MISCELLANEOUS...... ..
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Peace,
Again, it is called the "unseen" for a reason. Allah gives us his attributes in Quran.
We can only guess what's behind the veil. 37peace
Salam both GL and hawk...
Yes perhaps... It is a subject we shouldn't dig deep.. For sure Ghaib unseen but unseen and declared manifest by chapter 112 ... He is not begotten not begets... Unseen but manifested... None is equal to him... Unseen but manifested...
Perhaps... Let's not talk about it... Coz we can't conclude... handshake hailThank you everyone...
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QUESTION NO. 05
This person has some wonderful researches... Worth watching.. Have you watched his videos before?
https//youtu.be/bW-pbywzyvM
1030 بسم in name الله the god الرحمن the almighty الرحىم the merciful
1031 والعصر and (by) the epoch
1032 ان indeed الانسن the humankind لفى surely in خسر loss
1033 الا except الذىن the ones امنوا believes they of وعملوا and work they of الصلحت the righteous وتوصوا and exhort they of بالحق in the truth وتوصوا and exhort they of بالصبر in the patiencePeace, all such numerology is inconsistent and predictable – try other short chapters.
Arabic word in Qur'an ~4.22 letters
Letters / verses (approximations) 328,272 / 77,881 x 7 = 29.5High probability chapters with 7 verses to get 29 30 31
3 11 بسم bismi/in name
5 12 الحمد al-hamdu/the praise
6 13 الرحمن al-rahmani/the almighty
3 14 ملك maliki/sovereign
4 15 اىاك iyyaka/that you
5 16 اهدنا ihdina/guides us
3 17 صرط sirata/path29 total
4 11 الله l-lahi/the god
3 12 لله lillahi/to god
6 13 الرحىم l-rahimi/the merciful
3 14 ىوم yawmi/day
4 15 نعبد nabudu/we devote
5 16 الصرط l-sirata/the path
5 17 الذىن alladhina/the ones30 total
6 11 الرحمن l-rahmani/the almighty
2 12 رب rabbi/lord
0 13
5 14 الدىن l-dini/the last
5 15 واىاك wa-iyyaka/and that you
8 16 المستقىم l-mustaqima/the straight
5 17 انعمت anamta/favors thou31 total
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The arrangement of Qoran cannot have been done by other than GOD. Impossible. GOD counted every letter ,word, verse and chapter and placed them.
The mathematical arrangement cannot be coincidence. I can add to your examples
https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktYm_gtyjmcThis is the tip of the iceberg.
Thanks for the thread.
GOD bless you.
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I can add to your examples
https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktYm_gtyjmc1080 بسم in name الله the god الرحمن the almighty الرحىم the merciful
1081 انا indeed we اعطىنك gives we you الكوثر the abundance
1082 فصل so set out لربك to lord your وانحر and sacrifice
1083 ان indeed شانىك hater your هو he الابتر the tail-less (cut off)https//corpus.quran.com/wordimage?id=77301
peace, how many chapters "consistently" have that same pattern?
scroll 219 min in video 12 alif with bsm or 9 alif (no bsm) not 10!
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Peace Noon.
You do not agree with one, quote
"scroll 219 min in video 12 alif with bsm or 9 alif (no bsm) not 10!£Therefore all the rest are coincidence?
You do not like the numbering of Qoran? You will stop at nothing-0- to avoid them!!
No matter what fits. It means nothing-0- to you.
Well 100% of those that are true fit, the rest do not count.Or do you get 0% do not fit?
You just want to put people in their place because you hate numbers.
GOD just put the letters in Qoran in their right place numbered.
To you number 19 and number 20 got in a fight and 21.
You find a lot of negative numbers issues but it does not add up.Me I know why 7 ate 9? Because he needs 3 squared meals a day.
Me I do tricks with numbers. I can make seven even. I take the "s" away!
No worries brother. If It is all silly patterns to you. Then what does it mean ? Nothing-0-.GOD bless you.
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1030 بسم in name الله the god الرحمن the almighty الرحىم the merciful
1031 والعصر and (by) the epoch
1032 ان indeed الانسن the humankind لفى surely in خسر loss
1033 الا except الذىن the ones امنوا believes they of وعملوا and work they of الصلحت the righteous وتوصوا and exhort they of بالحق in the truth وتوصوا and exhort they of بالصبر in the patiencePeace, all such numerology is inconsistent and predictable – try other short chapters.
