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    jkhan
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    peace, not avoiding anything only showing it is irrelevant and inconsistent with other chapters; simple one offs and not "coincidence" when people go through numerous trials hiding failures only posting 1/19 or 31 and 10 etc., in colors.

    peace, no phenomena what's posted simpleton numerology, done with most any text.

    likewise anything based on verse chapters is failure since those are all over the place.

    old manuscripts initials not counted separate, different counts, even flipped chapters.

    21 31 291 301 311 321 الم alif lam meem (together with next verse in old manuscripts)
    71 المص alif lam meem saad ( ...)
    191 كهىعص kaaf ha ya ain saad (...)
    201 طه ta ha (...)
    261 281 طسم ta seen meem (...)
    361 ىس ya seen (...)
    401 411 421 431 441 451 461 حم ha meem (...)
    422 عسق ayn seen qaf (...)

    no issues chapter/verses was only for quick reference and error checking etc.

    again no pattern only meaningless stuff posted by novices clueless on basics.

    they are embarrassing should focus on reading instead of flipping numbers.

    It's okay brother... It is meaningful up until now for me and most believers.. If I find it is meaningless one day, then I will let you know...
    Even the chapter 74 those verses also meaningless... Or what is the meaning of that.. Does it really make Christians and Jews belief into a different level? If so how? Give example within verses of chapter 74?

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      Noon_waalqalami
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      It's okay brother... It is meaningful up until now for me and most believers.. If I find it is meaningless one day, then I will let you know...
      Even the chapter 74 those verses also meaningless... Or what is the meaning of that.. Does it really make Christians and Jews belief into a different level? If so how? Give example within verses of chapter 74?

      peace,

      Infatuation of rejecters asking why 19 increased the faith of believers not 1980s numerology!
      It’s opposite unless unaware of basic math not going to convince people like our brother John.

      likewise, read what is written not words that are not there and pay attention to prefix usage.

      7431 وما and not جعلنا made we of اصحب companions النار the fire الا except ملىكه controllers (angels)
      وما and not جعلنا made we of عدتهم count theirs الا except فتنه fitna للذىن for the ones كفروا reject they of

      (there is no “wa/and” next word)

      لىستىقن liyastayqina/to convinced الذىن the ones اوتوا given they of الكتب the book
      وىزدد wayazdada/and increased الذىن the ones امنوا believes they of اىمنا faith of
      ولا and not ىرتب yartaba/doubted الذىن the ones اوتوا given they of الكتب the book
      والمومنون and those believing

      ولىقول waliyaqula/and to sayeth الذىن the ones فى in قلوبهم hearts theirs مرض illness والكفرون and the rejecting
      ماذا what hath اراد intends الله the god بهذا in this مثلا similitude of? (questioning why 19 over abyss?)

      كذلك like such ىضل misguided الله the god من whom ىشا willed of وىهدى and guided من whom ىشا willed of
      وما and not ىعلم knoweth جنود soldiers (angels 926, 339, 484, 487) ربك lord your الا except هو he
      وما and not هى it is الا except ذكرى reminder للبشر to the mortal

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        jkhan
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        QUESTION NO. 07...

        what is the fate of those Monothoistic people who lived before the advent of Jesus? They in fact didn't know about son of God in the name of Jesus.. They believed in one God and they passed away? What would Jesus as God and as the judge on the day of Judgement would decide on those monotheistic righteous people.. For example Nuh, Ibrahim Musa etc.. Are they disblievers since they didn't accept Jesus as God and God as Trinity... Literally they all were duped by having to accept God is One..

        Additional Question.. Then what about those who came after Jesus's crucifixion and followed a monotheistic path taking God as one? For example Jews who continued in their monotbestic faith...

        Christianity must be having a clear cut answer to these questions.. Aren't they?
        Believing in God is a choice of a person.. Isn't it? But believing in Trinity compulsion towards something which has no authority or proof.. Sheer assumptions...
        Believing in one God or being an atheist is individual's personal preference... But believing other than that, is propagandized religious cult ..

