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    Peace Brother Noon

    يُوصِيكُمُ ٱللَّهُ فِىٓ أَوۡلَـٰدِڪُمۡ‌ۖ لِلذَّكَرِ مِثۡلُ حَظِّ ٱلۡأُنثَيَيۡنِ‌ۚ فَإِن كُنَّ نِسَآءً۬ فَوۡقَ ٱثۡنَتَيۡنِ فَلَهُنَّ ثُلُثَا مَا تَرَكَ‌ۖ وَإِن كَانَتۡ وَٲحِدَةً۬ فَلَهَا ٱلنِّصۡفُ‌ۚ وَلِأَبَوَيۡهِ لِكُلِّ وَٲحِدٍ۬ مِّنۡہُمَا ٱلسُّدُسُ مِمَّا تَرَكَ إِن كَانَ لَهُ ۥ وَلَدٌ۬‌ۚ فَإِن لَّمۡ يَكُن لَّهُ ۥ وَلَدٌ۬ وَوَرِثَهُ ۥۤ أَبَوَاهُ فَلِأُمِّهِ ٱلثُّلُثُ‌ۚ فَإِن كَانَ لَهُ ۥۤ إِخۡوَةٌ۬ فَلِأُمِّهِ ٱلسُّدُسُ‌ۚ مِنۢ بَعۡدِ وَصِيَّةٍ۬ يُوصِى بِہَآ أَوۡ دَيۡنٍ‌ۗ ءَابَآؤُكُمۡ وَأَبۡنَآؤُكُمۡ لَا تَدۡرُونَ أَيُّهُمۡ أَقۡرَبُ لَكُمۡ نَفۡعً۬ا‌ۚ فَرِيضَةً۬ مِّنَ ٱللَّهِ‌ۗ إِنَّ ٱللَّهَ كَانَ عَلِيمًا حَكِيمً۬ا (١١)]

    Why "MA" and "MIMMA" are used in 411

    Please help understanding it.

    Thank you

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      Peace Brother Noon

      يُوصِيكُمُ ٱللَّهُ فِىٓ أَوۡلَـٰدِڪُمۡ‌ۖ لِلذَّكَرِ مِثۡلُ حَظِّ ٱلۡأُنثَيَيۡنِ‌ۚ فَإِن كُنَّ نِسَآءً۬ فَوۡقَ ٱثۡنَتَيۡنِ فَلَهُنَّ ثُلُثَا مَا تَرَكَ‌ۖ وَإِن كَانَتۡ وَٲحِدَةً۬ فَلَهَا ٱلنِّصۡفُ‌ۚ وَلِأَبَوَيۡهِ لِكُلِّ وَٲحِدٍ۬ مِّنۡہُمَا ٱلسُّدُسُ مِمَّا تَرَكَ إِن كَانَ لَهُ ۥ وَلَدٌ۬‌ۚ فَإِن لَّمۡ يَكُن لَّهُ ۥ وَلَدٌ۬ وَوَرِثَهُ ۥۤ أَبَوَاهُ فَلِأُمِّهِ ٱلثُّلُثُ‌ۚ فَإِن كَانَ لَهُ ۥۤ إِخۡوَةٌ۬ فَلِأُمِّهِ ٱلسُّدُسُ‌ۚ مِنۢ بَعۡدِ وَصِيَّةٍ۬ يُوصِى بِہَآ أَوۡ دَيۡنٍ‌ۗ ءَابَآؤُكُمۡ وَأَبۡنَآؤُكُمۡ لَا تَدۡرُونَ أَيُّهُمۡ أَقۡرَبُ لَكُمۡ نَفۡعً۬ا‌ۚ فَرِيضَةً۬ مِّنَ ٱللَّهِ‌ۗ إِنَّ ٱللَّهَ كَانَ عَلِيمًا حَكِيمً۬ا (١١)]

      Why "MA" and "MIMMA" are used in 411

      Please help understanding it.

