How did we populate the world in the first place
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Thank you brother Imran for you reply.
you always welcome brother novice, i was extremely busy in some personal matters of life what make me reply late. hope u doing good in life..
Adam in Quran is not associated with Wahi, Al-Kitab, Risalat (messengership) or Nabuwat (prophethood).
TRUE, he was not a messenger or prophet as per my understanding... but a masculine proper noun singular .(as per CORPUS)
In my humble understanding from Quran and learned people's writings human race evolved from simple unicellular life to present day complex form.
its also inline with QURAN and EVOLUTION i also represent my findings same way... at first it was unisex (single) then from that unisex (male & female) cell ... and so on...
Recall that God created life from a single life cell, then made male and female cells, and then shaped you into human beings, males and females. (7189).
Sometime in this evolutionary process God chose to give knowledge to evolving humans called "ADAM" in Quran. .
Salam
name ADAM is a proper noun as per corpus and grammer of scholarly rules..i never see quran consider adam as collective noun anywhere..
but i can show you some verses from where we can consider this as colllective noun if that can apply...i think i already highlighted some months ago
https//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9610386.msg419784#msg419784
see my reply 38 and 27 of this thread...
salam and blessing of God .
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Thank you brother Imran. We will keep on researching and try to get more knowledge in sha'a Allah..
God bless you.
inshAllah brother novice.
God bless you too.
once a person in television said to another person "do you know when someone is loved by God the first sign is God provide him with knowledge... as a GIFT".. sometimes i feel he said a deep thing indeed....
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Thanks NK. Let everyone have his/her opinion. We share our undersatndings and keep on learning. Everyone is at a different level of understanding and we learn more as we explore more. Let explore more together and get benefitted.
Thank you brother Novice, you are not like other people here who rebuke people for asking question or differ in opinion.
Really I admire you and Brother Imran in trying to help people understand, as you said everyone is at different level of understanding.
God bless you all
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peace all,
Seems some of you are struggling to interpret The Qur’an according to science!
Do you really believe that God is capable of anything/everything?
What do you think about the Day of Resurrection?
Since most of the generations are already soil, will there be another ‘evolution process’ to become soil to man?Remember, centuries ago there were communities who believed in the Qur’an without the support of these scientific theories!
The learned people you are referring to (e.g. scientists and scholars) are ‘Learned’ in a general view, but we don’t know whether they are truly ‘Learned’ at God.For me as a believer, this is an irrelevant topic like many on this forum.
Why such discussions with our limited knowledge? while we have enough evidences in ourselves and around us which are observable without any equipment, to know and realise God and to live accordingly. -
Since most of the generations are already soil, will there be another ‘evolution process’ to become soil to man?
there were and will be lot of processes by creator and for more details ponder on these verses..
5526 All things therein (in the Universe) are ever changing.
5527 The presence of your Lord will remain, the One with Majesty and Honor. ( one of my FAV verse) which means only REALITY of time/space is the one who mastered it.. we are bound in time space not him...
55 28 so Which authority/marvel/miracle of your Lord will you deny?
5529 All creatures in the heavens and earth seek their needs from Him. everyday He is in some matter.
so we PUNY creation of planet earth in one universe out of billions think God created everything for the residents of planet earth rotfl we have only a timeline less than even million solar years..
there is LOT more there in HEAVENS the things what we cant even imagine/perceive..(and hes providing them on daily basis)
AR-REHMAN is above than what we can associate with him.. hail
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peace all,
Seems some of you are struggling to interpret The Qur’an according to science!
Do you really believe that God is capable of anything/everything?
What do you think about the Day of Resurrection?
Since most of the generations are already soil, will there be another ‘evolution process’ to become soil to man?Remember, centuries ago there were communities who believed in the Qur’an without the support of these scientific theories!
The learned people you are referring to (e.g. scientists and scholars) are ‘Learned’ in a general view, but we don’t know whether they are truly ‘Learned’ at God.For me as a believer, this is an irrelevant topic like many on this forum.
Why such discussions with our limited knowledge? while we have enough evidences in ourselves and around us which are observable without any equipment, to know and realise God and to live accordingly.( ( ( ( (
For translation https//quran.com/30/20-30
So do you really think that we should not reflect on His signs and learn.? Do you think we are supposed to spend our life like animals or even worse than them.
For translation https//quran.com/7/179-189
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peace,
So according to you both, on the Day of resurrection the evolution process (I don't believe in it anyway) will starts from the beginning? And again billions/trillions of years for the judgment of human beings to happen?? Then how all generations will come together?
And the horn will be blown, whereupon everyone in the skies/space and the earth will be struck unconscious, except whom God willed. Then it will be blown another time, whereupon they will all rise up, looking.
And the earth will shine with the light of its Lord, and the record will be placed, and the prophets and the witnesses will be brought forth; and it will then be judged between them with the truth, and they will not be wronged.
And every soul will be paid for whatever it did, for He is fully aware of everything they have done.so we PUNY creation of planet earth in one universe out of billions think God created everything for the residents of planet earth rotfl
"And He manipulated/subjugated FOR YOU what (is) in the skies/space and what (is) in the earth all together
from Him, that truly in that (are) evidences to a nation thinking."No more debate with you people on this topic.
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No more debate with you people on this topic.
Good decision handshake
lets go to kindergarten level
my full line was
so we PUNY creation of planet earth in one universe out of billions think God created everything for the residents of planet earth rotfl we have only a timeline less than even million solar years..
missing parts in DETAIL... for KG level
God created apple for human and apple is in servicefor HUMAN from last 3 hundred thousand years ...
God created first apple when there was not a single human was present on planet earth .... timeline of apple unknown...
now apple must be thinking did God created human being for me(apple) so that i can get consume ?
