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    #770

    author=Mazhar link=topic=9604035.msg439708#msg439708 date=1667716189]
    Allah the Exalted has allocated inalienable shares for the bereaved relatives in the most simple method

    it was asked how much to sister and mother?
    you replied https//youtu.be/LwBGAu7SDOY

    can anyone else answer the simple question?
    test of basic intelligence

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      1. There can be a situation altogether different from the above. The Married Son of a surviving Mother and Father dies. His Father and Mother may or may not still be mutually husband and wife at the time of death of their son. They might have even separated during the life of their died Son. The Married Son of the Surviving Mother and Father may or may not have bereaved his own son
        https//haqeeqat.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/004.%20An%20Nisa/4.11p.gif

      Take note; One-sixth of that which he (the deceased son) has left behind is allocated separately for each of his bereaved Father and Mother. This direction is to take effect if solitary son is surviving for him (the deceased son of living parents).

      1. Please note the turn in the discourse. Here the deceased person is a married Son (or daughter) of a living Mother and Father.

      2. The other situation is that a married son died who did not have a son but his parents have survived him. For such situation it is prescribed as under
        https//haqeeqat.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/004.%20An%20Nisa/4.11q.gif
        However, if there were not a son surviving for him and his Father and Mother have inherited him, thereby, the One-Third is apportioned for his Mother.

      This is the apodosis clause comprising of an inverted nominal sentence. If the deceased man did not have a son but his parents are alive, then the one-third will stand apportioned for his mother. Allocation for the Father of the deceased is not apportioned by Allah the Exalted though his Mother and Father have both survived him while he did not have a son. It may be remembered that the Father and Mother of the deceased Man could be in a separated state-Matrimonial Bond broken, or even his Mother had become in his life the wife of another Man other than his Father. The right of some such Mothers could be in jeopardy if it were left to the Will of deceased son.

      This clause is modified if another condition was co-existing An amendment is introduced, regarding the 1/3rd Mandatory Prioritized-Set aside Share of the Mother, if the siblings of the deceased also exist. In this circumstantial change, the share apportioned for the Mother diminishes to 1/6th of the Inheritance.

      https//haqeeqat.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/004.%20An%20Nisa/4.11r.gif

      Every situation is mentioned if one has time to read the entire subject
      https//haqeeqat.pk/Economics-Inheritance.htm

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        Every situation is mentioned if one has time to read the entire subject

        how many times same simple question

        sister and mother, how much to each?

        why you keep mooing not answering simple stuff?
        parrot is more interesting rather listen watch cows

        https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMeNfVJr_hc

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          how many times same simple question

          sister and mother, how much to each?

          why you keep mooing not answering simple stuff?
          parrot is more interesting rather listen watch cows

          https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMeNfVJr_hc

          Share of mother is mentioned in the Ayah if you wish to see. What is fun in such gimmicks!

          Define the dead and the mourners. The inheritance varies by situation.

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            Share of mother is mentioned in the Ayah if you wish to see. What is fun in such gimmicks!

            Define the dead and the mourners. The inheritance varies by situation.

            what is not clear? man died left mourners mother and sister

            to spoon-feed you a hint exactly same as mother and brother

            are you going to answer or keep spamming? need more hints?

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              what is not clear? man died left mourners mother and sister

              to spoon-feed you a hint exactly same as mother and brother

              are you going to answer or keep spamming? need more hints?

              The dead has only mother and a sister. No surviving wife, no child, no father. He is termed https//haqeeqat.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.%20Tabweeb/00090.%20a%20Kull%20Kaaf%20Laam%20Laam/12.gif

              https//haqeeqat.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/004.%20An%20Nisa/4.11r.gif

              However, if brothers and sisters were surviving for him (the deceased), then, the One-Sixth shall be the share apportioned for his Mother.

              يَسْتَفْتُونَكَ قُلِ ٱللَّهُ يُفْتِيكُـمْ فِـى ٱلْـكَلَٟلَةِۚ

              They seek that you the Messenger give them the confirmation- verdict at your own. You tell them; " Allah the Exalted gives you the verdict in the situation regards a person being all by himself - bachelor-without bereaved spouse, and survived by a singular Parent, either Mother or Father.

