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God is LOVE

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    good_logic
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    Peace Imran.

    This is a good but deep topic to unravel.

    What is love? Can love only mean a" good thing/outcome"?

    My view is that love is not an emotion but an action. It may trigger emotion within us .

    If GOD is unique/unlike any other, it does not mean we cannot share some of GOD s attributes. Since GOD only has positive/ good attributes, we should "Nabudu GOD" -mirror/copy/share/try and attain some of these good attributes like love.

    However another question can be asked
    Can we love someone and still correct/punish/admonish them? How far can we go with our sanction?

    To me there are many paths to love. The long term path is the best .i.e a lasting love that looks at the positive final outcome.
    GOD bless you.
    Peace.

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      Mahdi_Ibrahim
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      First, please do not confuse "Love" with "Lust" ... ELSE it will only prove Allah love "LUST Ego, sh*t https//scontent.fkul1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/58629920_2330802453802999_431678289518526464_n.jpg?_nc_cat=105&_nc_ht=scontent.fkul1-1.fna&oh=b8c8d90d5d9381ef29d20d797e6f4592&oe=5D705548" rotfl

      And Allah loves the steadfast (3 /146) sabreen
      and Allah loves the doers of good (3/134) mohseneen
      Indeed, Allah loves the righteous (9 / 4) mutaqeen
      and Allah loves those who purify themselves. ( 9/ 10 mutahireen
      Indeed, Allah loves those who act justly (60 / muqsiteen

      Allah has given you

      • love of iman (facts, natural) and made it pleasing to your hearts

      • and has made (ego, lust, unnatural) kufr, deviance and disobedience hateful to you

      People such as these are rightly guided ie Love (Q497)

      IF Love

      THEN Pure (is nature, natural, unmixed of natural and unnatural, al-masjid al-haraam)

      ELSE Lust (ego)

      Love is like ghosts, which everybody talks about and few have seen.

      because ...

      • Negative people Lust / self-deception always negative to the natural order, and positive friendly terms to unnatural ways of life

      • Positive people Love / soul's integrity always positive to the natural order, and negative enemy to unnatural ways of life

      many are "cowardice" Lust, it is NOT LOVE

      https//pbs.twimg.com/media/B9QvoIHCUAAmeUZ.jpg

      "The essence of bravery is being without self-deception hypocrisy." ~ Pema Chodron

      so before you can say "I LOVE YOU", you must first have the ability to say "I"

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        imrankhawaja
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        how our emotions about GOD react on GOD ?

        brother mahdi this one what u say if its ENERGY behind ?

        energy is matter have no emotions at all peace

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          imrankhawaja
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          What is love?

          BABY dont hurt me
          Don't hurt me
          No more

          https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEXWRTEbj1I

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            hawk99
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            Peace Imran.

            This is a good but deep topic to unravel.

            For sure.

            Let's substitute "approval" in the place of "love" and see what happens.

            And Allah loves approves of the steadfast (3 /146) sabreen
            and Allah loves approves of the doers of good (3/134) mohseneen
            Indeed, Allah loves approves of the righteous (9 / 4) mutaqeen
            and Allah loves approves of those who purify themselves. ( 9/ 10 mutahireen
            Indeed, Allah loves approves of those who act justly (60 / muqsiteen

            Ha-Ba-Ba
            To beloved/beloved,affected/liked/approved, be an object of love,
            lovely/pleasing/charming, take pleasure in a thing, standstill orstop,
            be fatigued or tired, form a thing into something else,fill orstatiate
            a thing (with water or drink), become clotted/form aclot,form or break
            out with pimples/bubbles/small pustules. Tolove, like,wish.

            Just a thought. hmm

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              imrankhawaja
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              Let's substitute "approval" in the place of "love" and see what happens.

              PEACE lovely brother,

              ( &#1576 this root we cant replace with approval coz from the same root lot of words get generated some of them QURAN use as well.