      Thank you

      peace Novice,
      like "please excuse my dear aunt sally" order of operations in a math equation parentheses, exponents, multiplication, division, addition, subtraction (tells what to do first). It's important to remember any sole inheritor/s daughter/s, son/s, etc., get the whole.

      if two or more classes need to ensure who gets paid first
      e.g., parent 1/6 مما mimma/from what ترك left ان if كان be له for him (said person) ولد offspring

      1/6 parent fixed payoff taken "from what left" i.e., the whole, 5/6 remainder
      five daughters and son فلهن so for them ثلثا third dual (2/3) ما ma/what ترك left
      5/9 (2/3*5/6) five daughters (1/9 each) NOT 2/3 taken from the whole
      5/18 son (remainder/unstated always variable)

      examples no offspring 412
      ولكم and for you (pl.) نصف half ما ma/what ترك left ازوجكم spouses yours (pl.)
      ولهن and for them (pl.) الربع the fourth مما mimma/from what تركتم left you (pl.)

      father unstated (only one variable allowed), mother 1/3 (411)
      1/3 mother fixed pay off taken from the whole
      1/4 wife fixed pay off taken "from what left" i.e., the whole
      5/12 father (remainder)
      NOT payoff wife 1/4 then take 3/4 remainder give father twice as to mother

      1/3 mother fixed pay off taken from the whole, 2/3 remainder
      1/3 husband "what left" of 2/3 remainder (1/2*2/3 = 1/3)
      1/3 father (remainder)
      NOT payoff husband 1/2 then take 1/2 give father twice as to mother

      that’s case if parents are alone 1/3 mother and 2/3 father (remainder)

      all examples are here https//www.academia.edu/39919602/Quran_Inheritance

      peace!

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        Peace Noon

        Thank you for your explanation. It makes it very clear.

        Stay blessed.

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          Peace Brother Noon

          يُوصِيكُمُ ٱللَّهُ فِىٓ أَوۡلَـٰدِڪُمۡ‌ۖ لِلذَّكَرِ مِثۡلُ حَظِّ ٱلۡأُنثَيَيۡنِ‌ۚ فَإِن كُنَّ نِسَآءً۬ فَوۡقَ ٱثۡنَتَيۡنِ فَلَهُنَّ ثُلُثَا مَا تَرَكَ‌ۖ وَإِن كَانَتۡ وَٲحِدَةً۬ فَلَهَا ٱلنِّصۡفُ‌ۚ وَلِأَبَوَيۡهِ لِكُلِّ وَٲحِدٍ۬ مِّنۡہُمَا ٱلسُّدُسُ مِمَّا تَرَكَ إِن كَانَ لَهُ ۥ وَلَدٌ۬‌ۚ فَإِن لَّمۡ يَكُن لَّهُ ۥ وَلَدٌ۬ وَوَرِثَهُ ۥۤ أَبَوَاهُ فَلِأُمِّهِ ٱلثُّلُثُ‌ۚ فَإِن كَانَ لَهُ ۥۤ إِخۡوَةٌ۬ فَلِأُمِّهِ ٱلسُّدُسُ‌ۚ مِنۢ بَعۡدِ وَصِيَّةٍ۬ يُوصِى بِہَآ أَوۡ دَيۡنٍ‌ۗ ءَابَآؤُكُمۡ وَأَبۡنَآؤُكُمۡ لَا تَدۡرُونَ أَيُّهُمۡ أَقۡرَبُ لَكُمۡ نَفۡعً۬ا‌ۚ فَرِيضَةً۬ مِّنَ ٱللَّهِ‌ۗ إِنَّ ٱللَّهَ كَانَ عَلِيمًا حَكِيمً۬ا (١١)]

          Why "MA" and "MIMMA" are used in 411

          Please help understanding it.