              آپ(ﷺ)سے یہ لوگ آپ کافتویٰ لینے کے خواہش مند ہیں۔آپ(ﷺ) ارشادفرمائیں "میں نہیں،اللہ تعالیٰ تم لوگوں کو ایسےمورث مرد یا عورت کے بارے فتویٰ دیتے ہیں جوبغیر بیوی یا بغیر خاوندکے موجود ہونے ،اور والدین میں سے ایک زندہ ہونے کی حالت میں ترکہ چھوڑ گیا ہے

              Root ف ت ى

              إِنِ ٱمْـرُؤٌا۟ هَلَكَ لَيْسَ لَـهُۥ وَلَـدٚ

              In case he was such a person who died in condition that a son was not heir for him;

              اگر ایسا شخص (قبل ازیں بیان کردہ کلالہ سے مختلف)وہ ہے ،جس کاایک بیٹا بھی اس کا وارث بننے کے لئے موجود نہیں ہے؛

              وَلَهُۥٓ أُخْتٚ فَلَـهَا نِصْفُ مَا تَرَكَۚ

              But a sister survives for him, thereat, half of that which he has left shall be allocated for her.
              اور ایک بہن اس کا سوگ منانے کے لئے موجود ہے تو اس صورت میں اس ترکے کے نصف پر اس (بہن)کا استحقاق اللہ تعالیٰ کی جانب سے بطور فریضہ مقرر کیا گیا ہے جو وہ چھوڑگیا/گئی ہے

              m. In case the death expecting Man in state of Kalala bachelor-spouseless and a single parent surviving but is bereaved not by a son, the one half of inheritance is allocated to a single surviving sister; similarly if she died in such state her surviving brother will get half of her wealth. And if his two sisters are surviving their share will be two-thirds of inheritance. If siblings comprise brothers and sisters the two-thirds will be shared by them all according to the principle of semblance of two feminine shares allocated to a male.

              Rest is according to the bequeath of the dead.
              72. The Parts of the Inheritance apportioned by Allah the Exalted are un-alterable under all circumstances. The allocations made in the Will shall sustain binding legality for the remaining part of inheritance. However, a correction-modification can be made if unjustified inclination or evident injustice was made by the Testator.

              https//haqeeqat.pk/Economics-Inheritance.htm

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                #776

                The dead has only mother and a sister.

                answer the question, how much to each?

                mother = ?
                sister = ?

                you cannot right? so you keep parroting!

                https//youtu.be/LwBGAu7SDOY

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                  #777

                  answer the question, how much to each?

                  mother = ?
                  sister = ?

                  you cannot right? so you keep parroting!

                  https//youtu.be/LwBGAu7SDOY

                  You are certainly not blind, feigning blind is something different. Exact ayah and exact allocation is mentioned. Why are you playing dirty?

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                    You are certainly not blind, feigning blind is something different. Exact ayah and exact allocation is mentioned. Why are you playing dirty?

                    why don't you answer the simple question?

                    why hard for you to post mother gets 1/x sister gets 1/y?

                    it is you who is playing dumb, dirty, and cowardly too!

                    we can all understand the parrot has more intelligence!

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                      why don't you answer the simple question?

                      why hard for you to post mother gets 1/x sister gets 1/y?

                      it is you who is playing dumb, dirty, and cowardly too!

                      we can all understand the parrot has more intelligence!

                      What is it?

                      اگر ایسا شخص (قبل ازیں بیان کردہ کلالہ سے مختلف)وہ ہے ،جس کاایک بیٹا بھی اس کا وارث بننے کے لئے موجود نہیں ہے؛

                      وَلَهُۥٓ أُخْتٚ فَلَـهَا نِصْفُ مَا تَرَكَۚ

                      But a sister survives for him, thereat, half of that which he has left shall be allocated for her.
                      اور ایک بہن اس کا سوگ منانے کے لئے موجود ہے تو اس صورت میں اس ترکے کے نصف پر اس (بہن)کا استحقاق اللہ تعالیٰ کی جانب سے بطور فریضہ مقرر کیا گیا ہے جو وہ چھوڑگیا/گئی ہے

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                        What is it?

                        اگر ایسا شخص (قبل ازیں بیان کردہ کلالہ سے مختلف)وہ ہے ،جس کاایک بیٹا بھی اس کا وارث بننے کے لئے موجود نہیں ہے؛

                        وَلَهُۥٓ أُخْتٚ فَلَـهَا نِصْفُ مَا تَرَكَۚ

                        But a sister survives for him, thereat, half of that which he has left shall be allocated for her.
                        اور ایک بہن اس کا سوگ منانے کے لئے موجود ہے تو اس صورت میں اس ترکے کے نصف پر اس (بہن)کا استحقاق اللہ تعالیٰ کی جانب سے بطور فریضہ مقرر کیا گیا ہے جو وہ چھوڑگیا/گئی ہے

                        you saying this case sister gets 1/2 ?
                        and mother gets how much exactly ?

                        to see try three sisters and mother ?
                        hint you cannot solve two unknowns!

                        btw, why post stuff you cannot defend risk burning? 410

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                          you saying this case sister gets 1/2 ?
                          and mother gets how much exactly ?