              MEHBOOB = the one who is beloved
              HABU = lovely FRIEND
              MUHABBAT= LOVE/AFFECTION
              HABB= dear TO someone
              HUBB= dearer/ beloved

              and even in urdu (hub-ul-watan) lover of homeland we cant say approval of homeland... hmm

              although LIKED is somewhat similar in meanings only in few places if we take it as "preffered one" preffered due to love for a person..

              i preffered XYZ over XYZ ( due to the emotion of likeness) that turn in to muhabbat(affection).

              God bless you

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                Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                brother mahdi this one what u say if its ENERGY behind ?

                energy is matter have no emotions at all peace

                nothing at all but how to differentiate between "Love" and "Lust"?

                First, please do not confuse "Love" with "Lust" ... ELSE it will only prove Allah love "LUST Ego, sh*t https//scontent.fkul1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/58629920_2330802453802999_431678289518526464_n.jpg?_nc_cat=105&_nc_ht=scontent.fkul1-1.fna&oh=b8c8d90d5d9381ef29d20d797e6f4592&oe=5D705548" rotfl

                surely Allah cannot love "Lust".. Allah is THE MOST HOLY http//www.ezsoftech.com/islamic/99/004.gif laugh

                • Have you considered him who takes his own lust for his god? (2543)

                • Have you considered him who takes his own lust for his god? (4523)

                IF Lust

                THEN not Love disapproves by Allah

                ELSE approves by Allah

                The FORMULA for Love

                Allah has given you

                • love of iman (facts, natural) and made it pleasing to your hearts

                • and has made (ego, lust, unnatural) kufr, deviance and disobedience hateful to you

                People such as these are rightly guided ie Love (Q497)

                Love is like ghosts, which everybody talks about and few have seen.

                How?

                • God is LUST?

                • God is LOVE?

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                  Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                  so before you can say "I LOVE YOU", you must first have the ability to say "I"

                  https//i.ibb.co/tCpTjGB/1108.jpg

                  O Noah! Your son was not of your family! (Q1146)

                  Friends love from lover, spouse, parents, family etc on that Day will be foes one to another except Al-Muttaqoon. (Q4367)

                  Therefore, NOT LOVE of Allah, but the love of Shaytan LUST https//scontent.fkul7-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/52582508_2292324167650828_650262846092869632_n.jpg?_nc_cat=111&_nc_ht=scontent.fkul7-1.fna&oh=647a759690094dedcef2e47d583d3e2c&oe=5CECCE6A

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                    amin
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                    God's justice is Love and He makes us learn, fight, struggle, surrender everything out of love.

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                      imrankhawaja
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                      God's justice is Love and He makes us learn, fight, struggle, surrender everything out of love.

                      so its God who make us fight ? .... o is this love ?

                      FIGHT CLUB masjid

                      https//www.movieposter.com/posters/archive/main/137/MPW-68704

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                        imrankhawaja
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                        nothing at all but how to differentiate between "Love" and "Lust"?

                        LUST related with SEX
                        LOVE is VAST in meanings...

                        loving parents,teachers,God,kids,uncle, aunt etc is far from lust or sex...

                        you asked very easy question group but i like tough ones so dnt waste your ENERGY brother..

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                          Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                          LUST related with SEX

                          where did Allah talk about sex?

                          • Have you considered him who takes his own lust for his god? (2543)

                          • Have you considered him who takes his own lust for his god? (4523)

                          Then succeeded after them successors, who neglected the prayer and they followed the lusts so soon, they will meet evil. (Q1959)

                          even modern people don't describe lust merely for sex

                          https//pbs.twimg.com/media/C-j1hrBUIAA4sgA.jpg

                          so how to differentiate?

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                            Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                            so its God who make us fight ? .... is this love ?

                            FIGHT CLUB masjid

                            is this lust?