          Thank you

          ثُلُثَا مَا It is Possessive Phrase; dual with Noon dropped for Possessive Phrase; nominative; denotes two third; and second is Relative Pronoun. And its relative clause is sentence تَرَكَ Verb Perfect; third person; singular; masculine; Subject pronoun hidden; مصدر-تَرْكٌ Verbal Noun. Its object is elided (العائد محذوف أي تركه). The subject is obviously the deceased father.

          In the next sentence both the deceased and beneficiaries are different set of people.

          وَلِأَبَوَيْهِ لِـكُلِّ وَٟحِدٛ مِّنْـهُـمَا ٱلسُّدُسُ مِمَّا تَرَكَ إِن كَانَ لَهُۥ وَلَـدٚۚ

          The third person singular masculine pronoun and the subject pronoun of تَرَكَ is the deceased son. Here parents of deceased son are prioritized and allocated the share, for which Prepositional Phrase مِمَّا is used. And it is subject to the ground situation that the deceased has also left a son.

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            وَلِأَبَوَيْهِ لِـكُلِّ وَٟحِدٛ مِّنْـهُـمَا ٱلسُّدُسُ مِمَّا تَرَكَ إِن كَانَ لَهُۥ وَلَـدٚۚ
            It is an inverted nominal sentence, with a condition tagged.

            وَ Conjunction particle . It is a coordinator that links to element in the preceding discourse.

            لِأَبَوَيْهِ It is a Prepositional Phrase coupled with Possessive Phrase. It relates to the fronted elided predicate, which can be a verb or verbal noun, which is evidently understood by the preposition. Preposition denotes "for" indicating that something is directed at somebody, done to benefit somebody. Its object noun is definite by construct as the possessive pronoun is definite. The suffixed third person singular personal pronoun has no explicit antecedent for reference. A pronoun refers to one, clear, unmistakable antecedent noun. But it is explicit in the sentence as to who is referred by it, the person who has died leaving behind heritage and bereaved parents and a son. Succinctness in Qur’ān has no parallel; a sentence of equal length is economized by inverting the sentence having a pronoun in the Subject that refers to person in the Predicate, which has no explicit antecedent. If the deceased was married daughter, this will mutatis mutandis apply.

            لِـكُلِّ وَٟحِدٛ It is a Prepositional Phrase coupled with Possessive Phrase. It is Equivalent Appositive to the preceding two phrases. "The Equivalent Appositive is a word which has attributed to it whatever is attributed to its principle while the subordinate is intended for the attribution not its principle". It resembles to English language "restrictive appositive" when the second element limits or clarifies the foregoing one in some crucial way. These phrases mean "for each one".

            مِّنْـهُـمَا It is a Prepositional Phrase relating to elided specification for the preceding indefinite cardinal noun. This clause takes care of a situation where the father and mother of the deceased Man might be in a separated state-Matrimonial Bond broken, or even his Mother had become during his life the wife of a man other than his Father. The right of some such Mothers could be in jeopardy if it were left to the Will of deceased son.

            ٱلسُّدُسُ It is definite ordinal number, meaning "the one-sixth". This is the delayed subject of the nominal sentence.

            مِمَّا- It is a Prepositional Phrase comprising of preposition and its object is Relative pronoun with "ن" having been assimilated. It relates to the preceding subject of the sentence; "one-sixth of that which"

            تَرَكَ. It is verbal sentence Perfect Verb, third person; singular; Masculine, subject pronoun hidden with elided Object linking to the Relative Pronoun. It means that One-Sixth is drawn from the heritage which he has left behind.

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              ... تَرَكَ ...The subject is obviously the deceased father.

              تَرَكَ is the deceased son. ...
              ... that the deceased has also left a son.

              peace, to interpret as "son" you're ascribing as pagans not ruling out daughters

              6100 and attribute they of to him sons and daughters in other than knowledge
              6101 originator the skies and the land how being to him walad (male/female)

              5319-20 l-lata (the idol/goddess) wal-uzā wamanata

              لِأَبَوَيْهِ ... the person who has died leaving behind heritage and bereaved parents and a son. ...