                          to see try three sisters and mother ?
                          hint you cannot solve two unknowns!

                          btw, why post stuff you cannot defend risk burning? 410

                          For each ground situation mandatory share is prescribed/ordained as https//haqeeqat.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/004.%20An%20Nisa/temp%2014%20%204.11b.gif and وَصِيَّةٙ مِّنَ ٱللَّهِ
                          Remaining is according to the https//haqeeqat.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Tabweeb%20Part%202/001.%20Roots%20originating%20in%20Surat%20002/2.131/2.gif The Bequest by the death expecting Person; leaving behind worldly wealth, subsequent to his death, is partially modified and superseded by Allah the Exalted by apportioning certain part of his wealth; inalienably assigning it to certain Survivors. As for the remaining part of wealth, the Will can also be modified to make corrections for visible tilt and injustice by the Testator. In case he died a sudden death without leaving the Will, it is for surviving kin of just repute to administer justice regarding the part of wealth other than inalienably apportioned by Allah the Exalted

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                            For each ground situation mandatory share is prescribed/ordained

                            you keep posting not answering

                            ? nine sisters (412 or 4176)
                            ? mother

                            https//sunnah.com/tirmidhi2097
                            Jabir bin 'Abdullah said
                            "I was ill, so the Messenger of Allah(S.A.W)came to visit me and found me unconscious. He came walking while Abu Bakr and 'Umar were with him. The Messenger of Allah(S.A.W) performed Wudu, then poured the remaining water on me, so I came to my senses. I said 'O Messenger of Allah(S.A.W)! how shall I dispose of my wealth?' - or - 'What shall I do with my wealth?' He did not reply anything to me" -and he had nine sisters- "until the Ayah about the inheritance was revealed they ask you for a legal verdict. Say "Allah directs (thus) about Al-Kalalah." Jabir said "It was revealed regarding me."

                            https//sunnah.com/tirmidhi2096
                            Jabir bin 'Abdullah said
                            "The Messenger of Allah(S.A.W) came to visit me while I was ill at Banu Salamah. I said 'O Prophet of Allah(S.A.W)! How shall I divide my wealth among my children?' But he did not say anything to me, until the following was revealed Allah commands you regarding your children's (inheritance) to the male, a portion equal to that of two females."

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                              you keep posting not answering

                              ? nine sisters (412 or 4176)
                              ? mother

                              https//sunnah.com/tirmidhi2097
                              Jabir bin 'Abdullah said
                              "I was ill, so the Messenger of Allah(S.A.W)came to visit me and found me unconscious. He came walking while Abu Bakr and 'Umar were with him. The Messenger of Allah(S.A.W) performed Wudu, then poured the remaining water on me, so I came to my senses. I said 'O Messenger of Allah(S.A.W)! how shall I dispose of my wealth?' - or - 'What shall I do with my wealth?' He did not reply anything to me" -and he had nine sisters- "until the Ayah about the inheritance was revealed they ask you for a legal verdict. Say "Allah directs (thus) about Al-Kalalah." Jabir said "It was revealed regarding me."

                              https//sunnah.com/tirmidhi2096
                              Jabir bin 'Abdullah said
                              "The Messenger of Allah(S.A.W) came to visit me while I was ill at Banu Salamah. I said 'O Prophet of Allah(S.A.W)! How shall I divide my wealth among my children?' But he did not say anything to me, until the following was revealed Allah commands you regarding your children's (inheritance) to the male, a portion equal to that of two females."

                              If this is one case
                              ? nine sisters (412 or 4176)
                              ? mother

                              Both fall in the category of parent and near ones for whom otherwise bequest is prescribed (2180)

                              The deceased is the person defined in 4176.
                              Thereby 2/3 is inalienable share allocated by Allah swt.
                              Mother will get whatever deceased decided in bequeathed.

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                                If this is one case
                                ? nine sisters (412 or 4176)
                                ? mother

                                Both fall in the category of parent and near ones for whom otherwise bequest is prescribed (2180)

                                The deceased is the person defined in 4176.
                                Thereby 2/3 is inalienable share allocated by Allah swt.
                                Mother will get whatever deceased decided in bequeathed.

                                you committed a sin told a lie! does it say nine or exactly two?

                                411 ٱثْنَتَيْنِ ith'natayni (two females!)
                                4176 فَإِن كَانَتَا ٱثْنَتَيْنِ فَلَهُمَا ٱلثُّلُثَانِ مِمَّا تَرَكَ ۚ

                                فَإِن fa-in (so if)
                                كَانَتَا kānatā (are feminine dual)
                                ٱثْنَتَيْنِ ith'natayni (two females!)
                                فَلَهُمَا falahumā (so to them dual)
                                ٱلثُّلُثَانِ l-thuluthāni 2/3 (1/3 each)

                                btw, he suddenly fell off his camel (no will)
                                hint no father, mother is variable (this case)

                                consider repenting retract everything you ever wrote on topic perhaps you'll be forgiven

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                                  you committed a sin told a lie! does it say nine or exactly two?