MORAL/LESSON its dangerous to debate when knowledge level is at dangerous position...
A for APPLE
B for ball and also B for BOLD part of the full sentencef for flat earth yay
dnt get confuse with apple iphone laugh
apple of my eye
wrong senttence = i am apple of my own eye rotfl -
So according to you both, on the Day of resurrection the evolution process (I don't believe in it anyway) will starts from the beginning? And again billions/trillions of years for the judgment of human beings to happen?? Then how all generations will come together?
When did I say there will be evolution in the next life?
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When did I say there will be evolution in the next life?
i didnt said either rotfl
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if you believe that God makes human directly from the soil on the Day of resurrection,
What make u think the life hereafter required physical body of same set of properties what we are having in planet earth at the moment ?
Real self lives inside the body we called "character"
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What make u think the life hereafter required physical body of same set of properties what we are having in planet earth at the moment ?
Real self lives inside the body we called "character"
peace,
“From it We created you and in it We return you, and From it We bring you out another time.”
This is about physical body in my understanding.Qur’an also mentions fruits, meat, drinks etc. many things/properties in the hereafter which are familiar in this world.
Why should I GUESS what is not in the Qur’an? -
peace,
“From it We created you and in it We return you, and From it We bring you out another time.”
This is about physical body in my understanding.Qur’an also mentions fruits, meat, drinks etc. many things/properties in the hereafter which are familiar in this world.
Why should I GUESS what is not in the Qur’an?PEACE brother ,
I m not sure if you read full Quran or not anyway I will help you here.
Your are talking about BODY/material
I m talking about "character"/nafs that generated from the BLOW ( metaphorical) of creator.Every nafs/character will taste death.
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peace,
“From it We created you and in it We return you, and From it We bring you out another time.”
This is about physical body in my understanding.This creation will be destroyed at the end so will humans be recreated before or after the final destruction?
Qur’an also mentions fruits, meat, drinks etc. many things/properties in the hereafter which are familiar in this world.
Why should I GUESS what is not in the Qur’an?1335
Shabbir Ahmed (Quran As It Explains Itself)
1335 The similitude of the Garden which is promised for the righteous, is flowing streams beneath, its fruit everlasting, and cool shades (1425, 4715). This is the end result of the righteous, while the end of the rejecters is Fire.4715
Shabbir Ahmed (Quran As It Explains Itself)
4715 In allegorical terms the Paradise that the righteous are promised is this Therein are rivers of ever fresh water, and rivers of ever fresh milk, and rivers of delicious wine, and rivers of clear-run honey. Therein are all kinds of fruit (of their good deeds), with a life secure from deterioration bestowed upon them from their Lord. Are they like the ones who abide in the fire and are given drinks of burning despair that tears their insides?I hope you understand similtude and allegory.
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PEACE brother ,
I m not sure if you read full Quran or not anyway I will help you here.
Your are talking about BODY/material
I m talking about "character"/nafs that generated from the BLOW ( metaphorical) of creator.Every nafs/character will taste death.
Of course, because You mentioned the same!
In my understanding God created human from clay and He is inspired/blowed from His Rooh (that is Nafs). -
1335 مَّثَلُ ٱلۡجَنَّةِ ٱلَّتِى وُعِدَ ٱلۡمُتَّقُونَۖ تَجۡرِى مِن تَحۡتِہَا ٱلۡأَنۡہَـٰرُۖ أُڪُلُهَا دَآٮِٕمٌ۬ وَظِلُّهَاۚ تِلۡكَ عُقۡبَى ٱلَّذِينَ ٱتَّقَواْۖ وَّعُقۡبَى ٱلۡكَـٰفِرِينَ ٱلنَّارُ
Shabbir Ahmed (Quran As It Explains Itself)
1335 The similitude of the Garden which is promised for the righteous, is flowing streams beneath, its fruit everlasting, and cool shades (1425, 4715). This is the end result of the righteous, while the end of the rejecters is Fire.4715مَّثَلُ ٱلۡجَنَّةِ ٱلَّتِى وُعِدَ ٱلۡمُتَّقُونَۖ فِيہَآ أَنۡہَـٰرٌ۬ مِّن مَّآءٍ غَيۡرِ ءَاسِنٍ۬ وَأَنۡہَـٰرٌ۬ مِّن لَّبَنٍ۬ لَّمۡ يَتَغَيَّرۡ طَعۡمُهُ ۥ وَأَنۡہَـٰرٌ۬ مِّنۡ خَمۡرٍ۬ لَّذَّةٍ۬ لِّلشَّـٰرِبِينَ وَأَنۡہَـٰرٌ۬ مِّنۡ عَسَلٍ۬ مُّصَفًّ۬ىۖ وَلَهُمۡ فِيہَا مِن كُلِّ ٱلثَّمَرَٲتِ وَمَغۡفِرَةٌ۬ مِّن رَّبِّہِمۡۖ كَمَنۡ هُوَ خَـٰلِدٌ۬ فِى ٱلنَّارِ وَسُقُواْ مَآءً حَمِيمً۬ا فَقَطَّعَ أَمۡعَآءَهُمۡ
Shabbir Ahmed (Quran As It Explains Itself)
4715 In allegorical terms the Paradise that the righteous are promised is this Therein are rivers of ever fresh water, and rivers of ever fresh milk, and rivers of delicious wine, and rivers of clear-run honey. Therein are all kinds of fruit (of their good deeds), with a life secure from deterioration bestowed upon them from their Lord. Are they like the ones who abide in the fire and are given drinks of burning despair that tears their insides?I hope you understand similtude and allegory.
My post was to prove the possibility of 'physical element' of human in the hereafter.