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Does quran says humans think by heart?

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    good_logic
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    Does science really say the intellect resides only in the brain? proof please?

    Intellect is an attribute that is said of the soul and body combined and as it relates to the body, it is produced through a combination of the heart , brain,, seeing hearing, doing ...etc
    Hence, it is not exclusive to any organ but is connected to the soul ,and especially heart and brain that collectively play a role of a live person in producing the attribute of intellect , and within those roles, the heart is in the driver's seat and the brain is an accomplice and without heart and the soul there is no life, hence reason is said of all three.
    Intellect is an attribute and not a thing in and of itself that can be said to be "here" or "there". The attribute of intellect arises when the soul/life and mind, heart and brain function to provide thought, imagination, desire, choice, speech and action and this attribute can be present, absent, strong, weak, abundant or scarce in a person.
    This attribute can also be worked on to improve it.
    GOD bless.
    Peace.

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      Mahdi20
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      Peace jkhan

      U said You don't read anything well and relatively failed to grasp what I have written... Don't rush to answer by just browsing...
      Now I think you are surely a typical Iranian who s eccentric.. I have met many Iranians who thinks they are Americans byvjnowlwdge and look.. That's why most of them are eccentric..

      nope Racist rotfl , be careful bro, satan was a racist too rotfl nope pr

      U said Why... 10000 animals voice Sulaiman hearing 24/7 rotfl rotfl
      I do hear 1000s of people talking every day.. But I can't even remember what they even conversed.. Sulaiman was not living in the valley of ants.. He was a king.. How fallacy your basic logic is..

      Do you know how many insects are around you? rotfl

      U said Again I reiterate.. God spoke the truth.. He has clearly written in wonderful Arabic that human reflect with Heart.. That us to say organ heart.. No one can deny it with any logic. If anyone tries he is trying to go in line with science... That's so manifest...

      I said it so many times, if any book really say this, it just shows that the author was a creation with limited knowledge of his times

      U said Where in the world it is finalized that hearts only function is pumping blood.. Bring proofs..
      Science is ever evolving on many things.. Human body is one of those.. Human bodies functions and reactions etc etc is not finalized.. Still going on..
      You ate just a medical student as per you.. Don't try to be over smart like someone on his last moments of experiment yo claim science has confirmed..

      Yes i am a student , so go ask a professor rotfl

      U said Even great Aristotle said heart is pivotal and brain act as secondary...

      rotfl rotfl Brother, if u said a sentence like this at the beggining, i wouldnt waste my time by talking with you.

      I hope that your Brains rotfl are in good health

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        Mahdi20
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        Peace good logic,

        U said it is produced through a combination of the heart , brain,, seeing hearing, doing ...etc

        How do you see? How do you hear? How you smell? How do you love? How do you fear? Where is the center of emotions? Why heart damage doesnt change your emotions? Why limbic system damage destroy your emotions? Does mental illness treatment include working on brain or heart? How does anti depression drugs work?Why people get depression? How do you do your acts? How do you solve math problems? What is the mechanism of ECT?
        Why some people are in coma? Why some are in vegetative state?

        Brother do you know why some people here say that its a metaphor or it has another meaning ? Because they have basic knowledge about our body.

        Brother you and everybody that says heart thinks have 6 ways

        1-Go read funny articles from unreliable sources
        2-Go read reliable sources
        3-Go to a Hospital and see people with brain/heart damage
        4-Go to university
        5-Ask a Professor
        6-Think by the way you like

        God bless you

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          centi50
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          Salam to all

          An-Naml 2716

          وَوَرِثَ سُلَيْمَٰنُ دَاوُۥدَۖ وَقَالَ يَٰٓأَيُّهَا ٱلنَّاسُ عُلِّمْنَا مَنطِقَ ٱلطَّيْرِ وَأُوتِينَا مِن كُلِّ شَىْءٍۖ إِنَّ هَٰذَا لَهُوَ ٱلْفَضْلُ ٱلْمُبِينُ

          And Solomon inherited David. He said, "O people, we have been taught the language of birds, and we have been given from all things. Indeed, this is evident bounty."

          So to you ant is not ant bird is bird right?

          So tell us what are they please.

          What is your interpretation of these verses

          God bless all

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            good_logic
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            Peace Mahdi.