                                  411 ٱثْنَتَيْنِ ith'natayni (two females!)
                                  4176 فَإِن كَانَتَا ٱثْنَتَيْنِ فَلَهُمَا ٱلثُّلُثَانِ مِمَّا تَرَكَ ۚ

                                  فَإِن fa-in (so if)
                                  كَانَتَا kānatā (are feminine dual)
                                  ٱثْنَتَيْنِ ith'natayni (two females!)
                                  فَلَهُمَا falahumā (so to them dual)
                                  ٱلثُّلُثَانِ l-thuluthāni 2/3 (1/3 each)

                                  btw, he suddenly fell off his camel (no will)
                                  hint no father, mother is variable (this case)

                                  consider repenting retract everything you ever wrote on topic perhaps you'll be forgiven

                                  The maximum allocation by Allah swt is 2/3rd of inheritance. If died a sudden death, all are not dead. It will be decided by the family/tribe.

                                  There was no need of saying 7 or nine.
                                  You naively "abrogate" the basic rule and injunction in 2180 and also the verdict in 433.

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                                    The maximum allocation by Allah swt is 2/3rd of inheritance. If died a sudden death, all are not dead. It will be decided by the family/tribe.

                                    There was no need of saying 7 or nine.
                                    You naively "abrogate" the basic rule and injunction in 2180 and also the verdict in 433.

                                    Do you find difference or understand what is the difference

                                    فَإِن كُنَّ نِسَآءٙ فَوْقَ ٱثْنَتَيْـنِ فَلَـهُنَّ ثُلُثَا مَا تَرَكَۖ

                                    فَإِن كَانَتَا ٱثْنَتَيْـنِ فَلَهُمَا ٱلثُّلُثَانِ مِمَّا تَرَكَۚ

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                                      The maximum allocation by Allah swt is 2/3rd of inheritance. If died a sudden death, all are not dead. It will be decided by the family/tribe.

                                      There was no need of saying 7 or nine.
                                      You naively "abrogate" the basic rule and injunction in 2180 and also the verdict in 433.

                                      making up stuff digging yourself in the fire and spreading more lies!
                                      people die at all ages in accidents, bed, battle, drowning, murder, etc.
                                      and no, not up to you and tribe who cannot read to steal their wealth

                                      https//sunnah.com/bulugh/7/223
                                      Narrated Sa'd bin Abi Waqqas (RA)
                                      I said, "O Allah's Messenger, I have wealth and no one to inherit from me except my one daughter. Shall I give two-thirds of my property as Sadaqah?" He replied, "No." I said, "Shall I give half of it as Sadaqah?" He replied, "No." I said, "Shall I give a third of it as Sadaqah?" He replied, "You may give a third as Sadaqah, which is still a lot. To leave your heirs rich is better than to leave them poor and begging from people." .

                                      Do you find difference or understand what is the difference

                                      فَإِن كُنَّ نِسَآءٙ فَوْقَ ٱثْنَتَيْـنِ فَلَـهُنَّ ثُلُثَا مَا تَرَكَۖ

                                      فَإِن كَانَتَا ٱثْنَتَيْـنِ فَلَهُمَا ٱلثُّلُثَانِ مِمَّا تَرَكَۚ

                                      yes, unlike you who missed “duals” and 2 means exactly 2 NOT > 2 (3+)

                                      you obviously are oblivious and cannot read, ask nicely to show you?

                                      ? sisters (2+)
                                      ? mother (variable, no father)
                                      OR
                                      ? father (same as to mother)

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                                        Do you find difference or understand what is the difference

                                        فَإِن كُنَّ نِسَآءٙ فَوْقَ ٱثْنَتَيْـنِ فَلَـهُنَّ ثُلُثَا مَا تَرَكَۖ

                                        فَإِن كَانَتَا ٱثْنَتَيْـنِ فَلَهُمَا ٱلثُّلُثَانِ مِمَّا تَرَكَۚ

                                        What are the differences in these two sentences?

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                                          What are the differences in these two sentences?

                                          first we have to establish definition of "two" or if it also means "nine"

                                          according to your tribe of nineteen morons (masculine) تِسْعةَ عَشرَ بليداً

                                          ? sisters (2+)
                                          ? mother (variable, no father)
                                          OR
                                          ? father (same as to mother)

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