Arabic word in Qur'an ~4.22 letters
Letters / verses (approximations) 328,272 / 77,881 x 7 = 29.5High probability chapters with 7 verses to get 29 30 31
3 11 بسم bismi/in name
5 12 الحمد al-hamdu/the praise
6 13 الرحمن al-rahmani/the almighty
3 14 ملك maliki/sovereign
4 15 اىاك iyyaka/that you
5 16 اهدنا ihdina/guides us
3 17 صرط sirata/path29 total
4 11 الله l-lahi/the god
3 12 لله lillahi/to god
6 13 الرحىم l-rahimi/the merciful
3 14 ىوم yawmi/day
4 15 نعبد nabudu/we devote
5 16 الصرط l-sirata/the path
5 17 الذىن alladhina/the ones30 total
6 11 الرحمن l-rahmani/the almighty
2 12 رب rabbi/lord
0 13
5 14 الدىن l-dini/the last
5 15 واىاك wa-iyyaka/and that you
8 16 المستقىم l-mustaqima/the straight
5 17 انعمت anamta/favors thou31 total
Peace..
I understand your stance when it comes to numerical pattern in quran not only 19 but all other phenomena..
It is your choice.. But one thing I don't understand is how come all these researches are coincidence while you believe in the same book (in fact if you do. Lets hope you do).. Do you have something that didn't digest to you somewhere from the inception.. LolCan you bring me any religious book or any other book which went through to this much extent to explore numerical pattern... Coincidence can happen here and there... But glaring evidences.. How one intellectually declines it saying nothing but coincidence.. I wish this much coincidences happen in my life..
If you are somewhat agaisnt the one who disclosed initially about number 19 and what is written in chapter 74 then why discard all the rest..
When I saw chromosomes pattern of animals or birds I was astonished.. Not coz I am prejudiced, but I can't go against my natural instinct after reasoning it..Anyway.. It won't make any of your belief go in vain.. Coz as believers we believe in God and whatever He ordered us to believe and we are trying our level best to do good and be righteous... That's what important...
But your evidence against numerical pattern in quran is so fragile.. It is in vain.. Why you are working hard to prove that there is no numerical pattern in quran.. While our faith in God kept increasing while looking at these patterns.. Don't you like believers increase their faith in God..nonsensical magics can't augment one's faith save truth...
Keep trying though.. Lets see what else is hidden in this Quran..
No grudges.. Okay bro.. We all believe in same God.. group -
You do not agree with one, quote
"scroll 219 min in video 12 alif with bsm or 9 alif (no bsm) not 10!£Therefore all the rest are coincidence?
You do not like the numbering of Qoran? You will stop at nothing-0- to avoid them!!
peace, not avoiding anything only showing it is irrelevant and inconsistent with other chapters; simple one offs and not "coincidence" when people go through numerous trials hiding failures only posting 1/19 or 31 and 10 etc., in colors.
I understand your stance when it comes to numerical pattern in quran not only 19 but all other phenomena..
peace, no phenomena what's posted simpleton numerology, done with most any text.
likewise anything based on verse chapters is failure since those are all over the place.
old manuscripts initials not counted separate, different counts, even flipped chapters.
21 31 291 301 311 321 الم alif lam meem (together with next verse in old manuscripts)
71 المص alif lam meem saad ( ...)
191 كهىعص kaaf ha ya ain saad (...)
201 طه ta ha (...)
261 281 طسم ta seen meem (...)
361 ىس ya seen (...)
401 411 421 431 441 451 461 حم ha meem (...)
422 عسق ayn seen qaf (...)no issues chapter/verses was only for quick reference and error checking etc.
again no pattern only meaningless stuff posted by novices clueless on basics.
they are embarrassing should focus on reading instead of flipping numbers.
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peace, not avoiding anything only showing it is irrelevant and inconsistent with other chapters; simple one offs and not "coincidence" when people go through numerous trials hiding failures only posting 1/19 or 31 and 10 etc., in colors.
peace, no phenomena what's posted simpleton numerology, done with most any text.
likewise anything based on verse chapters is failure since those are all over the place.
old manuscripts initials not counted separate, different counts, even flipped chapters.
21 31 291 301 311 321 الم alif lam meem (together with next verse in old manuscripts)
71 المص alif lam meem saad ( ...)
191 كهىعص kaaf ha ya ain saad (...)
201 طه ta ha (...)
261 281 طسم ta seen meem (...)
361 ىس ya seen (...)
401 411 421 431 441 451 461 حم ha meem (...)
422 عسق ayn seen qaf (...)no issues chapter/verses was only for quick reference and error checking etc.
again no pattern only meaningless stuff posted by novices clueless on basics.
they are embarrassing should focus on reading instead of flipping numbers.
It's okay brother... It is meaningful up until now for me and most believers.. If I find it is meaningless one day, then I will let you know...
Even the chapter 74 those verses also meaningless... Or what is the meaning of that.. Does it really make Christians and Jews belief into a different level? If so how? Give example within verses of chapter 74? -
It's okay brother... It is meaningful up until now for me and most believers.. If I find it is meaningless one day, then I will let you know...
Even the chapter 74 those verses also meaningless... Or what is the meaning of that.. Does it really make Christians and Jews belief into a different level? If so how? Give example within verses of chapter 74?peace,
Infatuation of rejecters asking why 19 increased the faith of believers not 1980s numerology!