                            You have an excellent example in Ibrahim and those with him, when they said to their people, "We wash our hands of you and all that you serve apart from Allah/Way of Allah, and we reject you. Between us and you there will be enmity and hatred for ever unless and until you have iman in Allah/Way of Allah/Sunnatullah alone." Except for Ibrahim's words to his father "I will ask forgiveness for you but I have no power to help you in any way against Allah" "Our Lord, we have put our trust in You. and have made tawba to You. You are our final destination." (Q604)

                            The pure natural believer (sunnatulah alone) should not take kafirun (forced justice) as friends rather than pure natural believer. Anyone who does that has nothing to do with Allah at all. (Q32 Your friend is only Allah and His Messenger and those who have iman (in natural justice). (Q555)

                            Is cherry picking lust?

                            Do you believe in one part of the Book and deny another part of it? (Q285)

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                              amin
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                              so its God who make us fight ? .... o is this love ?

                              FIGHT CLUB masjid

                              https//www.movieposter.com/posters/archive/main/137/MPW-68704

                              The world is greedy, sometimes we need to fight and struggle for our survival and this is how He guides us and shows us His love. Do we not fight against slavery and oppression?

                              do not reply me with those images, it looks childish play.

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                                Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                                Civil disobedience is an ACT OF LOVE.

                                https//i.pinimg.com/originals/4d/09/f6/4d09f65b36a6852f2aecd5aecdea9e4e.jpg

                                So Imran,

                                What is Love?

                                What is Lust?

                                They would like you to be kafir as they are kafir (neutral, bystander, moderate, peacemaker) so that you will all be the same (neutral, bystander, moderate, peacemaker). (Q489) They are neither with you nor with them (neutral, bystander, moderate, peacemaker). (5814, 4143) It is they who are Shaytan's army LUST. (Q5819) ..will be in the lowest depths of the fire. (Q4145)

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                                  imrankhawaja
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                                  The world is greedy, sometimes we need to fight and struggle for our survival and this is how He guides us and shows us His love. Do we not fight against slavery and oppression?

                                  very true brother, thats why INDIA is fighting for their right and they teach lesson to people of KASHMIR again and again on daily basis.. they love God and God love them... PURE love hmm

                                  and GOV love their soldiers who scored most in spreading red color... they have their rewards as medals called best performance...

                                  do not reply me with those images, it looks childish play.

                                  its also TRUE becoz in movies we know its an ACTING of entertainment...its a definate childs play from my side i m appologise for it..
                                  next time i will try to send the REAL images of LOVE of indians for kasmir...

                                  https//www.icit-digital.org/admin/docs/content/featured/574941050d94a_945.png

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                                    imrankhawaja
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                                    @ mahdi brother first I/WE need to prove we are REAL or NOT...

                                    let my learning get better i will come to you ( hope so not in mental asylum) rotfl rotfl

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                                      Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                                      no answer to the issue (clear verses from the Quran) and you insist on your "cherry picking" understanding / "conventional wisdom"?

                                      Is that "love" or "lust"? laugh

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                                        imrankhawaja
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                                        no answer to the issue and you insist on your "cherry picking" understanding?

                                        Is that "love" or "lust"? laugh

                                        what is love ?

                                        baby dnt hurt me dnt hurt me no more... ignore

                                        brother mahdi this one what u say if its ENERGY behind ?

                                        energy is matter have no emotions at all peace

                                        you said

                                        nothing at all but how to differentiate between "Love" and "Lust"?

                                        i m gonna revise it for you as usual spoon-feeding is my job for lot of my intelligent brothers here...

                                        LOVE and LUST both are feelings/emotions how ENERGY/matter can have it ? if have it then explain it whatever u have in your mind.. yes

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                                          Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                                          baby dnt hurt me dnt hurt me no more... ignore

                                          We have created mankind in the best form (in heavens) Then We returned him to the lowest of the low (from birth). (Q955-6)

                                          i will revised it for you as usual spoon-feeding is my job for lot of my intelligent brothers here...

                                          LOVE and LUST both are feelings/emotions how ENERGY/matter can have it ? if have it then explain it whatever u have in your mind.. yes

                                          You are self-contradicting, and inconsistent with verses from the Quran.. how can that be considered as "intelligent"? Is that "LUST"? rotfl

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