              تَرَكَ. ... It means that One-Sixth is drawn from the heritage which he has left behind.

              no, not "he has left" and their spouses where not other men laugh

              411 so for them (f/pl.) third dual (2/3) what تَرَكَ "left"
              412 and for you half what تَرَكَ "left" spouses yours

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                peace, to interpret as "son" you're ascribing as pagans not ruling out daughters

                6100 and attribute they of to him sons and daughters in other than knowledge
                6101 originator the skies and the land how being to him walad (male/female)

                5319-20 l-lata (the idol/goddess) wal-uzā wamanata

                no, not "he has left" and their spouses where not other men laugh

                411 so for them (f/pl.) third dual (2/3) what تَرَكَ "left"
                412 and for you half what تَرَكَ "left" spouses yours

                تَرَكَ It is not a noun but a verbal sentence. Verb has the subject. It is not verbal noun تَرْك

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                  تَرَكَ It is not a noun but a verbal sentence. Verb has the subject. It is not verbal noun تَرْك

                  are these not the same word?

                  47 to the menfolk share from what تَرَكَ left the parents
                  and for the womenfolk share from what تَرَكَ left the parents

                  411 third dual (2/3) what تَرَكَ left
                  the sixth from what تَرَكَ left

                  412 half what تَرَكَ left spouses yours

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                    are these not the same word?

                    47 to the menfolk share from what تَرَكَ left the parents
                    and for the womenfolk share from what تَرَكَ left the parents

                    411 third dual (2/3) what تَرَكَ left
                    the sixth from what تَرَكَ left

                    412 half what تَرَكَ left spouses yours

                    47 تَرَكَ ٱلْوَٟلِدَانِ وَٱلۡأَقْرَبُونَ Subject of the verb is mentioned.

                    411 تَرَكَ Subject is not mentioned. It is inherent in it. Third person singular masculine.

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                      يُوصِيكُـمُ ٱللَّهُ فِـىٓ أَوْلَٟدِكُمْ

                      For whom is the pronoun referent? Obviously the parents which is obvious by Aulaad.

                      What normally people seldom care is to determine the sentence by structure and meaning.

                      Similarly little care is taken to determine the function of conjunction Waw.

                      وَلِأَبَوَيْهِ Waw conjuncts to which preceding element?

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                        411 تَرَكَ Subject is not mentioned. It is inherent in it. Third person singular masculine.

                        يُوصِيكُـمُ ٱللَّهُ فِـىٓ أَوْلَٟدِكُمْ

                        For whom is the pronoun referent? Obviously the parents which is obvious by Aulaad.

                        care to give us distributions if woman died? (36 gold coins)

                        A. case if her awlādikum are 3 sons

                        B. case if her awlādikum are 3 daughters

                        likewise her parents and husband are present

                        https//www.academia.edu/39919602/Quran_Inheritance

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                          care to give us distributions if woman died? (360 gold coins)

                          if her awlādikum are 3 daughters and 1 son

                          if her awlādikum are 1 daughter and 3 sons

                          likewise her parents and husband are present

                          https//www.academia.edu/39919602/Quran_Inheritance

                          First is to understand what is stated in the original text.
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                          It is 26. Inheritance from deceased parents to offspring Allah the Exalted relates the discourse of Inheritance to the Offspring (children) of the parents. It is specific parents to offspring and not vice versa.

                          It is not about inheritance for the parents. That is covered by another clause conjunct,

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                            First is to understand what is stated in the original text.
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                            It is 26. Inheritance from deceased parents to offspring Allah the Exalted relates the discourse of Inheritance to the Offspring (children) of the parents. It is specific parents to offspring and not vice versa.

