my intelligent brothers here...

                                          LOVE and LUST both are feelings/emotions how ENERGY/matter can have it ? if have it then explain it whatever u have in your mind.. yes

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