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    #774

    Share of mother is mentioned in the Ayah if you wish to see. What is fun in such gimmicks!

    Define the dead and the mourners. The inheritance varies by situation.

    what is not clear? man died left mourners mother and sister

    to spoon-feed you a hint exactly same as mother and brother

    are you going to answer or keep spamming? need more hints?

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      what is not clear? man died left mourners mother and sister

      to spoon-feed you a hint exactly same as mother and brother

      are you going to answer or keep spamming? need more hints?

      The dead has only mother and a sister. No surviving wife, no child, no father. He is termed https//haqeeqat.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.%20Tabweeb/00090.%20a%20Kull%20Kaaf%20Laam%20Laam/12.gif

      https//haqeeqat.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/004.%20An%20Nisa/4.11r.gif

      However, if brothers and sisters were surviving for him (the deceased), then, the One-Sixth shall be the share apportioned for his Mother.

      يَسْتَفْتُونَكَ قُلِ ٱللَّهُ يُفْتِيكُـمْ فِـى ٱلْـكَلَٟلَةِۚ

      They seek that you the Messenger give them the confirmation- verdict at your own. You tell them; " Allah the Exalted gives you the verdict in the situation regards a person being all by himself - bachelor-without bereaved spouse, and survived by a singular Parent, either Mother or Father.

      آپ(ﷺ)سے یہ لوگ آپ کافتویٰ لینے کے خواہش مند ہیں۔آپ(ﷺ) ارشادفرمائیں "میں نہیں،اللہ تعالیٰ تم لوگوں کو ایسےمورث مرد یا عورت کے بارے فتویٰ دیتے ہیں جوبغیر بیوی یا بغیر خاوندکے موجود ہونے ،اور والدین میں سے ایک زندہ ہونے کی حالت میں ترکہ چھوڑ گیا ہے

      Root ف ت ى

      إِنِ ٱمْـرُؤٌا۟ هَلَكَ لَيْسَ لَـهُۥ وَلَـدٚ

      In case he was such a person who died in condition that a son was not heir for him;

      اگر ایسا شخص (قبل ازیں بیان کردہ کلالہ سے مختلف)وہ ہے ،جس کاایک بیٹا بھی اس کا وارث بننے کے لئے موجود نہیں ہے؛

      وَلَهُۥٓ أُخْتٚ فَلَـهَا نِصْفُ مَا تَرَكَۚ

      But a sister survives for him, thereat, half of that which he has left shall be allocated for her.
      اور ایک بہن اس کا سوگ منانے کے لئے موجود ہے تو اس صورت میں اس ترکے کے نصف پر اس (بہن)کا استحقاق اللہ تعالیٰ کی جانب سے بطور فریضہ مقرر کیا گیا ہے جو وہ چھوڑگیا/گئی ہے

      m. In case the death expecting Man in state of Kalala bachelor-spouseless and a single parent surviving but is bereaved not by a son, the one half of inheritance is allocated to a single surviving sister; similarly if she died in such state her surviving brother will get half of her wealth. And if his two sisters are surviving their share will be two-thirds of inheritance. If siblings comprise brothers and sisters the two-thirds will be shared by them all according to the principle of semblance of two feminine shares allocated to a male.

      Rest is according to the bequeath of the dead.
      72. The Parts of the Inheritance apportioned by Allah the Exalted are un-alterable under all circumstances. The allocations made in the Will shall sustain binding legality for the remaining part of inheritance. However, a correction-modification can be made if unjustified inclination or evident injustice was made by the Testator.

      https//haqeeqat.pk/Economics-Inheritance.htm

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        #776

        The dead has only mother and a sister.

        answer the question, how much to each?

        mother = ?
        sister = ?

        you cannot right? so you keep parroting!

        https//youtu.be/LwBGAu7SDOY

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          #777

          answer the question, how much to each?

          mother = ?
          sister = ?

          you cannot right? so you keep parroting!

          https//youtu.be/LwBGAu7SDOY

          You are certainly not blind, feigning blind is something different. Exact ayah and exact allocation is mentioned. Why are you playing dirty?

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            #778

            You are certainly not blind, feigning blind is something different. Exact ayah and exact allocation is mentioned. Why are you playing dirty?

            why don't you answer the simple question?

            why hard for you to post mother gets 1/x sister gets 1/y?

            it is you who is playing dumb, dirty, and cowardly too!

            we can all understand the parrot has more intelligence!

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              #779

              why don't you answer the simple question?

              why hard for you to post mother gets 1/x sister gets 1/y?

              it is you who is playing dumb, dirty, and cowardly too!

              we can all understand the parrot has more intelligence!

              What is it?