                            It is not about inheritance for the parents. That is covered by another clause conjunct,

                            we know exactly what is says -- can you distribute it is basic math? if woman died? (36 gold coins)

                            A. case if her awlādikum are 3 sons

                            B. case if her awlādikum are 3 daughters

                            likewise her parents and husband are present

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                              we know exactly what is says -- can you distribute it is basic math? if woman died? (36 gold coins)

                              A. case if her awlādikum are 3 sons

                              B. case if her awlādikum are 3 daughters

                              likewise her parents and husband are present

                              In both cases two third inheritance is their share with sharing formula of equivalent of share of two females is for a male.

                              The remaining one third according to the bequeath of the deceased made for parents and near-ones.

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                                1. The Man-dominance notion engulfing the intellect quite often blurs the sight to even watch the words of the text. "Reading" signifies the process of identifying the characters and words, and their relationships to understand the meanings in written text. The object of reading is to reduce the spread text to a "focal-gathered spot" yielding "thought-perception" infolded therein. Arabic is the Mother of Languages and its words are mostly picturesque depicting that which needs to be defined in other languages. The word for reading a written text in Arabic are made from Root ق ر ء which signifies gathering a thing at one point, thus changing the spread position of a thing into a collective unit. It is for this reason that we need first to understand Arabic to enable ourselves to "read" its text.

                                2. The above sentence is an Inverted Nominal Sentence. The natural ordering in a nominal sentence is for the topic to be first and the comment to be second. Subject is the entity about which its predicate (خبر) is enunciation or announcement. But the grammarians say that this structure may be inverted to achieve rhetorical benefit; and that there are a few situations in which inverting the structure is prohibited, and there are others in which inverting the structure actually becomes mandatory. One such reason for mandatory inversion is when the topic has a pronoun that refers to the comment (or part of it). Obviously, it is the intent of communication that necessitates the mandatory inversion.

                                3. The delayed topic/subject (مبتدأ مؤخر) of sentence is مِثْلُ which is otherwise an indefinite noun. As a rule, the subject is a definite noun. However it can be the subject if it is somewhat specific either by adjective or being possessive phrase as is the case here. Subject has two successive phrases مِثْلُ حَظِّ ٱلۡأُنْثَيَيْـنِ rendering it somewhat specific; meaning "the equivalence of allocation of two females".

                                4. The noun مِثْلُ means similar to, like that, comparable to, equal to, parallel to, analogous, equivalent to. Thus it falls in the semantic domain of comparative evaluation. This reveals why it was mandatory to invert the organization of sentence to rheme-theme. The profiled item as subject is grammatically more prominent one of the items that are compared.

                                5. The first construct noun/verbal noun حَظِّ stems from Root ح ظ ظ which signifies allocation, quota, allowance, fortune; and bestow upon, confer upon considerably; thereby it is said so and so gained fortune from so and so and he is happy, fortunate, lucky.

                                6. The possessive noun ٱلۡأُنْثَيَيْـنِ is a gender noun meaning two females stemming from Root ء ن ث which signifies feminine gender of an object; biological and grammatical gender are the same.

                                7. It is thus evident that the Subject of sentence is not the two females but it is the equivalence of allocation - their fortune. While translating it in target language it must be retained as Subject, failing which the tone of source text will be compromised.

                                8. The Predicate of the sentence is elided since it is explicit from the Prepositional Phrase لِلذَّكَرِ . The predicate/خبر of a nominal sentence can be indicated through a prepositional phrase, resembling like a sentence called but it is not a sentence. The learned grammarians lay the principle that a prepositional phrase is neither the Subject nor the predicate of a nominal sentence. Therefore, a verb - verbal noun is estimated before this phrase.

                                9. Prefixed Preposition لِ in this Phrase is for الاختصاص i.e. specifying something exclusively laid, attributed to, right for, meant for its object Noun the male. Thereby, the predicate means that the subject shall become the measure - analogous (مَثيلُ-مُمَاثِل نَظِيرُ) for the male.

