How did we populate the world in the first place
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peace all,
Seems some of you are struggling to interpret The Qur’an according to science!
Do you really believe that God is capable of anything/everything?
What do you think about the Day of Resurrection?
Since most of the generations are already soil, will there be another ‘evolution process’ to become soil to man?Remember, centuries ago there were communities who believed in the Qur’an without the support of these scientific theories!
The learned people you are referring to (e.g. scientists and scholars) are ‘Learned’ in a general view, but we don’t know whether they are truly ‘Learned’ at God.For me as a believer, this is an irrelevant topic like many on this forum.
Why such discussions with our limited knowledge? while we have enough evidences in ourselves and around us which are observable without any equipment, to know and realise God and to live accordingly. -
Since most of the generations are already soil, will there be another ‘evolution process’ to become soil to man?
there were and will be lot of processes by creator and for more details ponder on these verses..
5526 All things therein (in the Universe) are ever changing.
5527 The presence of your Lord will remain, the One with Majesty and Honor. ( one of my FAV verse) which means only REALITY of time/space is the one who mastered it.. we are bound in time space not him...
55 28 so Which authority/marvel/miracle of your Lord will you deny?
5529 All creatures in the heavens and earth seek their needs from Him. everyday He is in some matter.
so we PUNY creation of planet earth in one universe out of billions think God created everything for the residents of planet earth rotfl we have only a timeline less than even million solar years..
there is LOT more there in HEAVENS the things what we cant even imagine/perceive..(and hes providing them on daily basis)
AR-REHMAN is above than what we can associate with him.. hail
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peace all,
Seems some of you are struggling to interpret The Qur’an according to science!
Do you really believe that God is capable of anything/everything?
What do you think about the Day of Resurrection?
Since most of the generations are already soil, will there be another ‘evolution process’ to become soil to man?Remember, centuries ago there were communities who believed in the Qur’an without the support of these scientific theories!
The learned people you are referring to (e.g. scientists and scholars) are ‘Learned’ in a general view, but we don’t know whether they are truly ‘Learned’ at God.For me as a believer, this is an irrelevant topic like many on this forum.
Why such discussions with our limited knowledge? while we have enough evidences in ourselves and around us which are observable without any equipment, to know and realise God and to live accordingly.( ( ( ( (
For translation https//quran.com/30/20-30
So do you really think that we should not reflect on His signs and learn.? Do you think we are supposed to spend our life like animals or even worse than them.
For translation https//quran.com/7/179-189
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peace,
So according to you both, on the Day of resurrection the evolution process (I don't believe in it anyway) will starts from the beginning? And again billions/trillions of years for the judgment of human beings to happen?? Then how all generations will come together?
And the horn will be blown, whereupon everyone in the skies/space and the earth will be struck unconscious, except whom God willed. Then it will be blown another time, whereupon they will all rise up, looking.
And the earth will shine with the light of its Lord, and the record will be placed, and the prophets and the witnesses will be brought forth; and it will then be judged between them with the truth, and they will not be wronged.
And every soul will be paid for whatever it did, for He is fully aware of everything they have done.so we PUNY creation of planet earth in one universe out of billions think God created everything for the residents of planet earth rotfl
"And He manipulated/subjugated FOR YOU what (is) in the skies/space and what (is) in the earth all together
from Him, that truly in that (are) evidences to a nation thinking."No more debate with you people on this topic.
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No more debate with you people on this topic.
Good decision handshake
lets go to kindergarten level
my full line was
so we PUNY creation of planet earth in one universe out of billions think God created everything for the residents of planet earth rotfl we have only a timeline less than even million solar years..
missing parts in DETAIL... for KG level
God created apple for human and apple is in servicefor HUMAN from last 3 hundred thousand years ...
God created first apple when there was not a single human was present on planet earth .... timeline of apple unknown...
now apple must be thinking did God created human being for me(apple) so that i can get consume ?
MORAL/LESSON its dangerous to debate when knowledge level is at dangerous position...
A for APPLE
B for ball and also B for BOLD part of the full sentencef for flat earth yay
dnt get confuse with apple iphone laugh
apple of my eye
wrong senttence = i am apple of my own eye rotfl -
So according to you both, on the Day of resurrection the evolution process (I don't believe in it anyway) will starts from the beginning? And again billions/trillions of years for the judgment of human beings to happen?? Then how all generations will come together?
When did I say there will be evolution in the next life?
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When did I say there will be evolution in the next life?
i didnt said either rotfl
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if you believe that God makes human directly from the soil on the Day of resurrection,
What make u think the life hereafter required physical body of same set of properties what we are having in planet earth at the moment ?
Real self lives inside the body we called "character"
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What make u think the life hereafter required physical body of same set of properties what we are having in planet earth at the moment ?
Real self lives inside the body we called "character"
peace,
“From it We created you and in it We return you, and From it We bring you out another time.”
This is about physical body in my understanding.Qur’an also mentions fruits, meat, drinks etc. many things/properties in the hereafter which are familiar in this world.
Why should I GUESS what is not in the Qur’an? -
peace,
“From it We created you and in it We return you, and From it We bring you out another time.”
This is about physical body in my understanding.Qur’an also mentions fruits, meat, drinks etc. many things/properties in the hereafter which are familiar in this world.
Why should I GUESS what is not in the Qur’an?PEACE brother ,
I m not sure if you read full Quran or not anyway I will help you here.
Your are talking about BODY/material
I m talking about "character"/nafs that generated from the BLOW ( metaphorical) of creator.Every nafs/character will taste death.
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peace,
“From it We created you and in it We return you, and From it We bring you out another time.”
This is about physical body in my understanding.This creation will be destroyed at the end so will humans be recreated before or after the final destruction?