              اگر ایسا شخص (قبل ازیں بیان کردہ کلالہ سے مختلف)وہ ہے ،جس کاایک بیٹا بھی اس کا وارث بننے کے لئے موجود نہیں ہے؛

              وَلَهُۥٓ أُخْتٚ فَلَـهَا نِصْفُ مَا تَرَكَۚ

              But a sister survives for him, thereat, half of that which he has left shall be allocated for her.
              اور ایک بہن اس کا سوگ منانے کے لئے موجود ہے تو اس صورت میں اس ترکے کے نصف پر اس (بہن)کا استحقاق اللہ تعالیٰ کی جانب سے بطور فریضہ مقرر کیا گیا ہے جو وہ چھوڑگیا/گئی ہے

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                What is it?

                اگر ایسا شخص (قبل ازیں بیان کردہ کلالہ سے مختلف)وہ ہے ،جس کاایک بیٹا بھی اس کا وارث بننے کے لئے موجود نہیں ہے؛

                وَلَهُۥٓ أُخْتٚ فَلَـهَا نِصْفُ مَا تَرَكَۚ

                But a sister survives for him, thereat, half of that which he has left shall be allocated for her.
                اور ایک بہن اس کا سوگ منانے کے لئے موجود ہے تو اس صورت میں اس ترکے کے نصف پر اس (بہن)کا استحقاق اللہ تعالیٰ کی جانب سے بطور فریضہ مقرر کیا گیا ہے جو وہ چھوڑگیا/گئی ہے

                you saying this case sister gets 1/2 ?
                and mother gets how much exactly ?

                to see try three sisters and mother ?
                hint you cannot solve two unknowns!

                btw, why post stuff you cannot defend risk burning? 410

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                  #781

                  you saying this case sister gets 1/2 ?
                  and mother gets how much exactly ?

                  to see try three sisters and mother ?
                  hint you cannot solve two unknowns!

                  btw, why post stuff you cannot defend risk burning? 410

                  For each ground situation mandatory share is prescribed/ordained as https//haqeeqat.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/004.%20An%20Nisa/temp%2014%20%204.11b.gif and وَصِيَّةٙ مِّنَ ٱللَّهِ
                  Remaining is according to the https//haqeeqat.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Tabweeb%20Part%202/001.%20Roots%20originating%20in%20Surat%20002/2.131/2.gif The Bequest by the death expecting Person; leaving behind worldly wealth, subsequent to his death, is partially modified and superseded by Allah the Exalted by apportioning certain part of his wealth; inalienably assigning it to certain Survivors. As for the remaining part of wealth, the Will can also be modified to make corrections for visible tilt and injustice by the Testator. In case he died a sudden death without leaving the Will, it is for surviving kin of just repute to administer justice regarding the part of wealth other than inalienably apportioned by Allah the Exalted

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                    For each ground situation mandatory share is prescribed/ordained

                    you keep posting not answering

                    ? nine sisters (412 or 4176)
                    ? mother

                    https//sunnah.com/tirmidhi2097
                    Jabir bin 'Abdullah said
                    "I was ill, so the Messenger of Allah(S.A.W)came to visit me and found me unconscious. He came walking while Abu Bakr and 'Umar were with him. The Messenger of Allah(S.A.W) performed Wudu, then poured the remaining water on me, so I came to my senses. I said 'O Messenger of Allah(S.A.W)! how shall I dispose of my wealth?' - or - 'What shall I do with my wealth?' He did not reply anything to me" -and he had nine sisters- "until the Ayah about the inheritance was revealed they ask you for a legal verdict. Say "Allah directs (thus) about Al-Kalalah." Jabir said "It was revealed regarding me."

                    https//sunnah.com/tirmidhi2096
                    Jabir bin 'Abdullah said
                    "The Messenger of Allah(S.A.W) came to visit me while I was ill at Banu Salamah. I said 'O Prophet of Allah(S.A.W)! How shall I divide my wealth among my children?' But he did not say anything to me, until the following was revealed Allah commands you regarding your children's (inheritance) to the male, a portion equal to that of two females."

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                      you keep posting not answering

                      ? nine sisters (412 or 4176)
                      ? mother

                      https//sunnah.com/tirmidhi2097
                      Jabir bin 'Abdullah said
                      "I was ill, so the Messenger of Allah(S.A.W)came to visit me and found me unconscious. He came walking while Abu Bakr and 'Umar were with him. The Messenger of Allah(S.A.W) performed Wudu, then poured the remaining water on me, so I came to my senses. I said 'O Messenger of Allah(S.A.W)! how shall I dispose of my wealth?' - or - 'What shall I do with my wealth?' He did not reply anything to me" -and he had nine sisters- "until the Ayah about the inheritance was revealed they ask you for a legal verdict. Say "Allah directs (thus) about Al-Kalalah." Jabir said "It was revealed regarding me."

                      https//sunnah.com/tirmidhi2096
                      Jabir bin 'Abdullah said
                      "The Messenger of Allah(S.A.W) came to visit me while I was ill at Banu Salamah. I said 'O Prophet of Allah(S.A.W)! How shall I divide my wealth among my children?' But he did not say anything to me, until the following was revealed Allah commands you regarding your children's (inheritance) to the male, a portion equal to that of two females."