                                10. مِثْلُ حَظِّ ٱلۡأُنْثَيَيْـنِ The definite article prefixed to both the nouns ٱلۡأُنْثَيَيْـنِ and لِلذَّكَرِ indicates the presence of two daughters and one son in the offspring of the deceased. Since it is dependent clause of the topic sentence, thereby, the group amongst whom the equation is prescribed is elided فِـىٓ أَوْلَٟدِكُمْ "in your children".

                                11. The allocation-formula in such ground reality - cases of grouped offspring is given. The allocation for two females is declared the standard measure; the fortune-share in the wealth about to be allocated for offspring will be distributed amongst them in the ration equal the fortune of two females (two unit shares) will form the measure for the male (two unit shares). Thereby, what is allocated for the two females/daughters in the Estate will be divided in four equal parts if there are two daughters and one son; one each for a daughter and two for the son. Like wise, if there is one daughter and two sons, the allocation will be divided in five equal parts; and so on.

                                12. It is thus evident that the daughters and not the son is the focus around which the discourse of inheritance revolves. A rule or principle is laid down that the equivalent of allocation for the two females shall be the measure for the Male and also the respective fortune in the allocation in the ratio of one to two shares. Thereby, entire أَوْلَٟدِ Offspring are covered irrespective of their number and composition. But this sentence does not indicate the part of wealth allocated for two females. It is mentioned in the following dependent sentence conjunct with preceding sentence by particle "fa" which signifies sequence, cause and effect.

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                                  ^^^ why you wrote all that there's like 1000 contradictions?

                                  In both cases two third inheritance is their share with sharing formula of equivalent of share of two females is for a male.

                                  411 to the male similitude apportion the females two (applies exactly two females!)
                                  e.g., cannot use above to solve 1 male and 1 female since TWO need to be present!

                                  If 3+ daughters next sentence kicks in
                                  so if are (f/pl.) womenfolk above two so for them (f/pl.) third dual (2/3) what left

                                  If one (daughter) next sentence kicks in
                                  and if be she one (f) so for her the half (1/2)

                                  likewise any lone heir/s e.g., sons or daughters inherit everything!

                                  example case woman (108 gold coins inheritance)

                                  her awlādikum
                                  1 son from 1st marriage
                                  2 daughters 2nd marriage
                                  1 adopted orphan girl heir (she raised her since baby)

                                  husband 3rd marriage
                                  parents are still alive

                                  mother 1/6 (fixed) "from what" left (1081/6 = 18 gold coins)
                                  father 1/6 (fixed) "from what" left (108
                                  1/6 = 18 gold coins)
                                  husband 1/4 (fixed) "from what" left (108*1/4 = 27 gold coins)

                                  108 - (18+18+27) = 45 coins what left distributed to her awlādikum

                                  3 girls (variable) "what" left 45*2/3 = 30 coins (10 for each girl)
                                  1 son gets the remaining = 15 gold coins (1.5x amount each girl)

                                  in cases of 1 female and 1 male (or any 11 ratio) they share equally

                                  https//www.academia.edu/39919602/Quran_Inheritance

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                                    ^^^ why you wrote all that there's like 1000 contradictions?

                                    411 to the male similitude apportion the females two (applies exactly two females!)
                                    e.g., cannot use above to solve 1 male and 1 female since TWO need to be present!

                                    If 3+ daughters next sentence kicks in
                                    so if are (f/pl.) womenfolk above two so for them (f/pl.) third dual (2/3) what left

                                    If one (daughter) next sentence kicks in
                                    and if be she one (f) so for her the half (1/2)

                                    It has absolutely no relevance to what is said in Qur'an.

                                    likewise any lone heir/s e.g., sons or daughters inherit everything!

