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  • WakasW Offline
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    Wakas
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    peace,

    One can ask any question. I recommend to read and study The Quran.

    https//misconceptions-about-islam.com/misconception.php?id=9

    If there were gods in them (heaven and earth) except for God, then they would have been ruined...

    The question you ask is a paradox/contradiction, e.g. since God is considered to have infinite power it is not possible to have separate entities each with infinite power. Infinite power, by definition, means encompasses everything, there is no start and end, there is no separation. If such a thing was possible chaos would result which I believe is what the verse above alludes to.

    All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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      jkhan
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      Peace

      I was wondering for a little while, can God actually make someone else a god or give up being God himself if he wanted to? Or can he create another god? Is it possible for him? Isn't everything possible for him since he can do anything?

      I feel horrible asking but these questions have been bugging me for a while because I want to understand God's nature...

      P.s. is it haram to ask this sort of question? I'm asking out of curiosity of the nature of God...

      Your question is totally against the fundamental of God's order and the basic of belief.. "La ilaha illallah " No god but Allah/God...
      If God said so... He won't create any such god/s.. Does He?
      Even if any claim so, no no no.. He can do anything so He can create god or gods or goddess.. Then I say No... God cannot create... God has His uniqueness to deserve as God that He has explained in quran...
      If He create as you claim a god then it can only be His son or daughter.. Does He deserve a son or daughter? Is it His nature.. He rejects such claims vehemently...
      Whatever God created are His slaves, None but slaves even how powerful they could be...
      Don't you see how much God is against calling Jesus as son of God.. It's a great blasphemy... May be without knowledge what you claim may be a great blasphemy... God save you..
      He is purer from creating sons and daughters in the form of gods or goddesses...
      Non is equal to Him.. He is the first and the last... So No place for any ignorance...
      He is not the one to give His supreme power to anyone...

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        good_logic
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        Also basically if anything is created, it cannot be a god. So whatever GOD creates is only GOD s creation.

        However, GOD s creation take on other gods beside GOD Alone .

        So GOD has created other gods for those who want them.

        GOD bless you.
        Peace.

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          jkhan
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          There is no 'forbidden' question, as those who ask shall receive... and through mistakes we'll learn.

          Your question is only valid within a context when you perceive / think the word "God" means a deity, a human king, an entity which is finite (has borders / limit of presence) and are separated from the rest of 'creation'. As such you can point to a location and say "God is here" and "God is not there" or vice versa "God is there" and "God is not here". And also God is going there and God is moving away from here.

          People of the past perceived the word "God" as such. A deity who acted more like a human king, living high in the sky or sitting on top of a holy mountain or even having presence only within specific location (a temple, a box, inside statue etc..). Within such viiew the notion of "I am going to X to visit God" or "I am going to X saying goodbye

          I am totally agaisnt what you claim brother...
          Follow whatever you want.. Coz its your life... But I have a path.. That's our God written path..

          How would you say above highlighted..
          11401 "Say I seek refuge in the LORD of MANKIND"
          11402 "The KING of MANKIND,"
          11403 "god of men"

          We have such a God though you don't..

          2144 "We have certainly seen the turning of your face, , toward the heaven, .... ..."
          Yes we will look sky whenever we want to.. Coz We believe our Lord lives there... Is that an issue for you? Yes He is living above the sky. On His Arsh..

          6917 "And the angels will be on its sides, and eight will, that Day, BEAR the THRONE of thy Lord above them."

          9129 ".... He is the Lord of the Great THRONE."

          1003 "Indeed, your Lord is Allah , who created the heavens and the earth in six days and then established Himself above the THRONE ..."

          That's why the Messenger looked at sky coz he knew where his Lord has presence..

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            jkhan
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            Peace.

            17111 "And say 'Praise belongs to God, who has not taken to Him a SON, and who has not any ASSOCIATE in the Kingdom, nor any PROTECTOR out of humbleness.' And magnify Him with repeated magnificats."

            6101-102 Originator of the heavens and the earth. How could He have a SON when He does NOT have a COMPANION and He created all things? And He is, of all things, Knowing. That then is God your Lord; there is no god but He, the Creator of everything. So serve Him, for He is GUARDIAN over everything..

            When God says He can't have Son without partner, the. It means He can't.. Any doubt? No way He can... Coz having SON is only through a Female as per God's system..... Same system God claims for Himself... So One who is born to God as son can only be god's son.. so God has no such quality.. That's why He openly say He can't...

            Is One God better or god's? That's what God claim...
            4381 Say "If (Allah) Most Gracious had a SON, I would be the FIRST to WORSHIP"

            ponder dear.. Why need to WORSHIP if God had a SON... coz the Son of God is none other but another God..
            So lock down your question..

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              hawk99
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              Peace Sarah

              There is only one creator.

              Had there been within the heavens and earth gods besides Allah , they
              both would have been ruined. So exalted is Allah , Lord of the Throne, above
              what they describe.

              and

              Say, "If there were any other gods beside Him, as they claim, they would
              have tried to overthrow the Possessor of the throne."

              Be He glorified, He is much too exalted, far above their utterances.

              One can ask any question. I recommend to read and study The Quran.

              agreed

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                Amra94
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                1121
                Say, "He is God, One,

                1122
                God, the Eternal, the Absolute.

                1123
                He neither begets nor is born,

                1124
                Nor is there to Him any equivalent."

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                  Cerberus
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                  2144 "We have certainly seen the turning of your face, , toward the heaven, .... ..."
                  Yes we will look sky whenever we want to.. Coz We believe our Lord lives there... Is that an issue for you? Yes He is living above the sky. On His Arsh..

                  6917 "And the angels will be on its sides, and eight will, that Day, BEAR the THRONE of thy Lord above them."

                  9129 ".... He is the Lord of the Great THRONE."

                  1003 "Indeed, your Lord is Allah , who created the heavens and the earth in six days and then established Himself above the THRONE ..."

                  That's why the Messenger looked at sky coz he knew where his Lord has presence..

                  Here is an interesting quote from early islam mystic Mansur al-Hallaj

                  "What earth is this so in want of you they rise up on high to seek you in heaven? Look at them staring at you right before their eyes, unseeing, unseeing, blind.
                  Creatures perish in the darkened blind of quest, knowing intimations. Guessing and dreaming they pursue the real, faces turned toward the sky whispering secrets to the heavens. While the lord remains among them in every turn of time abiding in their every condition every instant. Never without him, they, not for the blink of an eye — if only they knew! nor he for a moment without them."

                  Of course this poem is in line with these two verses
                  "Wherever you turn there is the face of god"
                  And
                  "We are closer to him than (his) jugular vein"

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                    amin
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                    You should first question like who or what is God, before moving to these other questions,
                    Do we have the knowledge to understand that? If we have then God is limited.

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                      hawk99
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                      Peace

                      give up being God himself if he wanted to?

                      You should first question like who or what is God, before moving to these other questions,
                      Do we have the knowledge to understand that? If we have then God is limited.

                      I agree

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