                      If this is one case
                      ? nine sisters (412 or 4176)
                      ? mother

                      Both fall in the category of parent and near ones for whom otherwise bequest is prescribed (2180)

                      The deceased is the person defined in 4176.
                      Thereby 2/3 is inalienable share allocated by Allah swt.
                      Mother will get whatever deceased decided in bequeathed.

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                        If this is one case
                        ? nine sisters (412 or 4176)
                        ? mother

                        Both fall in the category of parent and near ones for whom otherwise bequest is prescribed (2180)

                        The deceased is the person defined in 4176.
                        Thereby 2/3 is inalienable share allocated by Allah swt.
                        Mother will get whatever deceased decided in bequeathed.

                        you committed a sin told a lie! does it say nine or exactly two?

                        411 ٱثْنَتَيْنِ ith'natayni (two females!)
                        4176 فَإِن كَانَتَا ٱثْنَتَيْنِ فَلَهُمَا ٱلثُّلُثَانِ مِمَّا تَرَكَ ۚ

                        فَإِن fa-in (so if)
                        كَانَتَا kānatā (are feminine dual)
                        ٱثْنَتَيْنِ ith'natayni (two females!)
                        فَلَهُمَا falahumā (so to them dual)
                        ٱلثُّلُثَانِ l-thuluthāni 2/3 (1/3 each)

                        btw, he suddenly fell off his camel (no will)
                        hint no father, mother is variable (this case)

                        consider repenting retract everything you ever wrote on topic perhaps you'll be forgiven

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                          you committed a sin told a lie! does it say nine or exactly two?

                          411 ٱثْنَتَيْنِ ith'natayni (two females!)
                          4176 فَإِن كَانَتَا ٱثْنَتَيْنِ فَلَهُمَا ٱلثُّلُثَانِ مِمَّا تَرَكَ ۚ

                          فَإِن fa-in (so if)
                          كَانَتَا kānatā (are feminine dual)
                          ٱثْنَتَيْنِ ith'natayni (two females!)
                          فَلَهُمَا falahumā (so to them dual)
                          ٱلثُّلُثَانِ l-thuluthāni 2/3 (1/3 each)

                          btw, he suddenly fell off his camel (no will)
                          hint no father, mother is variable (this case)

                          consider repenting retract everything you ever wrote on topic perhaps you'll be forgiven

                          The maximum allocation by Allah swt is 2/3rd of inheritance. If died a sudden death, all are not dead. It will be decided by the family/tribe.

                          There was no need of saying 7 or nine.
                          You naively "abrogate" the basic rule and injunction in 2180 and also the verdict in 433.

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                            The maximum allocation by Allah swt is 2/3rd of inheritance. If died a sudden death, all are not dead. It will be decided by the family/tribe.

                            There was no need of saying 7 or nine.
                            You naively "abrogate" the basic rule and injunction in 2180 and also the verdict in 433.

                            Do you find difference or understand what is the difference

                            فَإِن كُنَّ نِسَآءٙ فَوْقَ ٱثْنَتَيْـنِ فَلَـهُنَّ ثُلُثَا مَا تَرَكَۖ

                            فَإِن كَانَتَا ٱثْنَتَيْـنِ فَلَهُمَا ٱلثُّلُثَانِ مِمَّا تَرَكَۚ

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                              The maximum allocation by Allah swt is 2/3rd of inheritance. If died a sudden death, all are not dead. It will be decided by the family/tribe.

                              There was no need of saying 7 or nine.
                              You naively "abrogate" the basic rule and injunction in 2180 and also the verdict in 433.

                              making up stuff digging yourself in the fire and spreading more lies!
                              people die at all ages in accidents, bed, battle, drowning, murder, etc.
                              and no, not up to you and tribe who cannot read to steal their wealth

                              https//sunnah.com/bulugh/7/223
                              Narrated Sa'd bin Abi Waqqas (RA)
                              I said, "O Allah's Messenger, I have wealth and no one to inherit from me except my one daughter. Shall I give two-thirds of my property as Sadaqah?" He replied, "No." I said, "Shall I give half of it as Sadaqah?" He replied, "No." I said, "Shall I give a third of it as Sadaqah?" He replied, "You may give a third as Sadaqah, which is still a lot. To leave your heirs rich is better than to leave them poor and begging from people." .