                                    example case woman (108 gold coins inheritance)

                                    her awlādikum
                                    1 son from 1st marriage
                                    2 daughters 2nd marriage
                                    1 adopted orphan girl heir (she raised her since baby)

                                    husband 3rd marriage
                                    parents are still alive

                                    mother 1/6 (fixed) "from what" left (1081/6 = 18 gold coins)
                                    father 1/6 (fixed) "from what" left (108
                                    1/6 = 18 gold coins)
                                    husband 1/4 (fixed) "from what" left (108*1/4 = 27 gold coins)

                                    108 - (18+18+27) = 45 coins what left distributed to her awlādikum

                                    3 girls (variable) "what" left 45*2/3 = 30 coins (10 for each girl)
                                    1 son gets the remaining = 15 gold coins (1.5x amount each girl)

                                    in cases of 1 female and 1 male (or any 11 ratio) they share equally

                                    https//www.academia.edu/39919602/Quran_Inheritance

                                    It has absolutely no relevance to what is said in Qur'an.

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                                      It has absolutely no relevance to what is said in Qur'an.

                                      why not solve it instead of parroting 1300+ year old contradictions? ZERO value to this thread

                                      distribute 24 gold coins mother, wife, two daughters

                                      missionaries will tear you apart with 1000 other cases

                                      https//www.academia.edu/39919602/Quran_Inheritance

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                                        why not solve it instead of parroting 1300+ year old contradictions? ZERO value to this thread

                                        distribute 24 gold coins mother, wife, two daughters

                                        missionaries will tear you apart with 1000 other cases

                                        https//www.academia.edu/39919602/Quran_Inheritance

                                        Rules are laid down with reference to the deceased and the mourners. Each is a different case. The process starts even before the actual death of an individual.

                                        The law of inheritance prescribed for Mankind and made obligatory upon the Believers is based upon the Testate succession and the Mandatory allocations. It is made incumbent upon the believers to make a bequeath in favour of their parents and relatively near relatives. A detailed procedure is laid down for bequeathing and for its verification after the death of concerned person. It can be modified in case there is patent tilt or injustice in the bequeath.

                                        Allah the Exalted has specifically covered such situations which are pregnant for abuse of man-dominance and injustice. In such situations, Allah the Exalted has exercised the Authority and Will to demarcate certain parts of the Inheritance, and permanently allocating it to specific relatives in preference to others. The old simple method of dividing into equal shares is adopted like equal parts into which a company's capital is divided these days. The unique feature of law of inheritance promulgated in Grand Qur’ān is that Mankind's ever cherished notion of absolute preference to male offspring is inverted by declaring daughter/s, not son/s, the focus and theme of Inheritance.

                                        Allah the Exalted has allocated inalienable shares for the bereaved relatives in the most simple method by categorizing the deceased in three mutually exclusive types

                                        (i) Parents (Biological father and mother) leaving behind one daughter, or two daughters and son, or many daughters, daughter and son/sons, or more than one son. Parents leaving behind only one son are not in this category.

                                        (ii) Deceased leaving behind alive parents, both mother and father; one son and spouse (wife/wives or husband). Or deceased leaving behind only parents (father and mother) and spouse, but without one son to grieve.

                                        (iii) Deceased (man or woman) leaving behind only single alive parent or no parent, and no spouse, but leaving one son to grieve him. Or deceased leaving behind only single alive parent or no parent, no spouse, no son but leaving behind to grieve him one sister, or two sisters, or sister/s and brothers.

                                        All the three deceased are distinct and exclude one and another. We will not find any other type of deceased in the world.

                                        WHY TO OVERLOOK BASICS OF LAW OF INHERITANCE?

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                                          Noon_waalqalami
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                                          ^^^ why not say that you simply don't know how to solve a simple case?
                                          simple question you too proud to admit you don't know where to start?

                                          distribute 24 gold coins mother, wife, two daughters

                                          if a family came to you husband suddenly past in his sleep, how would allocate 24 gold coins?
                                          remember it's a HUGE sin to lie about what the Almighty said to allocate, so go ahead tell us?

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