It’s opposite unless unaware of basic math not going to convince people like our brother John.likewise, read what is written not words that are not there and pay attention to prefix usage.
7431 وما and not جعلنا made we of اصحب companions النار the fire الا except ملىكه controllers (angels)
وما and not جعلنا made we of عدتهم count theirs الا except فتنه fitna للذىن for the ones كفروا reject they of(there is no “wa/and” next word)
لىستىقن liyastayqina/to convinced الذىن the ones اوتوا given they of الكتب the book
وىزدد wayazdada/and increased الذىن the ones امنوا believes they of اىمنا faith of
ولا and not ىرتب yartaba/doubted الذىن the ones اوتوا given they of الكتب the book
والمومنون and those believingولىقول waliyaqula/and to sayeth الذىن the ones فى in قلوبهم hearts theirs مرض illness والكفرون and the rejecting
ماذا what hath اراد intends الله the god بهذا in this مثلا similitude of? (questioning why 19 over abyss?)كذلك like such ىضل misguided الله the god من whom ىشا willed of وىهدى and guided من whom ىشا willed of
وما and not ىعلم knoweth جنود soldiers (angels 926, 339, 484, 487) ربك lord your الا except هو he
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QUESTION NO. 07...
what is the fate of those Monothoistic people who lived before the advent of Jesus? They in fact didn't know about son of God in the name of Jesus.. They believed in one God and they passed away? What would Jesus as God and as the judge on the day of Judgement would decide on those monotheistic righteous people.. For example Nuh, Ibrahim Musa etc.. Are they disblievers since they didn't accept Jesus as God and God as Trinity... Literally they all were duped by having to accept God is One..
Additional Question.. Then what about those who came after Jesus's crucifixion and followed a monotheistic path taking God as one? For example Jews who continued in their monotbestic faith...
Christianity must be having a clear cut answer to these questions.. Aren't they?
Believing in God is a choice of a person.. Isn't it? But believing in Trinity compulsion towards something which has no authority or proof.. Sheer assumptions...
Believing in one God or being an atheist is individual's personal preference... But believing other than that, is propagandized religious cult ..Can one understand the mammoth discrepancies here by accepting Jesus as God?
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No future quantum computer or anything else will mange such composition.
placing a text that has both numeracy and literacy matching 100%.
You need some supernatural knowledge to make sure each letter s place fits within the whole text as well as making sure the text makes sense ,conveys laws , commands and gives instructions exactly within the context and arrangement of each letter to make words ,proper sentences fit exactly to deliver both the mathematical and linguistic composition.
No wonder the text gives the challenge to anyone doubting this "miraculous" composition.Or coincidence ?
To me, coincidence is just as impossible here as the text being human made.
GOD bless.
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No future quantum computer or anything else will mange such composition.
placing a text that has both numeracy and literacy matching 100%.
You need some supernatural knowledge to make sure each letter s place fits within the whole text as well as making sure the text makes sense ,conveys laws , commands and gives instructions exactly within the context and arrangement of each letter to make words ,proper sentences fit exactly to deliver both the mathematical and linguistic composition.
No wonder the text gives the challenge to anyone doubting this "miraculous" composition.Or coincidence ?
To me, coincidence is just as impossible here as the text being human made.
GOD bless.
Peace.Peace big brother..
Hope you are doing fine...We all know in our life time coincidences do take place.. Just so simple..
We all have read many a book.. Why this particular book has gone through to this much extent fir its numerical pattern... For some those who don't except mere 19 numerical phenomena deny stating various reason while they still believe in Quran..thats their choice.. Fine..
But we can see many a glaring numerical and word and phrases which are totally not even relevant to 19.. How many more are hidden God only knows.. Sheer incredible... After seeing all these videos or websites and after verification how can one close the eyes neglecting... Impossible by a person who has a heart...
Miracles are not meant for disbelievers till death.. But miracles are for those who deserve guidance..
When the magicians came in the morning as disbelievers and as enemy as well.. But ended up as enemy of the one who called them.. And even were ready for crucifixion... That's the difference my lovely brother... Coz those magicians never were onto any religion or arrogant on anything.. They were magicians.. And well versed too.. They well perceived with what Musa did.. They were not astonished by witnessing another powerful magician... But their eyes were opened to God's guidance.. Thru realized that was real.. So no one can create a real snake.. Fortunate magicians.. Normally magicians never prosper.. But they left their magic with the eye witness of true miracle..Let those who deny, they are like king pharoa.. Knew but could not surrender... Reason is arrogance and sold the truth at the expense of falsehood...
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Peace jkhan..
Can I add this one?
https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBIsHwa29gc
GOD bless you.
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QUESTION NO. 11
https//youtu.be/gcD9LRPuT-Q
Can you just deny this?
Look these are not miracle of 19 ... Why these extremely complexed numerical structure is in fact positioned within this book? Is it just coincidence as they say? How can a sensible person claim that it is coincidence?
If coincidence bring a book which has similar phenomena with numbers... So simple..