            We’re still a long way off from knowing for certain which parts of the brain create intelligence or whether any do , or whether this is even a reasonable puzzle to solve.
            P-FIT seems to be one of the theory around, No proof yet.
            As our technology and understanding develops, hopefully we’ll have a more complete picture of intelligence in the future.
            This is what I am telling you.
            Or state your proof.
            GOD bless you.
            Peace.

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              good_logic
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              Peace Mahdi20.

              This is continuing towards stale mate.
              You are insisting that science knows everything about the brain and heart, yet science is clearly saying that there are more to know about how we think and what and where is the intellect.
              If GOD is the one who created us ,surely GOD knows more than science?
              So what is your problem? You want to convince us that science has all our answers and that Qoran is not compatible and contradicts it?

              Look back at your posts, no evidence ,just your own argument in your own words about science and assumptions about Qoran.

              May be you also argue the same about our posts, in that case Qoran is wrong according to you. Is this where we should part company with our conversation and you ditch Qoran?
              I have no more to say brother except the following
              There is no equal to the one who created and controls every soul. Is science informing GOD of something on earth or anywhere else He does not know?
              I think you are just fabricating empty statements that science to its credit has not established yet and is still searching.
              Your choice, you do not have to believe Qoran, however you have not brought any evidence to confirm any contradiction or false statement in Qoran with science.

              Thank you brother.
              GOD bless you.
              Peace.

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                Mahdi20
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                Peace Mahdi20.

                Look back at your posts, no evidence ,just your own argument in your own words

                nope pr

                Havent i telled you to go read any reliable book about physiology? yay rotfl

                Its is not logical to teach chapters of a book here, is it? peace nope

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                  Mahdi20
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                  Salam to all

                  An-Naml 2716

                  وَوَرِثَ سُلَيْمَٰنُ دَاوُۥدَۖ وَقَالَ يَٰٓأَيُّهَا ٱلنَّاسُ عُلِّمْنَا مَنطِقَ ٱلطَّيْرِ وَأُوتِينَا مِن كُلِّ شَىْءٍۖ إِنَّ هَٰذَا لَهُوَ ٱلْفَضْلُ ٱلْمُبِينُ

                  And Solomon inherited David. He said, "O people, we have been taught the language of birds, and we have been given from all things. Indeed, this is evident bounty."

                  So to you ant is not ant bird is bird right?

                  So tell us what are they please.

                  What is your interpretation of these verses

                  God bless all

                  Brother read interpretation of dr shabbir ahmad ,muhammad ali,ghulam ahmed parwiz

                  The first is available in quranix.org

                  For the 2nd and 3rd search the net, i am busy otherwise i would send it here for you

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                    Emre_1974tr
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                    John, why do you continue this charade?

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                      Iyyaka
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                      peace, all languages billions (they’re not all dumb) speaking English "heart" symbolizes individual emotion as in Albanian "zemra" to Slavic "srce" to Zulu "inhliziyo" not always the physical pump.
                      Likewise, the same with "fuadu" and "qalb" CONTEXTE is your friend!

                      2810 واصبح and became فواد fuadu/heart (inner emotion) ام mother موسى Musa فارغا empty of (hopeless) ان indeed كادت near she لتبدى to disclose به in him لولا if not ان that ربطنا strengthened we of على upon قلبها qalbiha/heart (mind/persona) hers لتكون to she being من of المومنىن the believers (masculine plural)

                      Yes the verse 2810 expresses very well the richness and the subtlety of the Arabic language. 2 words which are, to my knowledge, always translated, in classical translations, by the word "heart" (fuadu and qalbiha) whereas they are two words with different roots which are used.

                      • al Fouad would come from fahada which contains the meaning of "to cook"
                        => thus here, in context, a "heart which burns", by the fact of having thrown/abandoned its child on water (one feels its emotion/inner state)

                      • al Qalb would come from taqaloub which contains the meaning of "turning-revering-inverting-changing of a thing, its mode or manner of being".
                        => Faced with the situation Musa's mother was balancing between two emotional and intellectual antagonistic inner states trust and fear. So, if God had not strengthened her "heart/alQalb" she could have disclosed everything (reversed God's plan), fear taking over.

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