compilation of verses on salat
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Thanks for the links.
566 And if they had upheld / aqamoo the Torah and the Gospel, and what was sent down to them from their Lord, they would have been rewarded from above them and from beneath their feet. From
among them is a pious nation, but most of them only do evil.2241 Those whom, if We allow them to have authority in the land, they hold / aqamoo the Connection, and they contribute towards purification, and they prohibit vice. And to God is the conclusion of all matters.
we can say that aqamoo the Connection / salat = aqamoo alquran
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salam houriya
i was only asking your opinion on what salat is and how do you go about tour salat (if tou think it is physical)
also, my understanding is that The God is not “in us” as you mention. for me it is actually a blasphemy to say what you said
The God is Himself and i understand He is on the throne above the waters (my understanding is that dark matter/energy is actually water) and i understand His throne is as wide as the universe, and that existence is under his throne, as all existence belongs to Him
i understand The God is closer to us than our jugular veins and obviously knows everything we conceal or make evident (to even think is a permission from Him)
so i strongly disagree with your “in us” statementpeace
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salam houriya
i was only asking your opinion on what salat is and how do you go about tour salat (if tou think it is physical)
I dont know
also, my understanding is that The God is not “in us” as you mention. for me it is actually a blasphemy to say what you said
God is the best judge.
573 He is the First and the Last, the Evident and the Innermost. And He is fully aware of all things.
it's important to understand in what we believe or what some people deny.
For me God is in every form and outside of every form. God is everywhere. That's what drives life in us. it is what animates the universes..The God is Himself and i understand He is on the throne above the waters (my understanding is that dark matter/energy is actually water) and i understand His throne is as wide as the universe, and that existence is under his throne, as all existence belongs to Him
i understand The God is closer to us than our jugular veins and obviously knows everything we conceal or make evident (to even think is a permission from Him)
so i strongly disagree with your “in us” statement573 He is the First and the Last, the Evident and the Innermost. And He is fully aware of all things.
peace
Peace
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Peace,
245 And seek help through patience and through the Connection. It is great only for the humble.
Here is the translation (google) of the word alkhashi3een translated by humble
وَضْع يكون فيه المرء مُسْتجمَّ الحواسّ أو الأفكارA situation in which one is relaxed by senses or thoughts.
According to my understanding, salat, reading alquran is not just mechanical. All our senses must be awakened for a conscious connection with the creator.
God acts in us, purifies us when we are in this state of connection. Virtue emerges naturally effortlessly.
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Peace,
Below a compilation of verses where we read words with the same root as "khashi'een".
I quote the translation from FM, I don't completely share the interpretations of this word.2189
And Zechariah when he called out to his Lord "My Lord, do not leave me without an heir, and You are the best inheritor."2190
So We responded to him, and We granted him John, and We cured his wife. They used to hasten to do good, and they would call to Us in joy and in fear. And of Us they were reverent / they were humbled to us / khashi'een.3335
Surely, the submitting males, and the submitting females, the believing males, and the believing females, the devout males, and the devout females, the truthful males, and the truthful females, the patient males, and the patient females, the humble males, and the humble females, the charitable males, and the charitable females, the fasting males, and the fasting females, the males who maintain their chastity, and the females who maintain, and the males who commemorate God frequently, and the females who commemorate; God has prepared for them a forgiveness and a great recompense.3199
And from the people of the Book are those who believe in God and what was sent down to you and what was sent down to them; fearful / khashi'een to God, they do not purchase with the revelations of God a cheap price. These will have their recompense with their Lord. For God is swift in reckoning.4139
And from among His signs is that you see the land still / khashi'atan, then, as soon as We send down the water upon it, it shakes and grows. Surely, the One who revived it can revive the dead. He is capable of all things.4245
And you will see them being displayed to it, in fearful / khash'eena humiliation, and looking, while trying to avoid looking. And those who believed will say "The losers are those who lost their souls and their families on the Day of Resurrection. The transgressors will be in a lasting retribution."5921
Had We sent down this Qur'an to a mountain, you would have seen it trembling / khashi'an, crumbling, out of concern from God. And such are the examples We put forth for the people, that they may reflect.6843
khashi'atan their eyes With their eyes subdued, humiliation will cover them. They were invited to prostrate when they were whole and able.882
Faces on that Day which will be shamed / khashi'atun.20108
On that Day, they will follow the caller, there is no crookedness to him. And khasha'ati all voices will be humbled for the Almighty, you will not be able to hear except whispers.17109
And they fall upon their chins crying, and it increases them in humility / khushoo'an.5716
Has not the time come for those who believed to open up / khasha'at their hearts for the remembrance of God, and the truth that is revealed herein? And they should not be like those who were given the Book before, and the waiting became long for them, so their hearts became hardened, and many of them were wicked.232
Those who in their salat are humble / khashi'oon .Peace
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salam houriya
you say “For me God is in every form and outside of every form. God is everywhere. That's what drives life in us. it is what animates the universes.. “
i dont understand what makes you say that about The God
The God is Himself and He is on His Throne beyond creation, which belongs to Him
i think it’s a true blasphemy what you say about Him being in everyone or everything, really and truly a blasphemy to say that which you are saying
peace
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salam houriya
sorry did not mean any disrespect
i just truly believe that what you say about The God being in everything is not good, and that is my opinion that’s all
yes The God knows everything and what everyone and everything conceals and makes evident, but He is on His throne above the waters
and we have little knowledge of what “ruh” is so we cannot speculate on that
peace
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it doesn't matter what you think about my post, God didn't mandate you as an associate to judge the members of the forum. In the future, I advise you to refrain from being arrogant towards another member. We are here to share our understanding of the message with mutual respect. We can agree on our disagreement. We exchange, we do not judge.
it doesn't make sense to start your post with salam, peace and accuse a member of blasphemy.
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salam
ohhh there was no arrogance or judgement plse forgive me if that was the intonation that you felt...it was not my intention
i just shared my opinion which is that i truly think it is really incorrect to say what you said and one should not say it, that is all
the only judge is The God
peace sister houriya