        Can one understand the mammoth discrepancies here by accepting Jesus as God?

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          jkhan
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          QUESTION NO 08...

          very good research... I hope you have verified... Just verify so simple ..

          https//youtu.be/8vNebyXMcFU

          https//youtu.be/lRod5MSbLec

          That's pretty cool

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            good_logic
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            No future quantum computer or anything else will mange such composition.

            placing a text that has both numeracy and literacy matching 100%.

            You need some supernatural knowledge to make sure each letter s place fits within the whole text as well as making sure the text makes sense ,conveys laws , commands and gives instructions exactly within the context and arrangement of each letter to make words ,proper sentences fit exactly to deliver both the mathematical and linguistic composition.
            No wonder the text gives the challenge to anyone doubting this "miraculous" composition.

            Or coincidence ?
            To me, coincidence is just as impossible here as the text being human made.
            GOD bless.
            Peace.

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              jkhan
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              No future quantum computer or anything else will mange such composition.

              placing a text that has both numeracy and literacy matching 100%.

              You need some supernatural knowledge to make sure each letter s place fits within the whole text as well as making sure the text makes sense ,conveys laws , commands and gives instructions exactly within the context and arrangement of each letter to make words ,proper sentences fit exactly to deliver both the mathematical and linguistic composition.
              No wonder the text gives the challenge to anyone doubting this "miraculous" composition.

              Or coincidence ?
              To me, coincidence is just as impossible here as the text being human made.
              GOD bless.
              Peace.

              Peace big brother..
              Hope you are doing fine...

              We all know in our life time coincidences do take place.. Just so simple..
              We all have read many a book.. Why this particular book has gone through to this much extent fir its numerical pattern... For some those who don't except mere 19 numerical phenomena deny stating various reason while they still believe in Quran..thats their choice.. Fine..
              But we can see many a glaring numerical and word and phrases which are totally not even relevant to 19.. How many more are hidden God only knows.. Sheer incredible... After seeing all these videos or websites and after verification how can one close the eyes neglecting... Impossible by a person who has a heart...
              Miracles are not meant for disbelievers till death.. But miracles are for those who deserve guidance..
              When the magicians came in the morning as disbelievers and as enemy as well.. But ended up as enemy of the one who called them.. And even were ready for crucifixion... That's the difference my lovely brother... Coz those magicians never were onto any religion or arrogant on anything.. They were magicians.. And well versed too.. They well perceived with what Musa did.. They were not astonished by witnessing another powerful magician... But their eyes were opened to God's guidance.. Thru realized that was real.. So no one can create a real snake.. Fortunate magicians.. Normally magicians never prosper.. But they left their magic with the eye witness of true miracle..

              Let those who deny, they are like king pharoa.. Knew but could not surrender... Reason is arrogance and sold the truth at the expense of falsehood...

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                good_logic
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                Peace jkhan..

                Can I add this one?

                https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBIsHwa29gc

                GOD bless you.
                Peace.

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                  jkhan
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                  Peace jkhan..

                  Can I add this one?

                  https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBIsHwa29gc

                  GOD bless you.
                  Peace.

                  Oh.. Sure brother...

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                    jkhan
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                    QUESTION NO.. 09

                    https//youtu.be/PgwkWpc3Cyw

                    This phenomenon really astonished me... Mind popping...
                    Simply speechless... Incredible..
                    God gradually discloses the miraculous Quran to the people...

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                      jkhan
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                      QUEATION NO.. 10..

                      really fascinating his researches.. Any objections?

                      https//youtu.be/CTk2swcuR4M

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                        jkhan
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                        QUESTION NO. 11

                        https//youtu.be/gcD9LRPuT-Q

                        Can you just deny this?

                        Look these are not miracle of 19 ... Why these extremely complexed numerical structure is in fact positioned within this book? Is it just coincidence as they say? How can a sensible person claim that it is coincidence?
                        If coincidence bring a book which has similar phenomena with numbers... So simple..

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