                              Do you find difference or understand what is the difference

                              فَإِن كُنَّ نِسَآءٙ فَوْقَ ٱثْنَتَيْـنِ فَلَـهُنَّ ثُلُثَا مَا تَرَكَۖ

                              فَإِن كَانَتَا ٱثْنَتَيْـنِ فَلَهُمَا ٱلثُّلُثَانِ مِمَّا تَرَكَۚ

                              yes, unlike you who missed “duals” and 2 means exactly 2 NOT > 2 (3+)

                              you obviously are oblivious and cannot read, ask nicely to show you?

                              ? sisters (2+)
                              ? mother (variable, no father)
                              OR
                              ? father (same as to mother)

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                                Do you find difference or understand what is the difference

                                فَإِن كُنَّ نِسَآءٙ فَوْقَ ٱثْنَتَيْـنِ فَلَـهُنَّ ثُلُثَا مَا تَرَكَۖ

                                فَإِن كَانَتَا ٱثْنَتَيْـنِ فَلَهُمَا ٱلثُّلُثَانِ مِمَّا تَرَكَۚ

                                What are the differences in these two sentences?

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                                  What are the differences in these two sentences?

                                  first we have to establish definition of "two" or if it also means "nine"

                                  according to your tribe of nineteen morons (masculine) تِسْعةَ عَشرَ بليداً

                                  ? sisters (2+)
                                  ? mother (variable, no father)
                                  OR
                                  ? father (same as to mother)

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                                    first we have to establish definition of "two" or if it also means "nine"

                                    according to your tribe of nineteen morons (masculine) تِسْعةَ عَشرَ بليداً

                                    ? sisters (2+)
                                    ? mother (variable, no father)
                                    OR
                                    ? father (same as to mother)

                                    First thing is to know how to read a book. Mere words do not constitute the meanings of tect. Meanings are much larger than the sum total of meanings of individual words.

                                    فَإِن كُنَّ نِسَآءٙ فَوْقَ ٱثْنَتَيْـنِ فَلَـهُنَّ ثُلُثَا مَا تَرَكَۖ

                                    What for is particle Fa? What is فَوْقَ ٱثْنَتَيْـنِ for; what is its function/role? What is كُنَّ ? Is it a single word or more than that? If two whom the pronoun refers?
                                    Unless you try to understand reading Arabic text all conclusions are erroneous and fallacious.

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                                      First thing is to know how to read a book.

                                      no, you embarrassed yourself and confused two with nine
                                      before alphabet, we need to learn numbers boys and girls

                                      4176 ithnatayni (two females!) NOT nine!

                                      you avoid answering? open book, call friend, google?
                                      what’s the issue, you cannot solve a basic question?

                                      ? sisters (2+)
                                      ? mother (variable, no father)
                                      OR
                                      ? father (same as to mother)

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                                        no, you embarrassed yourself and confused two with nine
                                        before alphabet, we need to learn numbers boys and girls

                                        4176 ithnatayni (two females!) NOT nine!

                                        you avoid answering? open book, call friend, google?
                                        what’s the issue, you cannot solve a basic question?

                                        ? sisters (2+)
                                        ? mother (variable, no father)
                                        OR

                                        ? father (same as to mother)

                                        The point has earlier been told and settled about two females or more their share is 2/3. There was no need of mentioning separately for 3 feminine, 4 feminine, five feminine, six feminine or 7 to-----numbers. You are just trying to play games.

                                        What is "variable" and where is this word in the whole of inheritance Ayahs?

                                        Do you think it is NOT part of instructions on inheritance to keep repeating figure gimmics?

                                        https//haqeeqat.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/temp%2002%20%202.180a.gif
                                        The Oral Bequest in favour of the Mother and Father and the relatively Near-Relatives in accordance with the prevalent well known norms has been prescribed-decreed upon you people. This Oral Bequest is to be bequeathed at the point in time when natural death has approached someone of you if he is leaving behind worldly wealth —
                                        https//haqeeqat.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/temp%2002%20%202.180b.gif
                                        The Oral Bequest is mandatory-incumbent upon those who sincerely endeavour to attain salvation.

                                        You also purposely keep your eyes closed to see this laid down rule

                                        https//haqeeqat.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/004.%20An%20Nisa/temp%2014%20%204.033c.gif
                                        Know it Our Majesty have declared kinsfolk, siblings and under-patronage persons; in order of relative nearness, as heirs for every deceased out of that heritage which the Parents (Mother and Father) and the Nearer-Relatives have left behind.

                                        Plural noun means minimum three have stakes in the inheritance for every deceased.

                                        Please my advise is first learn reading Arabic text.

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                                          Mazhar link=topic=9604035.msg439770#msg439770 date=1668284357]
                                          The point has earlier been told and settled about two females or more their share is 2/3. There was no need of mentioning separately for 3 feminine, 4 feminine, five feminine, six feminine or 7 to-----numbers. You are just trying to play games.

                                          Where it says OR MORE for sisters in 4176?
                                          You continue to lie!

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