Qur’an also mentions fruits, meat, drinks etc. many things/properties in the hereafter which are familiar in this world.
Why should I GUESS what is not in the Qur’an?1335
Shabbir Ahmed (Quran As It Explains Itself)
1335 The similitude of the Garden which is promised for the righteous, is flowing streams beneath, its fruit everlasting, and cool shades (1425, 4715). This is the end result of the righteous, while the end of the rejecters is Fire.4715
Shabbir Ahmed (Quran As It Explains Itself)
4715 In allegorical terms the Paradise that the righteous are promised is this Therein are rivers of ever fresh water, and rivers of ever fresh milk, and rivers of delicious wine, and rivers of clear-run honey. Therein are all kinds of fruit (of their good deeds), with a life secure from deterioration bestowed upon them from their Lord. Are they like the ones who abide in the fire and are given drinks of burning despair that tears their insides?I hope you understand similtude and allegory.
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PEACE brother ,
I m not sure if you read full Quran or not anyway I will help you here.
Your are talking about BODY/material
I m talking about "character"/nafs that generated from the BLOW ( metaphorical) of creator.Every nafs/character will taste death.
Of course, because You mentioned the same!
In my understanding God created human from clay and He is inspired/blowed from His Rooh (that is Nafs). -
1335 مَّثَلُ ٱلۡجَنَّةِ ٱلَّتِى وُعِدَ ٱلۡمُتَّقُونَۖ تَجۡرِى مِن تَحۡتِہَا ٱلۡأَنۡہَـٰرُۖ أُڪُلُهَا دَآٮِٕمٌ۬ وَظِلُّهَاۚ تِلۡكَ عُقۡبَى ٱلَّذِينَ ٱتَّقَواْۖ وَّعُقۡبَى ٱلۡكَـٰفِرِينَ ٱلنَّارُ
Shabbir Ahmed (Quran As It Explains Itself)
1335 The similitude of the Garden which is promised for the righteous, is flowing streams beneath, its fruit everlasting, and cool shades (1425, 4715). This is the end result of the righteous, while the end of the rejecters is Fire.4715مَّثَلُ ٱلۡجَنَّةِ ٱلَّتِى وُعِدَ ٱلۡمُتَّقُونَۖ فِيہَآ أَنۡہَـٰرٌ۬ مِّن مَّآءٍ غَيۡرِ ءَاسِنٍ۬ وَأَنۡہَـٰرٌ۬ مِّن لَّبَنٍ۬ لَّمۡ يَتَغَيَّرۡ طَعۡمُهُ ۥ وَأَنۡہَـٰرٌ۬ مِّنۡ خَمۡرٍ۬ لَّذَّةٍ۬ لِّلشَّـٰرِبِينَ وَأَنۡہَـٰرٌ۬ مِّنۡ عَسَلٍ۬ مُّصَفًّ۬ىۖ وَلَهُمۡ فِيہَا مِن كُلِّ ٱلثَّمَرَٲتِ وَمَغۡفِرَةٌ۬ مِّن رَّبِّہِمۡۖ كَمَنۡ هُوَ خَـٰلِدٌ۬ فِى ٱلنَّارِ وَسُقُواْ مَآءً حَمِيمً۬ا فَقَطَّعَ أَمۡعَآءَهُمۡ
Shabbir Ahmed (Quran As It Explains Itself)
4715 In allegorical terms the Paradise that the righteous are promised is this Therein are rivers of ever fresh water, and rivers of ever fresh milk, and rivers of delicious wine, and rivers of clear-run honey. Therein are all kinds of fruit (of their good deeds), with a life secure from deterioration bestowed upon them from their Lord. Are they like the ones who abide in the fire and are given drinks of burning despair that tears their insides?I hope you understand similtude and allegory.
My post was to prove the possibility of 'physical element' of human in the hereafter.
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Another question to ask related to this is
- Did Adam and Eve have belly button?
rotfl thats very interesting indeed.
belly button is for providing food.. in the belly of mother.(current animals)
for this we have to go back to the first ANIMAL/s soon after the biological life started on planet earth somewhere billion years ago..
first generation of ANIMAL/s to see , but archeology only finds the species what were the last/final (for example) the last species of dinosaurs ...
we always found the LAST ones , lets see when we found the FIRST ones...
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My post was to prove the possibility of 'physical element' of human in the hereafter.
456 Those who have rejected Our revelations, We will admit them to a Fire. Every time their skins are cooked, We replace them with other skins that they may taste the retribution. God is Noble, Wise.
why thinking so much when the ongoing process of skin changing factories are there rotfl rotfl
Of course, because You mentioned the same!
In my understanding God created human from clay and He is inspired/blowed from His Rooh (that is Nafs).
RED what did i mention ?( i didnt mix body with character)
BLUE from water every moving creature he created started from big BLAST (2130)
so you think God gona punish his OWN rooh rotfl thats hilarious
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NOTE sometimes criminals leave the evidences of same pattern of crime in sites where they commit the crime like a serial killer only use a special type of weapon.
there is a VIRUS (old one) in someones CPU/brain what resulted in ARABIC turn in to PROGRAMMING language.. rotfl police
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peace imrankhawaja,
I think I didn’t make you correct in the beginning when you said
What make u think the life hereafter required physical body of same set of properties what we are having in planet earth at the moment ?
Real self lives inside the body we called "character"
I never said (even never thought) that.
It was my mistake, apologies.peace Novice,
if you are depending science(evolution) for human origin, how will you interpret these verses?(5112-115)
Where God sent down a feast from the sky/space!
Probably it might have contained fruits in it(since fruits were/are the basic/best food for human) if so, what about its parental plants/primitive forms? where did it grown?
Even if no fruits, will the science agree with that?